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Celebrations => Party Planning: Birthdays and Baptism => Topic started by: LLLA on November 01, 2011, 10:23:39 am

Title: Baptismal issues when parents are not married at church?
Post by: LLLA on November 01, 2011, 10:23:39 am
Hi po,

My daughter was baptized 4 years ago but for some reasons I was not able to get her Baptismal certificate after the baptism ceremony. I went to the Church last Sunday to get it and was shocked to know that they won’t be giving the Baptismal Certificate because my hubby and I are not yet married sa Church but Civil lang. They said letter lang ang ibibigay nila. The letter states since parents are not yet married the Baptismal Certificate won’t be released.

Ganito po ba talaga ang policy ng Catholic Church?
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: rianne_mallows on November 01, 2011, 09:23:14 pm
^ow? talaga? i dont know since i've yet to claim my daughter's baptismal certificate..  hubby and i are also civilly married..

bakit naman parents ko, civilly wed din, may baptismal certificate naman kami magkakapatid ???

new policy ba ito? sana may mag-clear
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: unknown on November 01, 2011, 09:46:56 pm
ha? bakit kaya ganun? saang church yan sis? yong sa akin sis civilly wed lang din kami tapos bininyagan yong anak namin nung dec 2010 tapos nakuha ko naman yong baptismal this year lang din nung august2011. ok naman.   magpunta ka sa intramuros sis Archdiocese of Manila pinakamain ng office ng catholic church para ma-raise yong concern mo kung bakit ganun.
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: jackie_0707 on November 02, 2011, 12:00:45 am
Anong church yan Mommy? Kakabinyag palang nung son ko, after 1 week daw available, eh Civil wedding palang din kami, pero wala namang sinabi nung nag pareserve kami about sa ganyang case.
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: LLLA on November 02, 2011, 06:29:45 am
Hi mga sisses,

thanks sa response. baka nga depende sa Parish Church.

Sa Our Lady of Lourdes PArish Church sa Tagaytay City bininyagan yung daughter ko..mahigpit nga ata sa  sila sa binyagan requirements..sa second baby ko baka sa ibang church ko nalang pabinyagan si Baby...para wala ng hassel..nag-iipon pa kasi ni hubby pang church wedding.. :-\

 
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: orangetag on November 02, 2011, 01:24:46 pm
Ganun? Parang ang OA naman ng rules. Ang alam ko hindi ka puwede ikasal if hindi ka nabinyagan, pero pwede makuha baptismal cert ng baby kahit di married sa church ang parents.
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: proudmamma ;) on November 02, 2011, 01:37:33 pm
hi mommy liz0615,

civil wed din ako pero di naman ako nagkaproblema sa pagkuha ng baptismal certificate ng anak ko sa church. sana wala namang ganiyan na policy kasi hindi rin naman 'yan fair sa parents most especially to their kids
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: pompz on November 11, 2011, 02:18:05 pm
sis yung sa eldest daughter ko di pa kami kasal nung binyagan sya, so far nakuha ko naman, yun talaga di kami kasal kahit saan , bakit ganon kahit civil wed atlist okay na din un
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: mamagwyn on November 25, 2011, 04:43:26 pm
sis baket naman kami , civil wed lang din kami pero wala naman problema, humingi lang sila ng copy ng marriage contract namin saka yun birth certificate ni baby
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: peppergurl971 on November 25, 2011, 05:01:58 pm
hi sis! Yan din ang alam ko sa parish na sineserve ko ngayon as Legionary. Ang work namin sa parish ngayon is to follow up all couples na Civilly Married & Not yet married na nagpabinyag ng babies nila. We encourage them to pursue Church Wedding kasi importante ito sa atin as Catholics. Hino-hold po ng ilang parishes ang baptismal certificates ng bata. Pero not all parishes naman are implementing this. Kaya dun sa mga couples na pina follow up namin, we are offering Mass Wedding (free of church processing fee). Kaya sis, please consider nyo naman ang church wedding.  :)
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: chester on November 25, 2011, 05:28:53 pm
@peppergurl971: me & my hubby civil wedding kami. this dec. binyag ni baby. at catholic church ko din siya papabinyagan.  dapat pala itanong ko din kung magbibigay sila ng certificate.  mabuti na lang nabasa ko etong topic na eto.  sis, hindi ba pag civil wed eh legal na yun. at pagnagpakasal sa church ulit ay renewal of vow yun? wala pa kami plan ng hubby ko pakasal sa simbahan eh. after 10 years pa plan namin ng hubby ko ang sa church.
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: peppergurl971 on November 28, 2011, 06:57:22 am
@sis chester, hindi naman po lahat ng parishes nag i-implement ng ganitong rule. This is their way kasi to promote/encourage couples to make their vows solemn, and importante ito satin na Catholic kasi this is one of the sacraments. Yung kasal nyo sa civil is of course legal na po yun,
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: ericamm on November 28, 2011, 01:42:16 pm
strict pala masyado sa ibang church. Yung sakin, after a month nakuha ko na agad Baptismal Certificate ni baby. Aug 2011 binyag ni baby tapos Sept. 2011 nakuha ko na. Hindi pa din kami kasal non ha. Pumunta lang ako dun, tapos wala na requirements hiningi sakin.
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: magilas on November 28, 2011, 02:06:04 pm
this is the first time i heard of this concern.

while it may be a way to encourage/motivate parents to wed in church, withholding/not releasing the baptismal certificate is equivalent to blackmail (pardon the term). the baptismal rites of the child has nothing to do with the parents' wedding. in fact, even if not married, encouraging parents to have their child baptized should be done without conditions.

if you have not been informed of this condition  "no church wedding, no baptismal certificate release", before the baptismal rites, then perhaps this issue/concern should be raised in the appropriate diocese, as recommended by one mom here.

Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: mamagwyn on December 06, 2011, 09:17:34 am
ngayon ko lang din narinig ang mga eto.. pano rin kung single parent si mommy, eh di hindi mabigyan ng baptismal certificate..
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: peppergurl971 on December 06, 2011, 07:43:32 pm
ngayon ko lang din narinig ang mga eto.. pano rin kung single parent si mommy, eh di hindi mabigyan ng baptismal certificate..

Sa parish namin sis, depende sa sitwasyon. Pag ganyang single parent ka, walang problema sa pag kuha ng baptismal certficate. Yung hino-hold lang nila yung mag asawang nag sasama. Nakapagpa binyag, once, twice, paulit ulit na, pero di pa rin nagpapakasal.
Depende po sa sitwasyon.
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: DadyPoko on February 04, 2012, 08:56:01 am
Hello guys..

I have a similar problem with the TS, hindi pa kami kasal ng wife ko kahit sa civil pero may baby na kami. we're planning to have him baptized this march.. 3months na niya.

ano ba usually procedure pag ganito yung case?

Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: Shanelle™ on February 04, 2012, 10:08:46 am
HI there. I am also a single mom. My baby was baptized last August 2009 and I got the birth certificate a month after.

1st thing to do is ask your parish if they have policies for unwed couples. That way clear sayo so you can find/search for another church.

2ndly if the parish doesnt allow it, you may TAKE TIME to talk to the parish priest or any personnel in your church.

I had a counselling or discussion with our priest and I explained to him my current situation and he UNDERSTOOD.

Lahat naman napaguusapan. Good luck sis!
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: tashasabs on April 30, 2012, 12:58:10 am
May ganito pala? Wow. I didn't know that.

Sa first and second children namin di pa kami kasal noon ni husband. Wala naman sinabi sa amin yung parish na may ganyan, although Born Again kasi ako tapos si husband Roman Catholic (pero Born Again na rin siya ngayon), ang sinabi lang samin usually kapag ganyan dapat daw Roman Catholic ang mga bata. Ewan bakit. Pero balak na namin ipadedicate yung dalawang panganay tapos si pangatlo dedication na rin.
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: Leigh13 on April 30, 2012, 02:36:11 pm
bakit naman ganon? in the first place sana hindi na lang kyo inaccomodate kasi alam naman nila na hindi kyo kasal sa simbahan o kaya naman sana from the start sinabi nila na hindi kyo mabibigyan ng baptismal certificate for the reason na hindi pa kyo kasal sa simbahan so that you could have search for another church na makakapagbigay ng baptismal certificate.

Important pa naman yang baptismal certificate especially kapag mag aaral na yung baby nyo.
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: dmnq on April 30, 2012, 02:54:33 pm
Dapat talaga sinasabi nila na ganun pala mangyayari. Kami hindi pa talaga kasal pero nakuha naman namin yung baptismal cert ni baby. Yang mga ganyang parish na may mga kung ano anong rules eh nakakainis. Meron kami napuntahan dati dun sana namin papabinyagan eldest pero since hindi pa kami kasal ang magiging condition naman eh hindi isusunod sa last name ng tatay yung bata. eh ano un magkakaproblema pko di ba kasi sa birth cert naka apelyido sa tatay tapos sa baptismal hindi. kaya humanap na lang kami ng ibang church.
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: tashasabs on April 30, 2012, 04:14:52 pm
I agree. Dapat yung mga tumatao dun sa opisina ng parish kapag may  nag-iinquire tungkol sa baptism maging sensitive na rin saka may kusa na tanungin yung mga related na bagay gaya ng kung kasal ba ang parents, etc., tapos ipaliwanag na nila yung policies nila. Hindi yung tapos na ang binyag tapos kapag kukuha na ng baptismal certificate saka lang sasabihin yung mga ganun. Iba na panahon ngayon so sana mag-adjust din sila, di naman lahat ng magpapabinyag kasal na o may partner pa.
Title: Re: Baptismal Certificate Question
Post by: kurdapya101 on May 02, 2012, 11:02:30 am
meron ang anak ko na baptismal certificate though civil wed lang kami ni hubby ang higpit naman dun sa church na yun
Title: pwd binyagan 2nd child if parents are not married sa church?
Post by: momi_w on April 29, 2013, 12:10:22 pm
I heard hindi daw pwede binyagan ang pangalawang anak if the parents are not married sa catholic church? Is this true?

Civil marriage lang kasi kami ni hubby.