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Re: communicating with kids in english
« Reply #120 on: February 15, 2011, 07:28:28 pm »

my hubby and I trained our daughter to speak english because according to some study conducted those kids who speak english has good adaptability and perform good in school versus those who don't. maybe this is because english is the medium of teaching use in school and most of the books used in school are written in english.
we have proven this when Chloe started schooling last year. Sobrang advance daw si Chloe according to her teacher. No problem with prepositional phrases, grammar and she even has a wide range of vocabulary. bonus na lang siguro yung accent.  :)
kahit nauubusan na ko ng english at nakakahiya na go pa rin.
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Re: communicating with kids in english
« Reply #121 on: February 16, 2011, 08:43:30 am »

my hubby and I trained our daughter to speak english because according to some study conducted those kids who speak english has good adaptability and perform good in school versus those who don't. maybe this is because english is the medium of teaching use in school and most of the books used in school are written in english.


Hi sis Errych, sounds good that your kid is doing well at school. But I have to disagree that it is because of teaching your kids to speak english. I'm sure matalino talaga yung kid mo. :)

Personally, even for someone like me na madalas mag-english dito sa SP (kasi madalas ako ma-text speak kapag tagalog gamit ko) - I think the reason people here in the Philippines say that kids who speak english are better than those who do not, coz it is not normal for us to hear a child speaking in english. Nakaka-amaze naman talaga. For those children who lives in the United States, nakakatuwa naman when your child speaks French or Italian.

Let's just think of it this way, there are 2 kids - one speaks english and one speaks tagalog as their native tounge- you can't say that the kid who speaks english is better than the kids who is more accustomed to tagalog.
Because the "tagalog" kid has 2 achievements at the same time. learning english and doing activity for the subject. At the end of the day, the "tagalog" kid is bilingual.

So doing well in school is not dependent on the language a child speaks. It is because of the child's innate talent and intelligence. Kasama na rin siyempre yung support system ng bata (parents, relatives, teachers and friends)

I am not judging parents who opt to teach their kids English rather than the national language. We have our own reasons and thats OK. [\b]
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Re: communicating with kids in english
« Reply #122 on: February 16, 2011, 08:49:37 am »

...So doing well in school is not dependent on the language a child speaks. It is because of the child's innate talent and intelligence.
I am not judging parents who opt to teach their kids English rather than the national language. We have our own reasons and thats OK. [\b]

 i agree with you mommy france. i will also train my child to speak in English pero i'll make sure na she is also capable to speak our own language. Based on our experience kasi in one of our student, Pinoy sila pero di marunong magtagalog, tuloy di niya mainintindihan Filipino subject. Ang hirap tuloy turuan.

So dapt talaga marunong ng Englisg and Tagalog habang bata pa.
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Re: communicating with kids in english
« Reply #123 on: February 17, 2011, 08:16:02 am »

I respect your opinion on this mommy france. As you have mentioned, importatnte ang support group ng bata. Intelligence if not honed pwede mauwi sa wala. Don't get me wrong for not teaching my kid to speak tagalog. I myself is not good in english but I know my child will eventually learn tagalog from those surrounding her. What I want is for my daughter to be fluent (not tagalog english) and conversational (hindi pilit) as possible. To add, my friend's sister who's in US is training his 2 year-old son to speak tagalog. He's very fluent in that. Her reason is same as mine, paglabas naman niya ng bahay for sure matutunan niya din mag english.  :)
Of course, what I hope for my daughter to be eventually is to fluent on both. And she's also studying Chinese on top of this. lol  :D tapos, siguro french naman. hehe. love love mommy france.  ;)
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Re: communicating with kids in english
« Reply #124 on: February 17, 2011, 09:01:37 am »

actually its true.  my daughter now is in 2nd grade at hirap na hirap sxa sa Filipino.  The teacher already stopped translating for them.  so marami syang hindi nasasagutan..

i have a friend who said that you can teach children to be multi lingual naman. but you have do be consistent

like if mommy will speak tagalog,then straight tagalog. hindi puwede taglish.  then if daddy will speak in english then it has to be straight english. 
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Re: communicating with kids in english
« Reply #125 on: February 17, 2011, 09:21:11 am »

Yaiks! Sige na nga, English kung English. Tagalog kung tagalog. Haha. Bilingual it is.
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Re: communicating with kids in english
« Reply #126 on: March 16, 2011, 11:49:16 am »

i am a FILIPINO teacher in an INTL School here in the Philipiines.  Sa naobserbahan ko, ang mga batang lumaki sa pure English, hirap na hirap sa Filipino( im handling Filipino for High School IV) compare sa mga batang lumaki sa Filipino language at natuto lang ng English sa school.  Hirap din sila sa entrance exam ng UP, La Salle at Ateneo (sa Filipino part, especially UP).  Kaya I recommend na teach them first their 1st language which is FILIPINO, kasi they will learn English at school. ;)
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Re: communicating with kids in english
« Reply #127 on: June 14, 2011, 12:00:31 am »

When I was still pregnant with my little girl, sabi ko sa sarili ko, palalakihin ko sya na English ang pagsasalita. I worked in a call center then, I've worked for a mag din before, and I graduated with a degree in Journalism - I saw how great of an advantage it is when someone can speak English in such a natural and confident way, especially in the Filipino corporate world.

But when I stopped working na (she was about six months then), I saw it wasn't going to work for her. Hindi dahil sa hindi niya kakayanin mag-English (kids will adapt to whatever language they're raised with anyway), kung hindi dahil hindi sya effective means of communication within a community like ours na predominantly tagalog ang salita. I've seen and heard kids who communicate in English, and while they seem impressive to some, hindi ganon ang tingin sa kanila ng kapwa nila bata. Other kids tend to feel uncomfortable around them, dahil hindi English ang means of communication nila.

I personally believe na it's much better for a child, especially from babyhood up until they start schooling, to be spoken to or taught with the vernacular language (especially if you don't intend to migrate to another country anytime soon).  Yun kasi yung time na nabu-build ng isang bata ang foundation niya for communication. My two-year old basically copies everything I say, and is very inquisitive. When she asks 'Ano 'to?', I tell her what the object is in both English and Tagalog, but she basically uses the term she finds me using more often. Like for chicken, since I say chicken more often, she never calls it manok, just chicken. She knows very basic English words, like stop, no, work, sleep, type, etc. But she also says hindi, ayaw, tulog, and uses those words appropriately too. :D Her conversations with us are also in Tagalog.

Sa akin kasi, she'll learn how to speak English when she starts studying. And she doesn't necessarily have to be raised with it to be good at it. My take: I'd rather teach her correct grammar, pronunciation, delivery, intonation, etc. when she starts schooling and takes English subjects. More on reinforcement and honing her skills lang ba. In the meantime, we can converse in both Tagalog and English, and let her be comfortable in using both. :D

To each his own lang din naman talaga yan. Depende sa kung ano sa tingin ng isang parent ang best for his or her child. We just always have to remember na what we're raising them with (language, values, ideals), is what they'll believe to be right and true for most of their life as kids. :D

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Re: communicating with kids in english
« Reply #128 on: June 14, 2011, 04:28:19 am »

mommy Errych, pareho po tayo.. ako din not that good in english, but as for me, i make sure that my Eliah understand tagalog also even we talk to her in English, other people surrounds her talks to her in tagalog, thus she has no prob in school even in tagalog or english.

Gusto ko pag 7yo na si Eliah mas prefer niya ng makipag-usap ng tagalog pero ok sa english parin para kung may kumausap sa kanya ng english sasagot din sya ng english.  ang skin lang naman di ko naman para i-konyo ang dating ng anak ko (sabi kasi ng anak ng kaybigan ko, "tita mayaman ba kayo" sabi ko, baket mo naman natanong yan?..."kasi nageenglish kayo ni Eliah"..tawa lang ako) gusto ko lang di na sya para mahirapan sa school ng english,  sa public school ko lang naman sya pagaaralin kapag kaya niya magsection 1 pero kung hindi private sya.  so far ok naman ang first day school niya.. naobserbahan ko proud sya kapag tagalog ang kausap niya sa mga classmate niya..feeling niya In sya kc kaya niya magtagalog..tapos natutuwa naman classmate niya sa kanya kapg nageenglish sya..

what is important we know our objectives why we trained our child on certain things.. out love- we never go wrong!
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Re: communicating with kids in english
« Reply #129 on: June 14, 2011, 02:57:01 pm »

@kvsmom: true, the parents/adults are impressed with our kids' manner of speech if the language is english, but for the rest of the kids who are not that well off, hala...na-o-ostracize ang anak ko. i remember there's this small girl by the fishball stand who said "ayoko na kitang friend"..as soon as baby started talking in english. of course, it might be her way of coping, kasi di nga niya maintindihan si baby...pero kahit na, nasaktan ako for him.  but when we went to my parent's plush subdivision, i didn't notice the bias nor the singling out, for the reason that all the kids there talk in english.

baby speaks some tagalog words naman, but mainly,  it's in english. as what he says to his grandpa, "baby ____, does not speak tagalog, but i understand.." ok lang muna siguro kasi i speak tagalog naman with ate, and ate speaks tagalog also. my parents speak tagalog too, but when it comes to the kids, automatic ata kami, nag-e-english?!  :o
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Re: communicating with kids in english
« Reply #130 on: June 15, 2011, 06:51:45 am »

my daughter knows how to speak English very well because she was trained baby palang siya as per SIL's recommendation para daw may edge ang anak ko. That's true, may edge nga pero nung nakikipaglaro na ang anak ako at age of three, dun dumating ang problema.

Isang araw umiiyak ang anak ko at pinsan niya (same age),.ayaw daw silang isali sa laro ng mga bata. BAKIT? Kasi di daw sila magkainitindihan ng mga kalaro nila!  :P

From then on, tinuruan ko rin siya ng Tagalog. We enrolled her to Nursery and they have Filipino subject too. Sa totoo lang, Filipino ang pinakamababa niyang subject sa first grading but then she improved!  ;D

Mas maganda bilingual!  :D
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Re: communicating with kids in english
« Reply #131 on: June 15, 2011, 07:15:53 am »

^just like you mommy, pinalaki ko na english anak ko. At 2yrs and half, i enrolled him sa brgy daycare center.kapag sa ganitong school, given na tagalog lahat ang medium pati mga classmates niya. I thought mahihirapan siya pero hindi naman.From zero tagalog word vocabulary, ngayon na 3and half sya he can converse with both language and he can read tagalog and english books also kasi familiar sya sa mga words.sya rin ang nag adjust sa mga classmates niya and he's well-loved by them. another thing is, madali sya mag catch up sa mga educational cds niya kasi he understands them.i don't need to explain all the time.hehe. Kaya sa ngayon, sa akin puro advantage pa ang nakikita ko and thankful ako na i started him with the english language.;-).
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Re: communicating with kids in english
« Reply #132 on: June 15, 2011, 04:30:59 pm »

ay naku mahihirapan yata akong sanayin sa english ang baby ko kasi madami kami sa bahay, at lahat ng bata sa loob ng bahay eh puro vernacular. bisdak kung bisdak! hehe.
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Re: communicating with kids in english
« Reply #133 on: June 15, 2011, 05:19:42 pm »

maganda nga sana na kahit paano marunong mag salita english ang baby natin, like sa akin, mga pinsan niya (anak ng ate ko laking canada so english talaga), mahirap kung hindi sila magkaintindihan, pero ang hirap din dahil kahit gustuhin ko man na turuan mag salita ng english baby ko, madalas naman na di kami magkasama dahil nasa work ako, at si yaya ang madalas kasama, sabi ko dati kay yaya, na turuan kahit simpleng english lang si baby, sabi ni yaya ok,

then one time narinig ko si yaya "look baby theres a shet" as in WHAT? Diyos ko na windang talaga ako, anong shet? naku magmumura ang baby ko, masasakal ako ng hubby ko kapag narinig si baby na nagmumura (seaman kasi) yun pala shet is cat, my gulay bisaya man gyud talaga si yaya. kaya sabi ko no need na, hindi na lang magtagalog na lang baby ko baka kung ano pa ang mabigkas ni baby ko pag nagkataon.

Ewan ko ibang bisaya din naman shet ang pagbigkas sa english ng pusa na cat, katangi-tangi ata yaya ng baby ko kaka windang
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Re: communicating with kids in english
« Reply #134 on: June 15, 2011, 05:50:08 pm »

tagalog ang medium namin right now with our 2.5 yo daughter, pero pag nag pre school na sya saka namin tuturuan mag english...also the medium of teaching should be english to para masanay sya. pero pag dating sa mga kalaro at freinds niya sa village tagalog.  ;)  para hinde sya outkast.
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