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Re: Admiring Filipinos who speak English fluently
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2011, 03:41:44 PM »
 :).... hello! I just wanna share something.... yes, it may sound maarte when Flipinos speak in English especially accentuating it but, I think it would be a good practice for our children to speak in English with an accent. It will really be helpful to them because of the competitive world ahead of them. I realize that speaking in English (stresses and enunciation included) is very essential as well as an ordinary thing already. We have to be supportive, helpful and patient for them to learn.

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Re: Admiring Filipinos who speak English fluently
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2011, 03:44:27 PM »

Back to the Philippines, when I got back, I met a couple of old friends na pa-english-english pa rin with accents pa, I got turned off. Why? Kasi lahat kami Pilipino bakit naming kailangan mag english? Anak ba sila ng Americano? Nakatungtong na ba sila sa Amerika at Britanya? May Visa ba sila? Sa haba ng taon ko sa trabaho ko, it became a luxury for me to speak my language. Ka trabaho ko ibang lahi, pasahero ko iba-ibang lahi. I am thrilled to have an OFW passenger kasi sa kanila lang ako nakakapag tagalog. Then pag uwi ko sa sarili kong bansa e-englishin ako ng mga feeling sosy?

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Agree with Mommyjazz, bakit kaya may mga Pilipino na dahil nasa ibang bansa hindi na makapagsalita ng Tagalog. I watched a variety show one time and they interviewed someone residing in the US. They asked if he can still speak and understand Tagalog, the guy (teenager around 15-17of age) said, not anymore. Siyempre next question is how long he's been living in the US. You know what what his answer was? 1 YEAR! alam nyo, obvious na nainis mga host at nagcomment na lang na "ha, 1 year ka pa lang sa US, nakalimutan mo na sarili mong wika?"

Admittedly, my son speaks English. But if you ask him questions or tell him somethings in Tagalog, he can understand it. He needs to speak English kasi we are in a different country and when he goes to school, I dont want him to experience culture shock and ma-left out dahil hindi siya nakakaintindi and nakakapagsalita ng English. And we also talk to him in Tagalog kasi ayaw naman namin na mawala sa kanya yung pagiging Filipino niya. Yun nga lang, sagot niya pa rin sa'min in English. Ok sana kung lahat ng taong nasa ibang bansa e lumaki dun, kaso yung iba naman napunta lang sa ibang bansa feeling nila e super English na kahit Pilipino din naman kausap nila.

Here is UAE, sobrang daming Pilipino. Mostly, pag Pilipino makaka interact namin, we use Tagalog. Like sa mga fastfood, sa supermarket, sa salon, etc... Minsan lang nakaka fake ang features natin kaya kailangan tanungin mo muna sila ng "Kabayan?" para ma-confirm if Pilipino nga. Minsan nga lang, may mga ayaw aminin na Pilipino sila. Alam naman nilang kabayan kausap nila, todo pa rin sa English... hirap na hirap na...

English is my favorite subject when I was still studying. I was always excited pag may formal theme writing kami dati nung Highschool. Natutuwa din kasi sa'kin yung teacher ko when it comes to theme writing. With her encouragement, I joined the school organ as a writter, staff.. nakakatuwa... I can say I do well in writing sa English language, but I cannot say the same for my speaking skills. Kailangan ko ng practice and confidence para makapagsalita ng maayos.

Pero mga sis, alam nyo, meron akong favorite na magsalita ng English. Everytime na nakikita ko siya na nasa TV sa news, gustong gusto ko siyang pinapakinggan. Siyempre hindi si Sen Miriam. Ang gusto ko talaga is Si Sec. Leila de Lima (DOJ). I dont know, siguro kasi sobrang confident niya magsalita, super ok pa ang grammar... :)


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Re: Admiring Filipinos who speak English fluently
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2011, 03:51:16 PM »
kahit naman mga kano eh hindi perpekto sa kanilang grammar kahit pangunahing wika nila ang ingles. sa hanay ng trabaho ko ang dami kong nakakausap na mga kano at ganoon nga, nagkakamali din sila. pero aaminin ko na napapabilib din  ako sa mga taong matatas sa ingles at may puntong amerikano lalo na kung wala sa itsura hehe.  ;D

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Re: Admiring Filipinos who speak English fluently
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2011, 04:52:31 PM »
Yung isang friend ko graduated from UP College of Arts and Letters. Im not sure it if she took creative writing or English Studies. She is very particular with her grammar. I mean, she has to diba, kasi san napunta yung pinagaralan niya if hindi niya gagamitin  ;D

Yes, I admire Filipino who speaks fluent English pero mas hanga ako dun sa mga Pinoy na marunong paring magtagalog kahit nasa ibang bansa na, Pinoys who still teach their kids their mother tongue. Iilan nalang ang mga pinoy na laking ibang bansa na marunong parin magtagalog. I can speak the language, but I am not an English Major kaya dont expect me to write grammatically correct sentences.As long as I can express what I meant and know how to use your and you're, there and their and put apostrophes where it should be (ok I admit, mine are sometimes misplaced  ::) ) then I think, its going to be fine.
I dont even know all the Filipino words out there, English pa kaya  ;D
Really, how many of us Pinoys know the difference between nang and ng? We dont even use them properly anymore.
I just admire people who still love their language even if they can speak other tongues.
Parang off lang yung people who brag they can speak fluent English kasi they are raised in the US. Of course they should! e dun nga sila lumaki e. Wala namang Pinoy na nagmayabang na magaling managalog kasi laking Pinas sila  :P  ;D
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Re: Admiring Filipinos who speak English fluently
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2011, 05:05:04 PM »
@ ilovegabe - mas bilib ako sa mga batang laki sa France, ang galing mag-French!!!   ;D

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Re: Admiring Filipinos who speak English fluently
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2011, 07:42:07 PM »
^^ ay tama ka jan sis ilovegabe. natuwa nga ako dun sa isa kong kamag-anak. umuwi kasi sila ng pinas last month kasama yung baby niya na pinanganak sa US. 3 yrs old na sya ngayon. nakakatuwa kase yung bata kahit half american, hindi marunong mag english. PERO ang tatas magsalita ng tagalog. super cute na cute ako sa bata kasi wala sa muka niya na may lahing pinoy pero tuwid na tuwid magsalita ng filipino.

Sabi nung nanay, kaya daw tagalog ang tinuro niya habang bata pa kasi para masanay hanggang paglaki. Matututo din naman daw kasi ng english pag nag-school na at tutal dun naman lalaki yung bata at dun titira talaga. ang gusto nila, lumaki yung bata na marunong magtagalog at gustong mag tagalog.
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Re: Admiring Filipinos who speak English fluently
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2011, 09:46:27 PM »
Ai sandali, muntik ako ma-nose bleed. Well share ko lang mga experience ko. Since gradeschool kasi favorite subject ko ang english, it is also the reason why I became an school officer. Lahat din ng adviser ko major in english. I grew up with filam friends, iba iba nga lang ang kasama ko coz they never stayed here. But when they decided to take their college here, lagi ko sila kasama.

Everyday of my life when I'm with my friends ENGLISH, pag-uwi sa bahay TAGALOG. One thing I've noticed with these people/my friends, the way they communicate, their english isn't really perfect. Iba din ang written, mas complicated yun. Cause when you talk, ang kausap mo focuses on what you are talking about and not how you talk(grammar). Hindi ko naman intention na matuto at magsalita ng fluent na english na may accent pa (maarte pakinggan) pero pag ang kasama mo eh ganito, parang chickenpox, nakakahawa.

My daughter is a part indian and african, galit ang daddy niya pag puro tagalog. Funny thing is she can speak tagalog but most of the words hindi niya maintindihan (kasi ginagaya niya lang whatever she hears)pero ask mo cia kahit ano na english nakakasagot cia/naintindihan niya.

I admire people which are both good in written and communication. :) some are good with the way they write but doesn't have the confidence to stand infront of others and speak. I think its all good not to be perfect,as long as you can communicate.

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Re: Admiring Filipinos who speak English fluently
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2011, 01:45:47 AM »
We must admit, English is not our first language. It's okay to communicate in English. I personally, doesn't care about the grammar usage nor the accent. What I hate are those who bragged about being fluent in the English language but showed lapses big time!  ;)

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Re: Admiring Filipinos who speak English fluently
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2011, 08:50:32 AM »
Grabe, I think I got hooked on this topic.

quote from Yhamslove:
May mga members din pala ang SP na English Major nung college sila:

Oo nga. Minsan tuloy pinagsisisihan ko ba't dina lang ako nag masscom or english major. Siguro mas maraming opportunities for me even as a SAHM. Maybe I can raise my writing skills or get a bigger career in writing. Pero hanggang dito nalang ako.


quote from Mommy France:
kung by profession eh english teacher ka, marunong kang mag-proofread. Kasi you have to do that on a regular basis eh.

Exactly!  An elem english teacher I know for example, bragging she isn't good in filipino and can't even teach her own kids tagalog but there are lapses in her grammar like "We came back in our country" or "we migrated" when she's actually referring to "returning". Like what I mentioned, no matter how high your education is in english, without humility, you won't gain respect.


from Marimar:
There are lots of Filipinos who are good in English, but speaking is another aspect.

I once watched a TV feature on Filipinos getting interviewed for their US Visa application. They can't answer a simple question not because they can't speak english but because they lack practice. Ang advice nga doon at the end of the documentary, is to practice conversing. Mabuti nga ngayon marami nang nagsulputan ng english tutorials and classes (mostly for call center applicants). I'm also glad maramiing nabigyang trabaho because of how good we are in this language.


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sis/mareng WENDYSTAR ,. she's one of the grammarians here in our company , supeer idol!

Ma PM nga si Wendystar. One of these days I'll ask her help to edit some of my writings.

from purplemom:
nakatanggap pa nga ako ng email from the Partner correcting my grammar sa email na send ko sa kanya..he he...

Gusto ko yun. I like it when someone corrects my grammar. Kaya po kayo, if you notice a mistake on my posts, paki PM naman po ako. :)


from maarte:
pero ang alam ko, nag enroll sya sa John Robert Powers

Kung afford lang ng mga magulang ko noon, I could've asked them to enroll me there. Sana maafford namin for my kids when they're in their teens na. Not only will you learn proper english, you will also be taught on how to carry yourself, be professional and how to relate with other people. Kaya nga stand out sila kasi may "breeding" ang dating.

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humahanga ako sa ibang lahi na magaling mag tagalog.

Wow! I was impressed watching Jessica Soho's segment on Rizal Day. They featured foreigners who speak tagalog fluently. There's this Russian student in UP who took up Phil studies in Moscow and then continued his studies here. ANG GALING!!! Tagalog accent talaga.


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"keep it short and simple"

Tatandaan ko yan. So far this is the best tip I learned yesterday when I read Nuna's post.

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I think it would be a good practice for our children to speak in English with an accent. It will really be helpful to them because of the competitive world ahead of them.

Hello po and welcome to SP! It's admirable that you made your 1st post in this thread. Tama po kayo this is why at home, we always talk to our kids in english. Ang problem ko naman ngayon like some of our members here, is teaching them tagalog. I always thought it would be easy for them to learn tagalog but when they started school, english din ang language so they don't get a lot of friends elsewhere. Tagalog speaking kids would shy away from them. Now we are working on that.
Let us also teach our kids to love our own language so they won't grow up as one of those "pa sosy" who wants to be treated differently because they "feel" they're americanized.

from liams mom:
kailangan tanungin mo muna sila ng "Kabayan?" para ma-confirm if Pilipino nga

Matatawa kayo dito sa kwento ko. We were in Amsterdam and there's this Dunkin Donut lady who looks Filipino so we asked her. Tinaasan kami ng kilay as if she doesn't understand tagalog as she continued to speak in dutch. Kinulit ng kasama ko, pinapatawa niya "Uuuy, Pinay ka eh, sige na, ngiti naman diyan!" Lalong nagsimangot yung taga Dunkin. When we got our donuts and left, nagparinig yung friend ko "Hmp, ang taray naman. buti sana kung maganda siya, ang sungit, lalo tuloy siyang pumapangit!" Then the Dunkin girl shouted back at her "MAS PANGIT KA!"

from ysLim
kahit naman mga kano eh hindi perpekto sa kanilang grammar kahit pangunahing wika nila ang ingles.



That's true, my friend who married an American applied for a work in a hotel. Siya ang napili of the dozen local applicants because she passed the written and oral test in english.

from ilovegabe:
mas hanga ako dun sa mga Pinoy na marunong paring magtagalog kahit nasa ibang bansa na, Pinoys who still teach their kids their mother tongue.

That's true. My sister who's raising her kids in CA is asking me for Batibot videos so she can teach her kids tagalog. She asked her Filipino friends there who answered her "may sesame street naman bakit batibot pa?" It's sad because they associate Philippines and speaking tagalog to being poor that they want to remove it from their system.

from mami princess
Funny thing is she can speak tagalog but most of the words hindi niya maintindihan (kasi ginagaya niya lang whatever she hears)

If you want her to learn tagalog, start with tagalog TV shows for kids. Yan ang ginagawa ko sa bunso ko while for my panganay, tagalog prime time shows (huwag lang may kissing scenes) and tagalog movies.


from Errych:
What I hate are those who bragged about being fluent in the English language but showed lapses big time! 

Exactly my point. Isipin nalang po natin na nagsisimula pa lang sila mag practice and practice makes perfect.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2011, 09:17:51 AM by Mommyjazz »

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Re: Admiring Filipinos who speak English fluently
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2011, 02:05:44 PM »
@ Mommyjazz: Natawa ko dun sa Donut Story. :) As in nagpplay-out sya sa utak ko habang binabasa ko. Hehe.  ;D

I agree with sis Errych, hindi dapat ipinagmamayabang ang pagiging magaling sa English, dahil for one, it's an acquired skill, hindi porket magaling ka sa English, gifted ka na. :) Napag-aaralan naman 'yon, so everybody has potential to be good at it.



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Re: Admiring Filipinos who speak English fluently
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2011, 08:12:52 PM »
Kelangan kong mag review for IELTS, meron na pala sa thread na to  ;D

We should start a "Correct my Grammar thread". No judgement, just plain correcting grammars. No need to offend someone or be offended by someone. Game?
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Re: Admiring Filipinos who speak English fluently
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2011, 09:11:35 PM »
@ ilovegabe - I'm agree!!!!  LOL! O ayan, you can start by correcting me na! hihi!

So how do we go about this?  What's the topic for the "Correct my Grammar" thread?  Or should every topic be incorporated with a "correct my grammar" subtitle. hihi! Huwag naman baka mahiya na yung iba mag-post  ;D

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Re: Admiring Filipinos who speak English fluently
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2011, 09:33:58 AM »
Bet ko yang "Correct My Grammar Thread".

Hindi naman natin i-ju-judge yung tao pwede namang hindi mag-name drop di ba? Yung tamang use lang ng prepositions, tense kasi minsan ako rin kailangan ko pa i-google kung di ako sigurado. :)

At least dito pwede ko itanong na lang tapos pwedeng balikan.
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Re: Admiring Filipinos who speak English fluently
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2011, 12:12:51 PM »
"Correct My Grammar Thread". - sasali din ako dito hehe
Pag may tanong popost dito, tapos someone will correct ;D

Hindi rin ako magaling mag-english..
Pag gumagawa ako ng essay or kahit memo lang, mega check talaga ako kasi naka CC ang mga VP saka maga taga bangko, nakakahiya naman. Madalas hindi ako sure kaya lagi ko pinapa-check sa friends ko na magaling. Buti na lang lagi silang online :D


Hanggang ngayon nag-aaral pa din ako sa 8 Parts of Speech.
Kahit man lang sa written gumaling ako..
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Re: Admiring Filipinos who speak English fluently
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2011, 01:10:28 PM »
Gusto ko rin yan mommy ilovegabe! magiging informative lalo ang SP!

Ako rin hindi ferfect mag english. nagkakamali pa rin, nalilito rin sa proper usage ng prepositions.

Gusto ko rin dito i-share yung mga alam at nakikita kong mali sa mga posts na dapat i-correct.  ;)
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