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Title: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: nylej20 on May 14, 2011, 01:37:00 pm
mga mommies, ano po stand nyo sa RH bill, pro ba kayo or anti?
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: chinadoll on May 14, 2011, 02:02:11 pm
There is a lot of buzz re this and for me one cannot say if one is pro or anti without first knowing all the details about the bill and its parameters.

I do agree with the couple's choice on deciding the best form of birth control and being responsible in family planning. It is ultimately the woman who knows what is best for her body and the spacing she needs for each birth. This means being fully aware of the consequences and benefits of their informed choice.

I also agree on certain points such as there are already existing forms of birth control but what we really need to do is to implement them more strictly and making the general public more aware of their choices.
It also means more discipline and responsibility as a couple not just for their offspring/s but for the entire nation which will be directly affected by the choices they make.

Question: Do we really need more public funding to go into condoms and other forms of contraception that will benefit businessmen and maybe a cause for corruption?

Her are a few things I am sure of:

I do not agree with abortion or killing the formed egg just to counter population growth.

I also do not agree with children getting sexually active and acting irresponsible.

I believe that sexual intercourse is sacred and is a gift from God that deserves His blessing.
I believe that is the responsibility of every couple to be aware, disciplined and committed to their choices before going into this consequential act.

Yes, faith plays largely on this decision. What works for one may not be for the other.

Natural family planning, abstinence, (withdrawal) and the calendar method are some options for those with a heavy Catholic upbringing and not in favor of artifical forms of contraception.

Visit your nearest friendly Family First Clinic or Baranggay Health Clinic.
Read up and Research on your options.
Find out more about the birth control patch.  




Title: RH BILL : yes or no?
Post by: dianne_gwa@yahoo.com on May 18, 2011, 01:39:50 am
Just want to hear your opinions mga mommies. Our government is focused on this topic, and they trying to a pass a law againts family planning.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: Mlabable on May 18, 2011, 01:40:27 am
Yan din ang tanong ko sa sarili ko. Anti or Pro? Minsan kasi pag may nagpaliwanag sa akin ng ganito ganyan naiiba ang stand ko. Mahirap talaga ang issue ng RH Bill, siguro kasi di ako well-informed kung ano talaga ang proposition ng RH Bill.
 
Basta ang sure lang ako ay eto --
* Say NO to Abortion
* Sex Education (Ok lang sa akin to kung highschool na ang students)
* Choice ng parents if they opted for natural or artificial contraceptives
* Responsible Parenting
 
I'm using pills before (Yasmin) pero parang namulat ako sa isang post ni Daddy Jojo about pills na parang abortion rin ng baby yung process na ginagawa ng OCP kaya nag Calendar Method kami ni hubby for 3 months na.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: Mommy_Cathz on May 18, 2011, 07:23:10 am

Basta ang sure lang ako ay eto --
* Say NO to Abortion
* Sex Education (Ok lang sa akin to kung highschool na ang students)
* Choice ng parents if they opted for natural or artificial contraceptives
* Responsible Parenting
 


Yan din ang stand ko regarding with RH BILL and in addition to that dapat magkaroon sila ng proper guidance kung paano at kanino pwede at hindi pwede  mag-avail ng mga over the counter medicines like pills. hindi naman kasi lahat ng pills eh pwede sa atin mga babae, case to case basis pa rin ito...

 Natural family planning ang gamit namin ng husband ko. For me as long na maaalagaan ang buong welfare ng buong pamilya lalo at higit ng mga mommies at ating mga babies... why not. Ako kasi na niniwala na masmalaki na kasalanan sa DIYOS kung hindi natin maalagaan at mai-aayos ang buhay ng mga magiging anak natin. Plus the fact na dapat ang pagpla-plano ng pamilya should be discussed by both side (husband and wife) hindi pwede na iisa lang dun sa couple ang gusto magplano at yung isa eh nasa "pwede na yan" mode.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: chinadoll on May 18, 2011, 09:26:52 am
Me to we practise abstinence, natural planning, withdrawal, calendar method.

I do not like the effects of contraceptives like pills. I have bad headaches and do not like the long term effects of this too.

Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: ainge88 on May 18, 2011, 11:08:52 am
I'm planning to take the natural way din kasi panget side effects sakin ng injectables. Plus I do think it is abortifacient :(

Ang ayoko lang sa RH Bill is it will be another way para mangurakot ang mga taga gobyerno. Sayang ang pondo kung hindi magagamit ng maayos.

In the end ang tao naman ang magdedecide kung ano ang gusto nila na family planning. Tsaka I think there's nothing new to the bill (at least from what I've read.)

Pero there are some points sa RH Bill na sumasangayon ako.

I think grade 5 is ok for sex ed. Masyado na fast paced ang mga bata ngayon. They get information everywhere! My brother na grade 2 and 5 already knows the meaing of blowj*b *shock* they know what going down means. When I as them where did they find out about that, sabi sa classmates, friends.hindi naman forte ng parents ko mag "s*x talk" ayaw nila. Nahihiya siguro. So better sa school manggaling. IMO lang.

As long as there is no abortion and the funds will go to where it is supposed to go (asa na lang) ok lang naman sakin RH Bill.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: J0 on May 18, 2011, 04:27:41 pm
I am against this bill because it kills women and children

I am very disgusted by it that I don't even want to call it a name.

I have read the versions of the bill by Rep. Hontiveros and Rep. Lagman.  I am finding time this week to read the new version (Bill 4244 ba yun)

Kung makalusot ang bill na ito.  Magpoprotesta ako at di ako magbabayad ng buwis.  Handa akong magkulong kung kasuhan ako ng Sedition.

Papayag po ba tayo na gamitin ang buwis na ibinayad natin para ipambili ng contraceptives na papatay sa mga kababaihan at sa mga anak natin?

(http://filipinosforlife.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/abortifacient-pills-poster-3v-max-res.jpg)
Full Size: http://filipinosforlife.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/abortifacient-pills-poster-3v-max-res.jpg
From: http://filipinosforlife.files.wordpress.com

Sana po ma-realize ng lahat na hindi choice ang pumatay.

Huwag po sana tayong magpaloko.  Let's empower ourselves with knowledge and information.

Alamin po sana natin ang katotohanan tungkol sa Fertility at Conception.

Mas madalas po, hindi naman posibleng mabuntis...dahil 3-5 days lang Fertile ang mga babae.

(http://www.maybebaby.com.au/gallery/images/1144828120Cycle.jpg)

Sa impormasyon pa lang na ito, malalaman natin na useless ang gumamit ng artificial birth control.

Solusyon: Sana ay mas pondohan ang pagbibigay ng ganitong impormasyon at edukasyon tungkol sa Fertility at Conception.

Sana maging empowered po tayo at well-informed tungkol sa Natural Family Planning

Ang pinakasimpleng paraan para malaman kung pwede bang mabuntis ay ang pag-observe sa cervical mucus tuwing umaga, pagbangon.  Kung wala, hindi mabubuntis...kung meron at stretchy, pwedeng mabuntis (Two-Day Method, Ovulation/Cervical Mucus Method)

(http://nfp.marquette.edu/images/fertillity_level.gif)

Solusyon 1: Sana ay mas ilagay ang budget sa pagtuturo ng Natural Family Planning Methods.  Marami po ang mga ito: Basal Body Temperature Method (BBT), Ovulation Method (OM), SymptoThermal Method (STM), Lactational Ammenhorrea method (LAM), Standard Days Method (SDM), Two-Day Method at iba pa.

Solusyon 2: Sana ang mas bilhin o pababain ang presyo ay Ovulation Predictor Kits (OPK).  Makakatulong ito para malaman kung fertile o hindi.

Maging malaya po sana ang ating mga pagiisip at malaman natin ang katotohan sa likod ng Artificial Birth Control.

Ang Artificial Birth Control ay nagdudulot ng sakit.  Pakitingnan na lang ang product insert o literature ng inyong contraceptive brand.  Dapat ay malinaw na pinaliwanag ito ng Ob-Gyn.

Halibawa, nasa product insert ng Trust ang side effects...they just try to make it less alarming by saying na rare cases daw ang mga adverse reactions na ito:

"headaches, gastric upsets, nausea, vomiting, impaired appetite, a feeling of tension in the breasts, changes in body weight, changes in libido, and depressive moods. Liver damage...toxic hepatosis...clotting disorders, high blood pressure, stroke and liver disorders...heart diseases and increased risk of breast and cervical cancer."
http://www.tfp.com.ph/resources/trustpill_insert.pdf

May kasama tayo dito sa Smart Parenting na nagsabi na although wala siyang naramdaman na side effects, nagkaroon naman siya ng stones sa gall bladder.

"I've been taking pills for 5 to 6 yrs and no side effects were felt, but that's what I thought.. not until after 6 yrs, nakaroon ng stones sa gall bladder ko at kailangan tanggalin kaagad due to complications. As per the Dr, taking pills is one of the reasons daw kaya I stopped it at once."

http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php?topic=20910.msg312042#msg312042

Dagdagan po natin ang ating kaalaman.  Heto po ang video na pwede nating panoorin.

Video stream of ABS-CBN's Harapan "RH-Bill::Ipasa o Ibasura"
http://bidabestkapamilya.blogspot.com/2011/05/harapan-rh-bill-ipasa-o-ibasura-may-8.html
 (http://bidabestkapamilya.blogspot.com/2011/05/harapan-rh-bill-ipasa-o-ibasura-may-8.html)
 
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: chinadoll on May 19, 2011, 09:06:53 am
Thanks again Daddy Jojo for this very insightful, enlightening and empowering information!
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: leisison on May 19, 2011, 10:01:32 am
Interesting discussion moms and dads.  Can you kindly vote on our poll?

http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/community/polls/

Thank you!
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: ysLim on May 19, 2011, 10:28:17 am
anti RH here. we have access to contraceptives naman. it's just a matter of educating the public.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: Mommy Jazz on May 19, 2011, 10:49:12 am
I'm actually divided. I can't wait to watch the debate on GMA on Sunday night.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: ainge88 on May 19, 2011, 11:32:57 am
Oooh! Me too Mommyjazz! Last time I think the anti rh won the debate.

Did anyone get to watch the interpellation of pacqiuao? Was it really that bad??
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: chinadoll on May 19, 2011, 01:22:12 pm
Interesting Read -
Blog: Musings on the RH Bill
Posted by: tasyo
Date: 2010-10-05
by Rowena Anthea Azada-Palacios


First of all, let's get two things straight:

(1) Even if this bill gets signed into law, induced abortion will still be illegal.
(2) Even if this bill doesn't get signed into law, artificial contraception will still be legal.

So let's get rid of the straw men crowding the issue.  The supporters of the bill are not, in this instance, calling for the legalization of abortion.  The critics of the bill are not, in this instance, calling for the banning of artificial contraception.

==========

Yes, this is an issue of choice.  I argue, however, that BOTH sides of the debate are arguing for choice.

Those who support the bill argue that the bill is about giving all Filipinos the choice to personally and privately decide for themselves which form of contraception they wish to use, if any.  It is a freedom that is currently afforded to the segment of the population that has more access to information--the most educated and most literate--who have wider access to information.

I think many (most?) of those who support the bill are, in effect, saying that the same choice should be made available to everyone in the populace.  They are saying that since there are many in the population who do not have access to information in the way that the most educated do, the government ought to fill in that space by mandating that the information be included in the curriculum, through Family Planning offices (to be created by the bill), and through the Commission on Population (also to be created by the bill).

To extend the issue further.  While the bill reemphasizes the illegality of induced abortions, some proponents of the bill argue that the bill will actually LOWER the numbers of illegal abortions by lowering the numbers of unwanted pregnancies.

==========

Those who criticize the bill are also arguing for choice.  The bill does make very clear value statements: it considers population control and birth spacing to be desirable, and it associates contraception (both natural and artificial) with the goal of lowering the country's population.  It prohibits both private and public doctors from refusing to perform voluntary ligations and vasectomies.  It also adds artificial contraception--including pills and intrauterine devices--to the list of "essential medicines."

I think many (most?) of those who criticize the bill are arguing that they do not want these values and viewpoints--which they do not hold--to become "official state policy."  Those who criticize the bill might disagree with the views expressed therein regarding birth spacing or population control.  The critics might also object to many of the kinds of contraception being promoted by the bill, and they may not want their tax money to be used to purchase these forms of contraception for others (which becomes a strong possibility, if these will now be considered "essential medicines").

On the issue of abortion, then.  There are those who argue, then, that the passage of the bill will push the State to promote and possibly subsidize potentially abortifacient forms of contraception (such as pills and IUDs), using taxpayers' money.

http://www.ateneo.edu/soh/global/module.php?LM=articles.detail&id=1286278512160
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: Mommy Jazz on May 19, 2011, 01:26:05 pm
Just now I saw an excerpt of J. Soho's interview with Lea Salonga, sila daw ni Manny ang pinaglalaban or pambato ng both debating team. I'm not sure if Lea will participate on the debate but Manny made a special appearance.

I haven't  read the RH bill yet but I hope the anti-RH will discuss the same things Daddy Jojo is explaining, on why it can be a form of abortion, that contraceptives doesn't always work and that the formed cells gets flushed out . What I know is, the church is fighting for the concept that life starts when the cells merge and form. Others think that it's when the heart starts beating. This is the part of the debate I'm looking forward to. I hope they touch on it.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: nylej20 on May 19, 2011, 03:13:30 pm
parang guilty naman ako sa pill issue na yan? eh pano kaya ako di gagamit ng pills eh once a year lang umuwi si hubby at one month lang sya mag stay dito?di rin pwede sakin ang calendar method kasi irregular ako..malaking debate talaga ang RH bill na yan, just like other moms here, against abortion din ako at naniniwala ako na dapat talaga ay pinaplano ang pamilya..kung sa tingin natin ay di pa natin kaya mag anak ng marami, dapat tayo mag ingat. nasa ating mga magulang yun dahil walang kinalaman ang mga bata dito..ika nga, ginagawa lang sila hehe :) :) let'sm just wait and see kung ano magyari dito
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: mixx on May 19, 2011, 10:31:47 pm
well ako naman ive read the bill and i am supporting it.
Kasi first of all it is still anti-life. next i think education is important to us filipinos. we should also have the right to have an option of what we want to do sa buhay natin, and that includes also the opportunity to have a better quality of life.
contraceptives are not mandatory naman, pero i do agree na dapat may prescription ang pills kapag kailangan ito.
also reality din na may parents na hindi kayang maging open to talk about sex sa mga anak nila. i have talked to some of my friends and they say it's the most awkward thing to talk about as well. hindi lahat ng parents good channels of communication regarding the sex topic.

important na mainform for me ay yung mga underprivileged and basta yung mga mahihirap na hindi nagkaron ng opportunity magaral . hindi enough ang "sikap" to help out those na gustong buhaying yung napakarami nilang anak. naaawa ako sa mga batang hindi nabibigyan ng magandang buhay dahil lang sa misinformed parents nila na hindi nakapag-spacing. they do have the right na magkaron ng damit man lang na sarili nila, kahit pagkain na iba yung variety. some nga hindi nakakakain!

the enhanced bill 4244 is better, i just read today. i read the whole bill na 5043 and i do not see anything negative naman or makakasama sa society natin. that is of course, in my opinion.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: mariann on May 22, 2011, 11:30:58 am
i'm pro-RH bill for a better quality of life for us filipinos.
 
whether we have the bill signed into law, we still have a choice on what contraceptive methods we would us since we are still a free country.  abortion would still be illegal.  so what is everybody fretting for?!
 
what do the church really want?  to have the women abused physically by giving birth yearly?  how many children born out of poverty will they be able to feed and send to school?
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: ilovegabe on May 22, 2011, 04:29:36 pm
I am pro. I just want every woman properly educated. What ever choice each woman make, at least informed choice yun.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: ainge88 on May 22, 2011, 07:25:34 pm
Tapos na ba the debate sa GMA7? What time po yun??
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: Mommy_Aubs on May 22, 2011, 10:40:21 pm
I am pro. I just want every woman properly educated. What ever choice each woman make, at least informed choice yun.

i totally agree with you mommy.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: toughmom moderator on November 12, 2011, 01:41:33 am
Reviving this thread

Filipina Baby Brings World Population to 7 Billion
While majority of Filipinos are in favor of family planning, much needs to be done in order to properly educate them and make modern family planning methods available to them.
(http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/images/site-alpha/articles/7billionth-web.jpg)
http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/community/news/filipina-baby-brings-world-population-to-7-billion (http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/community/news/filipina-baby-brings-world-population-to-7-billion)
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: galathea on November 12, 2011, 03:03:50 am


PRO
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: J0 on November 12, 2011, 02:33:11 pm
ANTI

I will not allow a bill that will promote the further killing of unborn babies (chemical abortion) and women (cancer, etc.) through the use of contraceptives!

Lahat po ng mga hormonal Contraceptives (oral/pills, injectibles) ay may dalawang klase ng chemical, Synthetic Chemicals na "Estrogen" at "Progesterone".  iniiba-iba po ang pangalan ng mga ito...siguro para itago sa atin.  Ang mga ito po ay declared na Group 1 Carcinogens ng World Health Organization (WHO).  Ibig pong sabihin ng Group 1, sigurado ka sa cancer.

(http://monographs.iarc.fr/images/logoiarc.gif)(http://monographs.iarc.fr/images/ciegroup.gif)

Agents Classified by the IARC Monographs, Volumes 1–102
source: http://monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Classification/index.php
Group 1Carcinogenic to humans 107 agents
Group 2A Probably carcinogenic to humans 59
Group 2B Possibly carcinogenic to humans 267
Group 3 Not classifiable as to its carcinogenicity to humans 508
Group 4 Probably not carcinogenic to humans 1

Agents Classified by the IARC Monographs, Volumes 1–102
source: http://monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Classification/ClassificationsAlphaOrder.pdf
CAS No |Agent Group |Volume       |Year
Estrogen-progestogen oral contraceptives (combined)
(NB: There is also convincing evidence in humans that
these agents confer a protective effect against cancer in
the endometrium and ovary)
172, 91,100A 2011
Oral contraceptives, combined estrogen-progestogen
(see Estrogen-progestogen oral contraceptives)
Progestogen-only contraceptives2B72 1999
 
Tamang ayusin natin at mas pondohan ang edukasyon.  Maraming kailangan ituro.  Dapat turuan ang mga magulang ng tamang parenting at sila ang magturo sa anak nila ng maraming bagay.  Dapat sa bahay pa lang natuturuan na kung papaano ang mag-asal tao...ang magkaroon ng basic knowledge man lang interpersonal relationships, ng human fertlity at ng maami pang topics.

Sana magbasa pa ang lahat at maging empowered ng tamang impormasyon tungkol sa isyu na ito.

Ang paglaki ng populasyon ay pwede pang maging susi sa pag-unlad ng ating bansa.

"I would like to point out to the President that he is ignoring the long-term consequences of distributing artificial contraceptives for free to the poor. There is enough hard evidence in other countries that followed the same path of population control, which shows that a contraceptive mentality inevitably leads to a significant rise in abortion, divorce, single mothers and mentally unbalanced adolescents."

THINKING GLOBAL
Little chance for RH Bill
By: Dr. Bernardo M. Villegas
INQUIRER.net
1:36 am | Friday, October 14th, 2011

source:http://business.inquirer.net/24687/little-chance-for-rh-bill (http://business.inquirer.net/24687/little-chance-for-rh-bill)
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: MommyMichell on November 12, 2011, 08:22:35 pm
Pro, well said sis mariann, super agree ako sayo and also with sis ilovegabe
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: kuliglig^^ on November 15, 2011, 03:31:25 pm
PRO.  ;)
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: chester on November 15, 2011, 05:01:46 pm
i'm PRO.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: galathea on November 15, 2011, 08:05:12 pm
i'm pro-RH bill for a better quality of life for us filipinos.
 
whether we have the bill signed into law, we still have a choice on what contraceptive methods we would us since we are still a free country.  abortion would still be illegal.  so what is everybody fretting for?!
 
what do the church really want?  to have the women abused physically by giving birth yearly?  how many children born out of poverty will they be able to feed and send to school?

You sare so right sis mariann!
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: Mlabable on November 17, 2011, 05:20:04 am
Pro-RH  :)
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: smoothie on November 17, 2011, 08:47:16 am
I want people to be educated kaya pro ako. But I'm against abortion.

Sa office lang namin, yung mga workers dun. Mahina na ang 5 anak, merong 12, 18 ang anak. Yun pa lang paano mo mabibigay ang quality of life na dapa sa mga anak mo kung wage earner ka. Kaya ang nangyayari, nababaon sila sa utang.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: galathea on November 17, 2011, 09:02:49 am
parang guilty naman ako sa pill issue na yan? eh pano kaya ako di gagamit ng pills eh once a year lang umuwi si hubby at one month lang sya mag stay dito?di rin pwede sakin ang calendar method kasi irregular ako..malaking debate talaga ang RH bill na yan, just like other moms here, against abortion din ako at naniniwala ako na dapat talaga ay pinaplano ang pamilya..kung sa tingin natin ay di pa natin kaya mag anak ng marami, dapat tayo mag ingat. nasa ating mga magulang yun dahil walang kinalaman ang mga bata dito..ika nga, ginagawa lang sila hehe :) :) let'sm just wait and see kung ano magyari dito

You are so right sis nylej20!

My hubby naman get his vacation every 4-6months, and I just gave birth through CS, so kapag umuwi sya syempre kailangan namin mag-ingat, kasi kung mabuntis ako agad it would put me and my future baby in danger...

So alin ba ang mas responsible, yung pabayaan na lang namin na mabuntis ako and bahala na later on or yung mag-ingat kami from the beginning, so kapag darating hubby ko pills ako a month prior to his arrival and during his stay here para safe...

PRO-RH bill!

And it should be approved at the soonest possible time!
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: cowgirl_mommy on December 18, 2011, 02:45:19 am
I am for this bill.

The RH Bill does not exclusively promote artificial contraceptive over the natural family planning method. In the end, each couple, will have their own choice on what to use.

 I want this bill to be signed and made into law so that everyone, especially those who are underprivileged, will have a choice on how they want to plan how many children they can raise with opportunity and dignity.

I'm Pro Choice and Pro RH Bill
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: Lhani on December 19, 2011, 02:18:55 am
joining... ;D

Im a Pro RH Bill!!
Like me hindi kami mayaman hindi din kami ganon kahirap,we have 1 child 8 month old and we want to make sure na mabigay namin sa kanya ang lahat ng pangangailangan niya..Ayaw naman namin magpa tsamba-tsamba lang at bahala na kung mabuntis o hindi,,Syempre gusto namin yung maging secure yung future namin at ng baby namin at macontrol namin ang pagdami ng anak namin..

I hate women doing abortion! >:( so aantayin paba natin dumami ang mga batang ina at dumami ang mga makasalang nagpapa-abort? Syempre hindi na.. ;D

RH Bill isabatas na yan!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: Errych on April 13, 2012, 11:26:54 pm
Amidst the reported 92 million population boom of the country, Malacanang reassures the populace that the RH bill remains a priority of the administration.
(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4687/filipinofamilyci.jpg)
RH Bill a Priority of Aquino Administration
http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/community/news/rh-bill-a-priority-of-aquino-administration
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: 1sttimemom on May 04, 2012, 12:16:31 am
 PRO RH.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: danel_em on July 10, 2012, 08:18:55 pm
d ko pa nababasa ang full doc ng RH Bill. pero sa ngaun anti ako.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: toughmom moderator on August 05, 2012, 01:29:52 am
Congress Set to Vote on the RH Bill on August 7
(http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/images/site-alpha/articles/bw2-web.jpg)

http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/community/news/congress-set-to-vote-on-the-rh-bill-on-august-7
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: tsukino4 on August 08, 2012, 10:25:24 am
haha last yan ang research paper ko minimum of 50 pages =) nakakatuwa ang topic na to.. para sakin may advantage at disadvantage ang rh bill..

kaya for me kung matupad man ito.. oh well di naman ito pwersahan at nasa mag asawa pa rin ang choice or responsible decision..

then wala rin naman tayo magagawa sa bawat choice ng couple whether it is good for them or not.. na sa atin parin yun.. di naman kasi sinabe sa r.a ng reproductive health bill na lahat ng nakalagay dun eh is a "must".. oh well moving forward for me im not a con and a pro.. for me pag napatupad na ito its a couples choice
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: Jamielle Rose on August 08, 2012, 01:57:46 pm
pro ako dito...
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: journeyof3 on August 08, 2012, 06:02:38 pm
PRO RH

We still have a choice kung anong klaseng birth control. Hindi naman ifo-force feed sa atin yung mga pills.

We need to start educating our children, lets face it mapupusok na ang kabataan ngayon. They need to know about the consequences or how to protect themselves. Hindi lang about early pregnancy pero tungkol din sa mga sakit na pwede nilang makuha, lalo na HIV.

Let's not forget na included din ang health ng mga ina na buntis at manganganak. Ang taas kaya ng maternal death ng bansa natin.

Ang sa akin mas priority na maeducate ang mga mamamayan na nasa or below poverty line. Marami na akong natanong sa sektor na ito kung alam nila kung ano ang RH Bill, karamihan hindi alam. It is very upsetting for our family na araw araw nalang makakakita ka ng mga batang pinabayaan na. O mga magulang na natutulog na nga sa kalye, may maliit ng anak tapos buntis pa.


Nakita nyo na ba kung gaano kadami ang mga bata na pakalat kalat sa kalye, walang matirhan, walang nagaalaga, walang edukasyon, may mga sakit, napipilitang magtrabaho or gumawa ng masama sa mura nilang isipan. Ano kaya ang mas kasalanan, kontrolin ang pagbubuntis o manganak ng manganak tapos parang mga tuta na iiwan nalang sa kalye.


We are all entitled to our opinion.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: ahyzeyuh on August 09, 2012, 10:35:24 am
pro rh bill!!  :) so many many many many reasons!!

im starting to hate the church--- pwedi ba, wag nio damay sa homily ang pagiging anti rh bill nio-- your sending people away
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: journeyof3 on August 15, 2012, 09:30:26 am
@ahyzeyuh...

Super agree ako sa iyo.

Sa totoo lang, my faith in God is still there pero disappointed ako at how the Church is handling the issue kaya hindi na kami nagaattend.
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: danel_em on August 17, 2012, 02:23:38 am
nung naliwanagan ako sa mga misconceptions about RH bill, nagbago ang desisyion ko. PRO na ako ngaun... Kahit na hindi maipatupad yung bill, dapat masali sa grade 6 student class ang reproductive health. I remember i was in 2nd year college nung nalaman ko ang mga bagay bagay na dapat noon ko pa nalaman. :) malaking bagay un para mas maging responsable ang mga susunod pang henerasyon :)
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: mommy ni kent on August 17, 2012, 07:48:58 pm
pro
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: pichi on August 20, 2012, 12:30:03 am
I am for responsible parenthood and pro choice. so I;m PRO. anyway, nasa tao naman yan kung gsuto niya mag pills or not eh. wala namang pilitan
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: hanne on September 26, 2012, 08:12:04 pm
I am PRO RH Bill - pinakamabisang solusyon ang edukasyon. Dapat alam at naiintindihan ng mga kabataan ang mga pinagdadaan nila.

I have a 15 year old cousin na nabuntis (kasabay ko pa and 29yo naman ako nun). When asked ano nangyari di naman daw niya ineexpect na mabubuntis sya if done once. May mga 'positions' din daw na sinabi BF niya (who was 21 then) na HINDE daw siya mabubuntis. She was already 4mos pregnant when nalaman ng family niya kase nilalagnat na at akala may UTI lang. Complication na pala sa pregnancy and she was admitted due to possible abortion. When asked why hinde sya nagsasalita, hinde daw niya alam ano ang signs ng pagbubuntis - mga changes na pwede sana magbigay ng clue sa kanya na dapat na siya magsabi sa parents niya. Akala niya normal lang yung mga nararamdaman niya. Akala niya maysakit sya kaya kung ano anong over the counter meds and iniinom for lagnat and body pains. In short, nanganib ang buhay niya and ng baby niya.

She's now 16yo and my niece just turned 1 last September 9. I couldn't stop thinking kung ano pwedeng nangyari just because she wasn't properly informed and educated.
Title: RH BILL
Post by: macon on December 14, 2012, 08:56:40 pm
mga mommies just want to know your comments, opinions, even violent reactions about RH BILL, what if maipasa na ito??
Title: Re: RH BILL
Post by: J0 on December 15, 2012, 06:56:49 am
Kapag naipasa na at naging batas ang RH Bill, may pagtatapunan na ng nakamamatay na contraceptives ang mga multnational companies tulad ng Bayer.

"U.S. health regulators in April added warnings to the labels on the popular class of birth control pills that includes Bayer's Yaz and Yasmin, to show they may raise the risk of blood clots.

Bayer said on Tuesday it had so far agreed to pay a combined $750 million to settle 3,490 legal claims that Yasmin caused blood clots, and such injuries are alleged in a further 3,800 pending cases."


Patapon na kasi ang mga contraceptives, dahil wala nang bibili. Matapos na mapatunayan na nakamamatay ang kanilang artificial birth control drugs...at nalugi sila sa libo-libong nagsampa ng kaso...magi-invest na lang sila sa mas lower ang risk...tulad ng vitamins.

"Many pharmaceutical companies are keen to expand in non-prescription drugs as a steadier, albeit less profitable, counterweight to prescription medicines, where there are risks of, for example, clinical trial failures and patent expiries."

Source: REUTERS: Germany's Bayer is to buy U.S. vitamins maker Schiff Nutrition International... (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/30/us-bayer-schiff-idUSBRE89T09P20121030)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/30/us-bayer-schiff-idUSBRE89T09P20121030

Sa pamamagitan ng RH Bill, bibili ang gobyerno natin ng maramihan, milyones/bilyones na halaga ng contraceptives.  Ipapamudmud ng libre sa mahihirap...matutuwa sila at mahihiyang magreklamo.  Kung ikamatay ang paggamit nito, di agad mapapansin...kasi inunahan na tayo ng brainwashing sa mandatory sex education...pinapaniwala na tayo na safe at well-informed tayo.  Gustuhin man nating magreklamo at lumaban...hindi natin kaya...kasi mahirap lang tayo.  Di rin tayo matutulungan ng mga Non-Government Organizations...kasi ang pondo nila ay galing sa mga gumagawa ng contraceptives.

Tahimik na mamamatay ang mga buhay na sanggol na nabuhay ng ilang araw dahil sa low dose na modern contraceptive...na nalalaglag dahil sa pagpapatuyo ng kemikal sa matris.

Tahimik na mamamatay sa blood clots, heart attack at cancer ang mga gumagamit ng pills at iba pang contraceptive.

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Napansn nyo ba ang English ng news article ng Reuters?  Carry nyo ba ang level?  Hirap ma-gets ano.  Ako paulit-ulit kong binasa.  Ang mas nakakarating sa atin at mas gets natin na news/information ay yung galing sa popular media (na madalas ay kumikita rin o kikita pa lang sa business/pera na dala contraceptives industry
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: toughmom moderator on December 15, 2012, 08:51:09 am
Same topic merged
Title: Re: RH Bill, Anti or Pro?
Post by: toughmom moderator on February 09, 2013, 12:51:27 am

Now that the hotly-debated RH Bill has been ratified, itís time to become familiar with this new law.
By Atty. Nikki JimenoUnderstanding the RH Law in 6 Questions
http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/mom-dad/mom-dad-health/understanding-the-reproductive-health-law/page/1 (http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/mom-dad/mom-dad-health/understanding-the-reproductive-health-law/page/1)