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Sleep Training
« on: May 03, 2008, 08:46:31 am »

Do you agree or not?

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Re: Sleep Training
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2008, 08:47:09 am »

And which to you prefer?

according kasi kay Rachel Waddilove,author ng The Baby Book, 2 ways you can sleep train your baby if hindi sya na sleep train aftyer birth.

1. Cold Turkey type - hayaan mo sya umiyak, max of 20 mins, until mapagod at matulog sya

2. forgot kung ano tawag - less crying naman ito, compared sa una na hayaan mo sya umiyak ng umiyak. ito, yu let the baby cry for a minute or two lang, then lapitan mo. then ganun everytime na matutulog sya hanggang masanay matulog mag-isa.

Tingin nyo, ok lang ba yung unang type ng sleep training? hindi kaya makakasama ito sa baby? kasi sabi naman ng author, hindi naman daw makakasama sa baby ang paiyakin sila ng ilang minutes.......

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Re: Sleep Training
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2008, 11:02:58 am »

making the baby cry will only make the baby gain emotional stress and fatigue.thus,making him harder to sleep soundly at night kc stressed siya.baka mag ka nightmares pa.so hele lang,o kaya good story telling,lullaby,warm bath for sure tulog si baby nyan after..baby kc yan e,hindi pa niyan kaya matulog on his own,kahit nga diba toddlers nag ta tantrum pag antok na instead na matulog mag isa?
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Re: Sleep Training
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2008, 06:57:33 pm »

I agree with young mom. Nakakaawa din kc if we let our babies cry. What we do we make a sleeping pattern that we follow every night. Around 7 pm warm punas for our baby then we change the diaper na kahit hindi pa puno. We close the light and turn on a small lampshade (yung nabibili na may mga cartoon design). Then pinapatugtugan na manin sya ng cds (bossa for babies or yung mga lullaby) then he gets to sleep kaagad. We do this everyday so pag mga 7pm inaantok na sya. It works for us i hope it will also work for you. Kc yung son ko dirediretso na ang sleep niya pag ganun we wake him up na lang para mag milk. :)
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Re: Sleep Training
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2008, 07:07:09 pm »

exactly.same here mommy cheiz,important talaga ang sleeping routine and schedule.tipong bang,when u turn off the lights at lampshade nalang yung light alam na ni baby na it's nap time na diba?basta ganung routine,wash the baby(punas lang para mapreskuhan,change diapers),storytelling,some cuddling after o kaya dede siya,then sleep time na. ;)
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2008, 12:39:05 pm »

totally agree with both of you mga sis.. hindi ko kayang tiisin ang baby ng umiyak ng umiyak parang pinupunit ang heart ko naks drama :P hindi din ako nahirapan sa pagtulog ni baby minsan nga effortless talaga kc sha na kusang pipikit kahit na binibihisan ko palang coz nadevelop na yung sleeping pattern niya.. like youngmom lilinisan ko na din c baby, new diaper, powder all over then mag-milk mya mya sleep na :D she knows its time to sleep when i switch on her lamp din. :P
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Re: Sleep Training
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2008, 03:55:04 pm »

         hello mga mommies im not against sa mga pina practice nyo in how you put your babies to sleep, but i want to share so that you could understand your child/children's behavior in what does it do sa attitude nang babies natin.

          During my student years in nursing we have a subject psychology in nursing where we studies the persons personality and behavior and tracing them back how did they got that kind of behavior when they grow up. katulad din po yan sa pag papatulog kay baby when we see then cry it almost brakes our heart as mothers so mostly what we do is kina karga natin sila kaagad right? who's guilty of this? hahaha.

           Most babies have temper tantrums when they cant find their own position of comfort when we put them to sleep so what they do is they cry. They also cry when they want something from you and they cannot get. What to do when they cry? NUMBER ONE RULE when they have temper tantrums is IGNORE THE BEHAVIOR. but not to the point where they could hurt themselves so when he/she cries just don't mind them but implementing this you could instill to them that they cannot get everything they want.

            When you let them cry it depends upon the toddlers age if they are 3 years old then you also give them a 3 minutes time to cry. Let them handle the situation sabi nga titigil din sila nang kakaiyak kapag hindi mo pinansin. when most of the time they get attention when they cry when they want something then that's how they are always going to deal with it and they will outgrown that kind of behavior.

           What are the things that you can do so that they could easily fall asleep? tama yung ibang mommies pwede ninyong punasan si baby para presko, change their diapers etc, you could also give them a back rub to make them relax. hilot hilot or himas himas nyo si baby it keeps them calm. habang naka higa si baby tabihan nyo din kanta kantahan nyo,read nang bed time stories and no TV's and radio on. or if its a lullaby na song pwede din. kc too much noise before going to sleep according to the psychologist mas hindi rested ang kahit sinong tao kc it gives them a more excited behavior. according din sa studies we should always ignore the temper tantrums kasi toddler's could learn from it how to have self control. hope this helps

           
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Re: Sleep Training
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2008, 07:57:00 pm »

i agree with all of you mga moms...

my daughter is turning 1 this may.. since 4months siya nahilig na siya manood ng barney and pooh (pero mas enjoy siya sa barney kasi puro songs)

this really helps sa routine niya sa pagtulog.. at 5pm hilamos na siya. then watch kami ng barney.. automatic na un, pupuntahan na niya yung tv or pc para ipalagay yung dvd ng barney. while watching there are times na naglalaro kami, harutan basta may touch, hugs and kisses ko.. pag "iloveyou, youloveme..." na ni barney, she will wave her hand, meaning no more na.. siya magisa hihiga na sa pwesto niya (where her stufftoys are).. aakapin c barney and pooh.. after a while knock out na siya..

thanks sa mga bedtime buddies niya.. she gets comfort while sleeping..



nga pala mga mommies pano maginsert ng pix? kasi nagiinsert ako using the icon sa post reply pero ayaw.. pix sana ni baby while sleeping with pooh and barney.

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Re: Sleep Training
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2008, 08:05:43 pm »

thank you mommy kizzia for your POV based on what u have learned from ur schooling days.ang POV ko naman with regards to this kind of situation is that it  has to be based on the child's age.kung toddler na siya,for me,applicable na yung ignoring your child's tantrums,pero pag baby/infant palang(first 12 months of life),ignoring your baby's crying and discomforts will only lead to emotional and physical stress,insecurity,exhaustion,and frustration.His self esteem lowers and he loses trust and confidence that his parents will be there for him.Babies cry because they need something,this is baby's only way to talk and to get us understand that they need something.Ignoring a baby's cry will not soothe him. :)
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Re: Sleep Training
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2008, 08:04:32 am »

^I agree din po sa sinabi mo Mommy

based nga kay Dr. Sears, who invented the Sears method ng sleep training, babies cry because they need something and its the only way of communicating with people around them. mahirap lang talaga decipher(hehe).

nabasa ko din sa Working Mom magazine dated 2003(tagal na nito), na babies 6 months and below does not have the cognitive to manipulate the people or things around them. and suggested that whenever they cry, dapat comfort mo agad.

pero may point din si Mommy Kizzia. pero siguro mga more than 6 months na sila turuan ng mga ganito. kasi by then, they are more adept to their surrounding. na kahit papaano may understanding na sila.

pero, I must admit, minsan nagagawa ko sa baby ko ito. kasi minsan, hindi maiiwasan na sobra ka na stress sa work, tapos pag uwi mo, naubusan ka na ng powers para sa kanya. kaya I really envy yung mga Mommy na may support system sa bahay (mga parents, in-laws). kasi sa amin, yaya lang. ang minsan, pagod na din si yaya sa maghapon na pag-aalaga.

Nga pala, may video sa babycenter ng 2 families na nag try gamitin yung 2 methods ng sleep training. medyo nakaka-trauma yung Cod Turkey type. pero may benefits din naman sila na nakuha at it seems naman na hindi traumatic sa baby yung ginawa nila.
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Re: Sleep Training
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2008, 10:21:09 am »

nakaka awa kc pag nag iiyak si macky,na may luha pa,nagiging spoiled na nga at an early age e,pag iiyak siya,karga agad,kung baga di siya sanay umiyak hehe.i'm still looking for good ways to reduce baby's crying at night pag hindi niya makita yung comfortable position niya sa pag tulog o kaya naman nagigising in the middle of the night,maybe from a bad dream or uncomfortable lying positon while sleeping,gusto niya kc kakarga siya hele konti,bihira naman yung ganun siya,usually dede lang ok na(buti nalang breastfeeding). ;)
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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2008, 11:37:27 am »

Korek mommy kizzia, ignore ur child kapag tinatantrums na. kadlasan dyan kami nagtatalo ng mom ko. Kasi for example, may gsto yung anak ko na lumabas pa ng house, then its late na, and time to sleep na since alam ng anak ko na may kakampi sa kanya minsan yung iyak niya eh talgang sinsadya na nyang umiyak ng malakas just to catch my moms attention. Ako ang ginagawa ko, I let him cry, hinahayaan ko sya, hindi ko pinapansin for a minute then I will talk to him to stop na and try to explain kahit alam ko hindi pa niya naiintindhan, yung mom ko biglang papasok at kukunin yung anak ko para patahanin. Dyan na kami nag-aargue ng mom ko kasi reason niya gabi na, ang reason ko kasi, if ganun sya, ako lalabas na masama in front of my son.alam niya na may kakampi sya. So magiging paulit ulit na ganito.
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2008, 12:01:23 pm »

yah mga moms i agree with also,,mom ganyan din mom ko laging to the rescue for thier apo!!!but thank god at minsan lang sya nandito sa bahay namin so nagagawa ko ang pag didicipline sa kids ko nang walang nakikialam hehe :D :D

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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2008, 05:42:27 am »

hi moms, just new here! happy mother's day sating lahat! ive been reading various methods of getting baby to sleep soundly through the night as well as nap times and learned about the methods mommy lei learned about. But the thing about Dr. Weissbluth's crying out, saka yung kay Ferber's enhanced crying out na pupuntahan mo once in a while is that we are breaking the child's trust to us at a very young age. Hindi man daw natin mapansin yung effects now, but in the future, the kid will have certain psychological issues. Siguro nga there would have to be a perfect age kung kelan we can already discipline them and it would depend on the personality of each baby. Pero for me, i follow Dr. Sears (The Baby Sleep Book : The Complete Guide to a Good Night's Rest for the Whole Family ) and Elizabeth Pantley (No Cry Sleep Solution) kasi they have more gentle ways e. You may want to check these books out or read articles about them. One good website would be:

http://www.enotalone.com/article/5196.html

Sleep tight!
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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2008, 03:03:41 pm »

Happy Mother's day po sa ating lahat! ;D

question lang po, medyo mahaba story, lagyan ko ng prelude

baby kasi namin, 5 months today, nasanay ng yaya na hele tuwing matutulog. nasanay din sya na after 30 mins to 1 hour na nakatulog na sya after hele, saka sya ibaba. kaya tendency is mabilis sya magising or ayaw na niya magpa baba.

so last week, 3 days kasi ako wala pasok, sinanay ko sya matulog ng walang hele. instead nakadapa sya sa tummy ko, then tapik-tapik ang pwet or binti niya. medyo nagka iyakan kami nun ng mga 30 mins to 40 mins, pero nasanay din sya. kasi nung second nap na niya ng hapon, madali ko na sya napatulog habang naka-dapa sa tummy ko, wala ng hele. then tumagal na din ang sleep niya, since pagka tulog niya sa tummy ko, ibaba ko sya agad sa bed. dati kasi, mga 30 mins to 1 hour lang sleep niya, putol-putol. tapos mga 1 1/2 hours kayo patulugan. pero nung na-training ko sya nun, 3 hous straight ang sleep niya for 3 days na wala ako pasok. pati nga si hubby, napatulog niya ng walang hirap (hindi kasi niya mapatulog si baby dati dahil hindi sya marunong mag-hele).

then syempre, balik na ako sa work. nagulat na lang ako, after 2 days pagbalik ko sa work, ayaw na niya matulog ng ganun. yun pala, sinanay na naman ng yaya na may hele. this time, ibang style naman. habang nakadapa si baby sa tummy, yugyug sya ni yaya. kaya hirap na hirap na naman ako na ibaba sya sa bed. kasi pag bumabaw na sleep niya at hindi na sya niyuyugyug, gising ang lolo mo.

ngayon wala na naman ako pasok, I'm determined na sleep train ko na naman sya ng walang hele. nag start kami kaninang umaga and sumuko ako ngayon since 9 hours lang sleep niya last night.

question ko po is ok lang ba na hayaan ko sya umiyak ng umiyak habang nasa tummy ko? is it considered na Ferber method na din po ba? habang umiiyak kasi sya sa tummy ko, kino-comfort ko naman po sya. pero hindi yung klase na gusto niya which is hele nga. ok lang po ba yun? medyo natatakot po kasi ako na i-associate niya ako sa iyak at magalit sya sa akin since 2nd time around na ganito kami.

another reason po kasi kaya gusto ko sya sleep train is because pag lumabas kami, at inantok sya, hindi sya maghanap ng hele. may pupuntahan pa naman kami na birthday party sa May 24, medyo malayo yun. baka kasi antukin sya at hanapin na yung hele while lying in my tummy. kasi nung sanay pa sya ng hele habang nakatayo, punta kami sa pedia, ng pauwi na habang nasa taxi, inantok ang baby at naghanp ng hele, ayun nagwala. ayoko na kasi maulit yun.

thanks po in advance!
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