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Health => Birth Control => Topic started by: riazagala on July 19, 2009, 07:04:15 pm

Title: withdrawal
Post by: riazagala on July 19, 2009, 07:04:15 pm
ask ko lang kung effective ba to sa inyo?

meron na bang pumalya?

thanks.

mag 3 months na kasi ako since i gave birth, did not bfeed, still waiting for my period...ano kaya? is it early to take pt?

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Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: ilovegabe on July 19, 2009, 07:09:55 pm
not effective at all, theres this thing called a pre-c*m, and sadly it contains sperm cells din.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommy daryl on July 19, 2009, 08:05:40 pm
sis it's not effective.. you might want to consider using any form of contraceptives like condoms, IUD, depo shot or pills.  Ask your OB about it.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommy_yen on July 19, 2009, 08:10:21 pm
never effective sis. you might wanna consider something else. ask your OB.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: tineped on July 19, 2009, 08:13:27 pm
anyone here na pumalya sa withdrawal? :)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: rheasol20 on July 19, 2009, 08:30:58 pm
anyone here na pumalya sa withdrawal? :)
ako pumalya na sa withdrawal.. akala ko nun di un babubuo kasi lam ko safe talaga. Pero mali pala, kasi di mo alam meron parin nakakalusot. hihi!
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: εїз" Mrs.Pisces "εїз on July 19, 2009, 08:41:14 pm
anyone here na pumalya sa withdrawal? :)
ako pumalya na sa withdrawal.. akala ko nun di un babubuo kasi lam ko safe talaga. Pero mali pala, kasi di mo alam meron parin nakakalusot. hihi!
mga sis i know na hindi sya ganun ka effective... kaso si hubby ko ayaw maniwala skin... paano ko kaya sasabihin sa kanya. i want to try something else kaso ayaw naman ni hubby...
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: rheasol20 on July 19, 2009, 08:53:35 pm
wag nalang kayo mag withdrawal, ito safe talaga!

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Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommy daryl on July 20, 2009, 07:08:01 am
anyone here na pumalya sa withdrawal? :)

ako ren sis pumalya na sa withdrawal kaya nga nasundan agad yung panganay ko..  ;D
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: keih liwanag on July 20, 2009, 08:05:37 am
dami nako kilalang pumalya sa method na yan. never rely on it alone. prepare other ways of contraception.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: tineped on July 20, 2009, 08:19:03 am
Natakot naman ako mag 9mos pa lang baby girl ko nyay. I am 5 days delayed na. Nagtest na ko this morning (first wiwi) using Medic PT kit. NEGATIVE naman whew! Negative na talaga yun di ba? Hahaha! With KD kasi 5days delayed din ako nun and pagkatest ko 2 lines agad and reliable naman ang Medic (pampalubag loob). Hahaha! Possible na stressed lang ako lately at pagod dahil sa paglilinis at paglilipat namin sa bagong unit kaya siguro wala pa rin akong period. :)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: ahyzeyuh on July 20, 2009, 10:57:27 am
my 2 boys. because of withdrawal..

so? not effective  ;)

hi momy chie mishyu sis OT  :)

ako din sis sa widrawall nabuo si baby, naging reason pa ng away namin ni SD un, kc daw he widraw it , bakit nabuo.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mariann on July 20, 2009, 07:57:13 pm
we've been employing this kind of contraception during my unsafe days, so far effective naman.
kaya lang si hubby lang ang may control nito.  pag gusto niya akong buntisin pwede rin.  nakakatakot din ang pre-c*m, kung makabuo, baka pag-awayan pa.

OT:  i'm plannning to ask my OB regarding another conctraceptive.  period na kasi ako with 2 kids...
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: riazagala on July 20, 2009, 09:46:53 pm
thanks sa mga reply,  ;D
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mama_dona on July 20, 2009, 10:16:25 pm
So far ok pa naman sa kin ang withdrawal. 4 years ang gap ng first babies ko.I think nasa partner din talaga ng control.  According to my hubby, ramdam naman daw yon.  In our case, we are so thankful na di pumapalya.  Nabuo namin mga babies namin sa time na gusto na talaga namin.   :)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: ahyzeyuh on July 21, 2009, 03:12:45 am
wag nalang kayo mag withdrawal, ito safe talaga!

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SURE NA SAFE YAN! BETTER THAN WITHDRAWAL

i appreciate this  info
1st day of perios ko dat time was jan.27 > i was with sd betwn feb 6-8
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: dhines1019 on July 21, 2009, 11:11:38 am
So far ok pa naman sa kin ang withdrawal. 4 years ang gap ng first babies ko.I think nasa partner din talaga ng control.  According to my hubby, ramdam naman daw yon.  In our case, we are so thankful na di pumapalya.  Nabuo namin mga babies namin sa time na gusto na talaga namin.   :)

wala din ako naging problem sa issue na to kahit nung bf-gf pa kame (hala nalathala na mga kalandian sa premarital **x)

okay pa naman sa min ang ganitong setup so far...

more than 4 yrs din ang age gap ng mga kids ko at next baby ko plan ko sundan after 3 yrs naman..

now going 2 yrs na bunso ko...

and nakakahiya man ipost dito pero every other day ang **x namin pero di pa rin nakakalusot ang unwanted sperm na yan...  ;D
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Masakari14 on July 21, 2009, 11:51:01 am
It's one of the LEAST effective means of birth control. Most men while in "the heat of the moment" would not want to withdraw at the last moment and would tend to climax inside. Also some women may be so totally aroused during the act that they would not want their partner to pull out at the last second, which is why this method is so unreliable.

Still, to those who have used it successfully, I must say congratulations! You (and your partner especially) must have incredible discipline and self control.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: ginger_ale on July 21, 2009, 06:27:12 pm
wag nalang kayo mag withdrawal, ito safe talaga!

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sis pano yan? d ko alam..
im on pills i want to stop muna..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: rheasol20 on July 21, 2009, 07:07:58 pm
madali lang yan! ONSET OF MENSES IS THE DAY WEN U START UR MENS, UNSAFE PERIOD yan yung date na di ka dapat pagalaw sa partner mo, rest of the date is ur safe period.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mariann on July 21, 2009, 07:19:32 pm
It's one of the LEAST effective means of birth control. Most men while in "the heat of the moment" would not want to withdraw at the last moment and would tend to climax inside. Also some women may be so totally aroused during the act that they would not want their partner to pull out at the last second, which is why this method is so unreliable.

Still, to those who have used it successfully, I must say congratulations! You (and your partner especially) must have incredible discipline and self control.

the discipline here actually is on the husband only.  kasi kung gusto man nila kaming buntisin, wala din kami magawa.  sila ang makaka-feel nito kung kelan sila lalalabasan eh.

after our first baby na premature, mas naging careful si hubby.  maalala niya lang yong gastos sa hospital parang hindi na siya labasan!!! hahaha!!!  kaya 3 years and a half gap ng kids namin.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: riazagala on July 21, 2009, 10:21:15 pm
thanks sa mga infos...btw, got my period today! ;D

back to diane, para sigurado  :D
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Mommy Lyn on July 22, 2009, 01:37:30 pm
sa akin effective ang withdrawal ako kasi regular mens kaya effective siya at depende din sa hubby mo un kung marunong ito nga 4 years ang gap ng panganay ko ngayon lang nabuntis withdrawal lang gamit namin mag-asawa kaya masasabi ko na effective siya. :D
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: stargazer on July 22, 2009, 05:35:45 pm
my eldest came about because of withdrawal... so hindi siya effective. and there's always pre-c*m and may chance na this can be a cause for pregnancy.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: riazagala on July 22, 2009, 11:45:36 pm
ang OB ko kase, sa kanila 100% effective ang withdrawal...i guess, iba iba lang, meron din naman na hindi reliable, condom na lang to be safe.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: imapsychstud on July 24, 2009, 07:33:07 pm
hahaha...

sa amin, 2 years reliable ang withdrawal...

kaso minsan lang talaga pumalya...
nailabas na ni hubby c jonjon...
kaso ayun may sumulpit na sperm kay jingjing kahit sa labas lang...


nabuo ang baby zach namin  :D


true, ramdam ng guys un pg lalabas na, kaso mka biglang hindi nila mcontrol sa sobrang sarap...


well,happy naman kami kahit hindi planado  ;D
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mych on July 27, 2009, 01:22:38 pm
So far ok pa naman sa kin ang withdrawal. 4 years ang gap ng first babies ko.I think nasa partner din talaga ng control.  According to my hubby, ramdam naman daw yon.  In our case, we are so thankful na di pumapalya.  Nabuo namin mga babies namin sa time na gusto na talaga namin.   :)
yah..kami rin di pumapalya..nasa disiplina ni hubby yun..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: cowgirl_mommy on July 29, 2009, 10:01:49 am
that's one concern na hindi ko pa alam pano i open up with hubby. just a month after my delivery, i had my period na. i thought my breastfeeding would at least delay it.

i talked to him about contraceptive measures. he's okay with it naman daw, pero sya na lang. he'll use condom daw. i bought condom. hindi naman ginagamit. we're still on withdrawal. never naman daw sya pumalya dati. but ayoko mag bakasakali. i don't want to hurt his ego either. :-\
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: chel_928 on July 30, 2009, 07:56:33 am
kami ni hubby eversince un n ginagawa niya, ok naman kasi 4 yrs din agwat namin dun s bunso namin, tapos after ng period ko pag clear n 3 days pd siya s loob mag plbas, 
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mami lyn on July 30, 2009, 02:39:46 pm
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sis panu to? hehe....
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommy imee on July 30, 2009, 04:15:49 pm
smin ni hubby effective ang withdrawal, 7 years n namin gamit to and i think ok naman sya smin... and we also consider d days f kelan ako safe!
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: jackiebee on July 30, 2009, 11:44:10 pm
13 yrs using this? at d ako nabuntis, effective i think for me.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mrsbueno on July 31, 2009, 05:26:25 pm
wag nalang kayo mag withdrawal, ito safe talaga!

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      27                                                  4-13
      28                                                  5-14
      29                                                  6-15
      30                                                  7-16
      31                                                  8-17

SURE NA SAFE YAN! BETTER THAN WITHDRAWAL
ei, sis panu nag to? diba dapat 14days cycle? un kasi ginagamit ko...
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Jennifer Arenajo on July 31, 2009, 05:37:25 pm
my eldest came out of withdrawal but there's no regret...we're just newly wed then, no plan to have kid but it came...no regret, instead she brings endless joy to us....then we still use withdrawal after four years, we plan to have our second baby boy, so our little boy came... :-*  to this date we still use withdrawal and combination of monitoring fertility period similar to what mommy rheasol20 suggested..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: okfine on August 03, 2009, 10:43:59 am
withdrawal din kame ngaun ni hubby,kc hindi pa ko nkapagpainject.
natatakot ako baka mkabou kgad kami.. :D
2nd shot ko na dapat last week.
ano kaya mgndang pills?
yung hindi kmhalan.natry ko na yung trust and marvelon..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: dave_ mom on August 08, 2009, 11:49:28 pm
Hindi sya effective para saken..considering regular pa period ko as in walang mintis..pero heto I am now a mom of a 5 month old baby boy...No regrets naman...Consult mo na lang OB regarding what's is the best option.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: lovebhey on August 09, 2009, 05:23:52 pm
this is not an effective method.kc nabuntis ako nun eh,kaya super napaaga ang pagaasawa ko.. ;D
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: julie_llevares on August 10, 2009, 09:22:58 am
So far me and my husband is been doing this for 2 years and yet effective naman. can we call it na nasa nagdadala un. I mean the man has the one who has the feeling when it was coming out.. so I guess it will depend on the man itself...
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: EVA on August 10, 2009, 12:01:02 pm
sa amin ni hubby effective..1 yr pa lang namin to ginagawa......
ayaw ko kasi ng pills...
baka may side effect
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Chitzzy on August 11, 2009, 05:00:41 pm
parang hindi effective yan kasi sa amin nabuo ang 2nd baby namin dahil sa withdrawal, nakita ko hinugot ng hubby ko at inalabas niya lahat. takot na kaming masundan ulit kaya heto condom ang gamit ni hubby. ok ba sa inyo.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: chillaxmom on August 11, 2009, 08:47:23 pm
not effective sis.. may emotional side effect pa kay hubby... lagi daw mainit ulo nila....
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: charmom on September 01, 2009, 12:25:48 am
effective po sya para sa akin kasi we've been using this for more than then years na po
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: precios on September 01, 2009, 10:26:47 am
effective siya kung marunong yung 2 cuoples,,just like my pamangkin,,she got preggy at 18,,ng sisi nga kasi bakit nabuo ei,,wnedraw daw hehe,,,
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: elijah vera on September 01, 2009, 10:29:47 am
hindi ko po alam if effective or not pero para saakin hindi kasi..(excuse me po)pano kung pareho kayo nasasarapan edi baka makalimutan ninyo yung withdrawal...hahahha baka ma deposit nyo...
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: charmom on September 02, 2009, 06:40:59 am
dapat always presence of mind kayo lagi lalo na syempre yung hubby mo, kasi 1 beses lang na mawala ka sa sarili nyo naku baby na naman yan! eh ang hirap pa naman ng buhay ngayon. mahirap na ano!
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: twinkl3star on September 07, 2009, 07:50:27 pm
sa amin effective for 9 years.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: sharlyn on September 07, 2009, 11:10:06 pm
mga sis! withdrawal din ginagawa ng honey ko para skin effective siya kc 2yrs na baby ko d p nsusundn...
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommygaga on September 08, 2009, 05:59:15 pm
Not for me. 
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: eytellene on September 08, 2009, 06:14:40 pm
not for me  ;D

kala ko matagal pa masusundan ang bonis ako ay pano ba yan buntis ako ngaun haha

pero oks lang it's a blessing from GOD :)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: arabellazoie on September 09, 2009, 12:59:36 pm
buti nalang sis at hindi pumapalya ang withdrawal  nyo...kasi sa akin pumalya ang method eh kaya heto andito na si  baby iashi pero no regrets naman
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: andi_mom on September 14, 2009, 05:39:05 pm
effective din naman samin yun. ginagawa namin yun dati pero pumalya din yun nung nabuo baby namin. hehe. so i suggest gumamit na lang talaga ng mga contraceptives.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: momwapas on September 15, 2009, 12:26:39 pm
Withdrawal is really not effective :(, kasi once my penetration kahit na minutes lang , der is a chance na mapreggy ka, may tinatawag kasi na pre-ejaculation, and der is 99% chance na mapreggy ka  lalo na kung fertile ka pa. So, for me contraceptive is really the answer kung ayaw mong mapreggy.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: GL and KL on December 05, 2009, 03:44:51 am
Ang tagal namin withdrawal method ni hubby pero hindi pumalya. .or siguro hindi pa talaga meant magka baby nung mga time na un :) then nung napreggy ako last dec 2007,planado na sya :)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Masakari14 on December 05, 2009, 05:46:52 am
I find it quite surprising how many people here use the withdrawal method quite effectively. Surprising because studies have shown that it is the least effective method of birth control. This makes me wonder.. For those using this method do you find your sex life more or less satisfying vs. when you allow your partner to ejaculate inside?
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: GL and KL on December 07, 2009, 04:09:39 am
Both :) kase in a way di mo kailngan magworry na magkaron ng unplanned pregnancy. .satisfying naman sya, dapat lang mauna yung girl :) hehe. .bawal sabay :)

Samin ni hubby, before yung 1st baby namin, withdrawal pag hindi safe, tapos calendar method din since reg naman menstruation ko. .and 10 days before/after yung sinusunod ko. .
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: chang_ong on February 15, 2010, 08:40:56 pm
after 6weeks of giving birth agad akong dinatnan ng mens ko, since non withdrawal use namin ni hubby for 3mos after giving birth so far naman on those 3mos regular mens ko and now nung nagka time pumunta sa OB ni recommend niya ko to use pills yung YAZ daw, so ngayon i'm starting to take pills..

sakin di pumalya, 7yrs kami mag bf/gf ni hubby on that we had our contact for almost 6yrs bago na buo si baby, nung na buo si baby choice na namin na i will get pregnant and ready na kami..pero those 6yrs withdrawal lang talaga gamit namin hehe..is that a luck?!
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: emzjoel on February 15, 2010, 11:47:14 pm

effective din sa amin, nung tinigil namin ang withrawal ayan nabuntis agad.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Jennifer Arenajo on February 18, 2010, 01:51:10 pm
withdrawal method din kami especially during my fertile days. We did it for 5yrs after my first born. Effective naman. Then we both decided to have our second baby and its a success naman, of course with prayers din. Kasi we both believe that everything is happening on HIS own way.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommy imee on March 11, 2010, 09:09:28 am
^ i agree with what you have said mommy jen!!
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommyonsale on March 11, 2010, 09:55:27 am
me too efective din sa amin ni hubby.. 1year and 8mos hindi p nsusundan c baby...
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommytoni29 on March 15, 2010, 11:23:04 am
sis ask ko lang kasi ang last menstruation ko feb. 5, tapos nung feb 9 & 10 withdrawal ang ginamit namin possible ba na mabuntis ako kasi ang alam ko safe pa ako nung feb 9 & 10 hanggang ngayon kasi hindi pa ako dinaratnan. pls. reply sis
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: J0 on March 17, 2010, 05:46:08 am
Hi,

Bro ako, pero, can I reply?  Usually, after menstruation startup pa lang ulit ng fertility cycle.  So, preparation stage pa lang uli.  I don't think you're pregnant.

Menstruation is like replacing the bedsheet (I just thought about this today ha so just bear with me a little). A woman's body starts to make a bed of blood inside her womb.  Then, about a week later (after the old bedsheet has been removed/menstruation), a veil of cervical mucus is sent out (4-5 fertile days) so that the groom (sperm) will be protected from the harsh acidic environment.  The bride will come out of her quarters to meet her groom.  If the groom does not arrive, she will sit on that bed for about 2 days.  Then she'll stop sending the veil and rest on that bed.  She'll leave the body with the next changing of that bedsheet.

One could not get pregnant if:
1. There is no groom (sperm)
2. There is no veil (slippery type of cervical mucus) to protect the groom.
3. There is no bedsheet for the couple (fertilized egg) to rest in

In your case, there may be no groom (withdrawal), no veil and no bedsheet.

(http://www.maybebaby.com.au/gallery/images/1144828120Cycle.jpg)

More about the fertility period at http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php?topic=9372.msg214811#msg214811 (http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php?topic=9372.msg214811#msg214811)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mOm_kawaii on April 26, 2010, 06:37:33 pm
Safe ba talaga ang withdrawal??
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Mommy_Cathz on April 26, 2010, 07:32:11 pm
Some says that it is safe and some says no... and it can lead to pregnancy. Sa case namin ng husband ko we use withdrawal, abstinence and condom... So far effective naman yun sa amin yung ganoong method.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: grace822 on April 26, 2010, 08:55:15 pm
i had this friend two babiesnya puro withdrawal babies... im scared nga din na baka masundan agad si  drake kasi 1 month and 3 weeks pa lang ako halos nangnganak two times na naiputok ni hubby sa loob ko and simula nung before april nag jerjer na kai withdrawal ee baka di dumating mens q :( kaya im not sure talaga sa withdrawal
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: michi247 on April 26, 2010, 09:00:31 pm
may kakilala din ko na 2 beses nabuntis daw sa withdrawal.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: yhamslove® on April 26, 2010, 09:05:59 pm
hi mOm_kawaii!

You can also check this site for further information:

withdrawal, how effective?
http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php?topic=7837.60
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: buchiki on April 26, 2010, 11:36:38 pm
Sa case namin, effective sya. We're using it for almost 6yrs na (including yung time na bf/gf pa lang kami... landi!) Pero di sya pumalya. After I gave birth, saka lang namin sinama yung calendar method. Takot din kasi kong masundan ang baby namin. 3yrs old na anak ko & wala pa ring kasunod. Ayaw ko ng condom e. Di ko mafeel ang excitment. Takot din ako sa side effects ng pills.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: grace822 on April 27, 2010, 08:37:44 am
Sa case namin, effective sya. We're using it for almost 6yrs na (including yung time na bf/gf pa lang kami... landi!) Pero di sya pumalya. After I gave birth, saka lang namin sinama yung calendar method. Takot din kasi kong masundan ang baby namin. 3yrs old na anak ko & wala pa ring kasunod. Ayaw ko ng condom e. Di ko mafeel ang excitment. Takot din ako sa side effects ng pills.




SAME HI SIS ayaw din kasi namin gumamit ng condom kahit na nag work si hubby before sa trust trina try lang namin mga new products nila about sa pills naman di kasi ako hiyang sa pills ng trust kaya scared talaga ako
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: buchiki on April 27, 2010, 10:26:17 pm
Sa case namin, effective sya. We're using it for almost 6yrs na (including yung time na bf/gf pa lang kami... landi!) Pero di sya pumalya. After I gave birth, saka lang namin sinama yung calendar method. Takot din kasi kong masundan ang baby namin. 3yrs old na anak ko & wala pa ring kasunod. Ayaw ko ng condom e. Di ko mafeel ang excitment. Takot din ako sa side effects ng pills.




SAME HI SIS ayaw din kasi namin gumamit ng condom kahit na nag work si hubby before sa trust trina try lang namin mga new products nila about sa pills naman di kasi ako hiyang sa pills ng trust kaya scared talaga ako

Have tried using pills na rin before. Kelangan since I have possible enometriosis. Polycystic kasi yung ovary ko. Advise nung ob para maregulate menstuation ko. Wala naman bad effect sa kin. Kuminis pa face & gumanda ang hair ko. But then I stop, aside sa takot ako sa side effects (pag matagal na ginagamit), di ko na rin kelangan. Wala si hubby e, OFW na.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: venice10 on November 05, 2010, 09:50:03 pm
super safe ba talaga yung sa onset ng mens? ganu ka effective ito? salamat :)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: J0 on November 16, 2010, 08:18:43 am
Haay mommy Venice10,

Iyan din ang tanong ng wife ko sa akin?

I'm starting to realize na marami or halos lahat sa atin ay hindi nabigyan ng tamang information about fertility and reproduction.  Bakit kaya?  Dahil kaya sa pinipigilan ng mga companies na gumagawa ng contraceptives na maging fully informed tayo about  our bodies?

Super safe sa onset ng mens. Messy, pero safe.  Excellent time for intimacy and bonding ng couple...especially pag may menstrual pain...okay sana kung maraming loving hugs and kisses.

Bakit safe?  Eh kasi end na nang cycle.  Yung egg na na-release about 14 days ago ay di na pwede at yung hinihigaan na bed of blood ay inilalabas na.

All the components of being pregnant is now being dismantled, removed from the body and the womb is being refreshed.  Kung may sperm na makapasok, patay sila agad sa acid.  Kasi mga 1.5 to 2 weeks pa uli bago magkaroon ng slippery-type na cervical mucus na nakakaprotect sa sperm.

Rule of thumb. Five (5) days lang of about 28 days possible na mabuntis.  So 23 out that 28 days, safe. Di kailangan mag-withdraw at maging apart from each other.  Pwedeng-pwede na mag all the way and be connected to each other, body and soul, until you reach the highest point.  That's self-giving love!


super safe ba talaga yung sa onset ng mens? ganu ka effective ito? salamat :)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: pinoytamil on February 27, 2011, 10:09:53 am
i hate it!
ewan mind set ko ata siguro tsaka super unsafe sya para sakin
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: jacque06 on February 28, 2011, 09:16:52 pm
ok naman sya... so far di pa kami pumapalya...
nasa tamang pag control lang naman siguro yan. even if there is a pre c*m, maliit yung chance na mabuo yun kasi it needs a lot of sperm cell para maka buo. Mga 5 kutsara dapat hehe joke lang..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommylala on March 02, 2011, 09:22:44 am
im glad to hear this topic too. i am a new member here in this parenting chat and everyday habit ko ng magbasa ng mga post dito ng mga mommies na kagaya ko. i would like to share my feelings or baka im just a little paranoid. im also a CS and my baby was only 4months old. its true sbi ng OB ideal gap to have my next baby is 3years above. i had my menstruation feb 16, 2011 that was Day1 and we had a contact Feb26 that was Day11. sbi kase ng OB ko hindi safe from Day 9 to 18. my husband is a soldier and he went home like every once in a month thats why i cant refuse nung nagsabi siya kahit a little bit hesitant to do it kase nga bawal that was day11 sbi ng OB wag. he withdraw it naman my next period will be on march 16 pa naman. siguro nga im just paranoid kase po im afraid to get pregnant again kase CS ako. Mga mommies pls give an advice para naman magkaroon ako ng peace of mind. thanks
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: ryuu on March 03, 2011, 02:24:50 pm
okay naman sa amin ni hubby yung withrawal.. 3 months na si baby.. so far so good naman.. hehe.. safe or unsafe period ko lagi kami withdrawal.. takot din kasi si husband na masundan kaagad si baby.. ;D
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: misyelicious on March 03, 2011, 02:38:04 pm
for me safe ang widrawal..eto ang gamit namin ni hubby since mag bf/gf palang kami (huli) aside sa condom.
ngayon eto pa ding 2 na to ang ginagamit namin para di kaagad ako mabuntis ulit.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: kuneha8 on March 03, 2011, 10:09:56 pm
sa akin di umepekto yan, nabuntis pa rin ako kay nag gumamit na lang ako ng mirena contraceptive
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: annie15 on March 03, 2011, 10:12:42 pm
not effective. i now have a 5 month old baby because of this method   :P
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Nuna on March 15, 2011, 09:21:53 am
mga sis, sobrang en-eng nanaman ng question ko. Paano ba pagbilang ng period? Yung last day ng period ba e yung huling huli na patak? Diba kase sa pahuli parang pinkish/brownish nalang sya.. hanggang dun ba ang pagbibilang nun? Masasabi bang "meron" ka pa kapag ganun nalang?
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: misha on April 19, 2011, 11:16:37 pm
April 1 is may first day of mens after giving birth to my first baby last Jan 12. Nagbreastfeed din ako for a month but need ko stop since magwork na ko at maiiwan baby sa province.

Since CS ako bawal contact for 3 months. We had contact last April 14, withdrawal din kami but sabi ko parang may lumabas sa loob kasi parang naramdaman ko un muscle control niya. sabi ni hubby wala naman daw sya nilabas sa loob pero until now paranoid pa rin ako. Our first baby kasi is due to miscalculation of calendar method. Sana this time wag muna ulit. 3 months pa lang baby ko huhu.  :-[
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: alltruehealthmom on July 27, 2011, 05:30:51 am
Not at all.. :) Kahit gumana yan sa isang buwan.. you can never really guarantee its effectiveness... kasi hindi talaga nakokontrol ng lalaki ang paglabas ng sperms niya... kahit pakiramdam niya walang naiwan.. no one will ever know... until magkaregla ka or magkababy ka... 50-50 lagi.. which is not a really good probability... :)
kaya we do withdrawal + pills + calendar method... para cover up lahat ng probability.. :D
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: bebezeth on July 27, 2011, 09:36:15 am
nakaya naman ng method na to for seven months sa amin so far effective
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: kuliglig^^ on August 26, 2011, 05:35:39 pm
Effective up to a certain time. Yung first pregnancy ko three years ago, pumalya si method dahil mali ang bilang ng days. Ngayong second pregnancy, pumalya dahil sadya atang may super "swimmers" si Hubby na nakalusot.  ;D
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: momofrainchira on August 26, 2011, 06:23:51 pm
widrawal kame ni hubby ko,4 yrs din ang gap ni eldest ko ke bunso, si bunso naman 2 yrs old na and widrawal parin kami ni hubby wala p kame balak sundan,so consistent kame sa widrawal na yan.but what i do talaga after giving birth nag pills muna ako hanggang maregular yung mens ko,then pag ok cycle ko stop nako pills,kase feeling ko mas madidisgrasya ako kung pills kase nga si kalimut din ako.
i gues nasa partner mo din kase kung marunong din talaga sya sa widrawal hindi ko alam iexplain pero kase si hubby ko marunong sya mag pigil and never naman din ako nadisgrasya sa precum na yan...hindi ko alam kung paano pero siguro merun talagang lalake na sensitive siguro kung lalabasan na or hindi or alam nila yung precum nila...
but im happy sa widrawal dahil never pa kame pumalya...unless mag decide ciguro kame na sundan na talaga...
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Shey♥Bry on September 12, 2011, 11:25:11 pm
Nakakatakot pong method ang Withdrawal.. Mas safe pa po mag Pills and Condom nalang po..

Yung sa eldest ko po I've waited 5 months before gumamit ng Pills and makipag make love ulet. Para mas safe po..

Tiis tiis lang po muna kasi malilibang naman po kayo ni hubby sa pag aalaga kay Baby :)


Use Contraceptives nalang po para mas safe.. Never tried withdrawal talaga.. Mahirap masundan agad si baby lalo na kung kakapanganak mo palang months or a year ago..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Bry♥Shey on September 13, 2011, 12:08:50 am
Not effective po itong method na ito dahil may tinatawag po tayong pre-c*m. so there is still a chance na pwedeng mabuntis si babae  :)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: J0 on September 14, 2011, 04:32:05 pm
Yehey!  Galing ng research!

"A study in Boston, Massachusetts, and another study in New York City examined samples of pre ejaculate fluid from HIV seropositive and HIV seronegative men to determine whether HIV was or was not present in pre ejaculate fluid. The researchers found macrophages and CD4 lymphocytes in most samples, indicating that HIV was present. The more significant finding, however, was that most pre ejaculate samples did not contain any sperm and those that did had only small clumps of a very small amount of sperm which seemed to be immobile. A larger study is needed to verify these results. If these results are confirmed, they may dispel the myth that pre ejaculate fluid contains sperm. "

Researchers find no sperm in pre-ejaculate fluid.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12286905
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommylala on September 15, 2011, 08:57:21 am
good news po yan pag nagkataon. ;)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: jenstelian on September 15, 2011, 02:01:39 pm
withdrawal kami so far ok naman...pero kapag gusto ni hubby na sa lood ilabas nag-condom kami siyempre...pero parang natakot naman ako sa iba n nabuntis sa withdrawal...ayaw ko ng magpills sakit sa ulo at baka lalo akong maging mataba..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: momofrainchira on September 15, 2011, 02:51:12 pm
bakit kaya ganun anoh?...effective sa amin ang widrawal while sa ibang couples hindi?...kung totoo nga yang research ni daddy jojo it means safe pala talaga yang method na yan,then why may nabubuntis?uhmmmm curious na ako dito...
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: techno_green on September 15, 2011, 04:18:27 pm
siguro kaya hinde effective sa iba because
1. irregular ang menstrual cycle
2. hinde ma control ng hubby ang right timing bago tangallin.

for me 2 year na namin ginagawa eto, effective naman...

ot: ang kaso 2 months ago pa namin trying to have  2nd baby ayaw naman mabuo. kahit regular ng cycle ni misis. we thought na stress at puyat adds up para hinde sya ma preggy.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommylala on September 15, 2011, 04:44:39 pm
siguro kaya nabubuntis because na-timing na may cervical mucus and kaya hindi ma preggy kase walng cervical mucus. thats why it is important to observe niyo ito.  ;)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: J0 on September 15, 2011, 05:17:39 pm
Hi jenstelian

Konti lang ang difference ng failure rate ng gumagamit ng condom sa nagwi-withdrawal.  Ang nabubuntis,  3 out of 100 kung perfect ang use ng Condom....3 out of 100, kung withdrawal.  Baka nga sa actual, mas mataas pa ang failure rate ng condom.  Ang condom kasi kailangan gawing manipis, para konti lang ang bawas sa sensitivity.  Mas manipis, mas madaling mabutas o mapunit.  Dahil gawa ito sa Latex, nasisira ito ng oil products (baby oil, petroleum jelly). 

Hi momofrainchira

Kaya siguro may nabubuntis pa rin sa withdrawal ay dahil depende ito sa control.  May mga in full control at may mga hindi.  Baka sinabi lang na nagwithdraw pero ang totoo nagstart na magejaculate sa loob bago nag-withdraw.

For everyone here, consider natin ang pinaka effective sa lahat...zero (0) ang failure rate.  Abstinence.  Di ba ibig lang sabihin nun ay wala lang penetration.  E di, be creative while intimate...siguro naman maraming sensual things to do with the one you love and you'll arrive on the same experience of pleasure

BIRTH CONTROL METHOD FAILURE RATES
BIRTH CONTROL METHOD      PERFECT USE (%)TYPICAL USE (%)
No Contraception8585
Consistent Abstinence00
Condom: Male314
Withdrawal419

BIRTH CONTROL METHOD      PERFECT USE (%)TYPICAL USE (%)
Fertility Awareness2-325
TwoDay Method414

Sources:
Contraceptive Methods Failure Rates
http://www.healthcenter.vt.edu/Resources/shc-online-docs/information-sheets/contra-fail-rate.pdf

Chapter 6. Models of sex in condom testing
http://www.utexas.edu/courses/bio301d/Topics/Condoms/Text.html




Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: momofrainchira on September 15, 2011, 11:08:46 pm
@ daddy jojo...

may point ka jan...actually observation ko sa amin ni hubby ko,when he says hes coming na ,pagtanggal niya hindi pa agad lumalabas mga ilang seconds pa,so i know walang nailabas sa loob,sigurado sya sa timing niya.so para satisfied pa rin naman sya pagka hugot i do some extra job...well tama lang siguro yung strategy namin...
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Shey♥Bry on September 17, 2011, 02:48:47 am
Meron lang sigurong mga babae na matagal bago mag conceive.. Just like me.. I'm currently 37weeks pregnant na. Nung gusto na naming sundan yung eldest namin. naghintay kami ni hubby ng almost 2 years without taking any contraceptives, not using condoms or withdrawal.. Wala namang problem sa health ko.. Wala din namang problem sa health ni hubby... Sa eldest naman namin, 1 year din bago nabuo..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: MommyMichell on September 17, 2011, 07:02:59 am
Mga 2 years din kami nagwithdrawal pero nung nalaman ng nanay ko na wala kami use birth control nawindang sya pinagpills niya ko, kung di mo pa gusto masundan agad si bunso the best pa rin magdecide ka na kung anong method use mo, katawan mo yan kaya dapat irespeto ng asawa mo desisyon mo, kung papabayaan lang natin sila mister e malamang halos lahat tayo may basketball team na :-)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: apple on September 17, 2011, 01:18:11 pm
^korak hehe...
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: J0 on September 17, 2011, 07:03:26 pm
Hi MommyMichell

Meron kayong Birth Control Method, Withdrawal.  From 81% to 96% effective.

Sa inyo, 100% effective for 2 years ang withdrawal, di ba? 
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: MommyMichell on September 18, 2011, 02:19:35 pm
Lol Daddy jojo yep tama ka, mali wording ko, what I meant was for 2 years wala akong contraceptive pills at never pa kami nagtry ng condom pero ayaw na din namin magtake chance, 6 years na ko nagte-take ng pills
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: momofrainchira on September 18, 2011, 03:54:24 pm
@mommy mrs shiela tan :yeah i believe may mga babaeng ganyan like may SIL...tagal na sila bumubuo pero walang mabuo.
while kame naman ni hubby once nag decide kame nag stop sa widrawal buo agad..yan nga si bunso namin...isang gabi lang,ofcourse we both know na fertile ako nun, at sigurado kameng mabubuo...so as we expected the next month delayd na nga ako...

thats why im still curious why hindi effective ang widrawal sa iba...well i dont know,gusto ko lang sana na mabigyan ng klaro yung widrawal na yan parang mas safe sa health kase kung wala kang kung ano mang tintetake or sinusuot na plastik/latex...haha...sana...
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Shey♥Bry on September 19, 2011, 12:09:57 am
@mommy mrs shiela tan :yeah i believe may mga babaeng ganyan like may SIL...tagal na sila bumubuo pero walang mabuo.
while kame naman ni hubby once nag decide kame nag stop sa widrawal buo agad..yan nga si bunso namin...isang gabi lang,ofcourse we both know na fertile ako nun, at sigurado kameng mabubuo...so as we expected the next month delayd na nga ako...

thats why im still curious why hindi effective ang widrawal sa iba...well i dont know,gusto ko lang sana na mabigyan ng klaro yung widrawal na yan parang mas safe sa health kase kung wala kang kung ano mang tintetake or sinusuot na plastik/latex...haha...sana...


Oo nga Mommy eh, yan din iniisip ko. bakit sa iba ang bilis nila makabuo once na hindi nila sinunod yung mga method na ginagamit nila dati , yung iba naman matagal bago makabuo kahit walang ginagamit na mga contraceptives or kahit anong method..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: momofrainchira on September 20, 2011, 05:15:03 pm
 kaya tumigil ako agad mag pills eh,kase hindi ko malaman yung mga nararamdaman ko,nung nakunan ako inadvice yan ng ob ko at sinunod ko naman, kahit anong palit ko hindi ko anhanap yung ginhawa kaya i stop nalang...and marami rina ko narinig at nabasa na about side effects ng pills...
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: orangejamgirl12 on October 01, 2011, 08:45:41 am
sa min ni hubby, effective naman so far. when we got married kasi last year , plan namin the year after pa kami magtry magbuntis. withdrawal lang kami.  and nung dumating nga yung 2011, dun na kami nagtry. after 2 months, nabuntis na ko. and thankful talaga ko kay Lord for this blessing. :)

control lang talaga especially kay hubby.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: -joanamber- on October 12, 2011, 02:17:58 pm
Not effective. I am one of the victims. :D
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Aicha on October 12, 2011, 02:57:22 pm
di ko alam. haha! 2yrs. kaming withdrawal lang di naman pumalya, kaya nabuo si baby dahil sobrang lasing kami pareha galing sa birthday ng brother in law ko.. kaya we've learned our lesson! haha!  :)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: purple_maine on October 14, 2011, 03:41:52 pm
hi mommies, share ko lang: sa amin effective ang withdrawal kasi talagang kontrolado ni mister e. Nasa lalake talaga yan kung mabubuntis ka kasi nga pag hindi nila napigilan go na yun..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommyitelity on October 17, 2011, 12:54:01 am
hi po mga sis.. bago lang po ako dito.. tagal ko na gusto mag member pero ngaun lang ako nka pag register. anyway.. nabasa ko po lahat ng comments nyo.. especially kay daddy jojo.. ask ko lang po kung may chance kaya ako mabuntis kasi wala po ako ginagamit na method na kahit ano  kung hindi widrawal lang.. nag do po kame oct 14 and 16.. ang last mens ko po ay oct 5 - 9.. my posibility po ba? kaka 1 yr old lang po kasi ng baby ko and full breastfeed po ako:) thanks po
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Aicha on October 17, 2011, 12:08:42 pm
natural birth control ang exclusive breasfeeding kaya di ka agad agad mabubuntis  :) yung iba jan na exclusive BF di gumagamit ng birth control.. pero ako para sure nagpapa inject ako ng depo... mahirap na.. hehe, para sure  ;)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommyitelity on October 17, 2011, 12:15:19 pm
ang pag kakaalam ko po kasi ay 6 months lang po ata yung breastfeed para maging effective as contraceptives.. kaso lang po 1 yr and 1 month na po ako nag bbreastfeed.. nd ko alm kung effective pa din yun.. widrawal lang ginagamet namen.. ano sa tingin mo mommy? :)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: momofrainchira on October 17, 2011, 01:20:44 pm
@mommytel : depende kase sa cycle mo yan ...ako kase after mens ko 5 days akong safe 6 days up naku delikado nako nun...so talagng kabisado mo dapat cycle mo...widrawal kame ni hubby walang palya pa...
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: chococream on October 17, 2011, 01:56:14 pm
sis worried ka talaga might as well go to your OBGYNE and ask kung ano ang best mo na magagamit just in case negative ang result after a month. effective ang withrawal if regular and precise yong cycle mo sis pero meron din kasing pre-ejaculation kung tawagin. marami din kasi instances dahil sa pre-ejaculation kung enough ang sperm dun to fertilize the egg mabubuntis ka pa rin.

i use kasi for me is depo ayoko mag.risk  kaya i make sure to have my shot every 3months if andito si mister, and if not wala din akong contraceptives, rest ang body ko for that.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Aicha on October 17, 2011, 03:25:51 pm
oo nga sis.. dapt saulo mo rin yung cycle mo... effective naman withrawal pero nasa lalake yan, dapat kontrolado niya.. totoo yun kasi nung wala pa kaming baby withrawal lang kami for 2yrs.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommyitelity on October 18, 2011, 12:47:04 am
thank you po mga mommies sa reply :) hindi ko po kasi kabisado ang cycle ko, meron po kasing 28 days, 29 days, 30 days ang hanggang 33 days.. so hindi ko alm kung pano un? ask ko naman c hubby about sa ejaculation, nararamdaman naman daw niya yun.. nag woworied ako, kasi widrawal din kame noon nung nabuo namen c baby.. and tinanong ko si hubby  kung nararamdamn niya ejaculation, bket nabuo si baby ng hindi inaasahan..he told me na sadya daw niya yun.. i dont know! pero sa tingin ko, hindi niya sadya yun.. haha..grabe talaga ang takot ko.. baka masundan ulit.. wag naman sana..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: J0 on October 18, 2011, 09:51:39 am
Hi mommyitelity

Sana hindi lang ikaw ang concerned sa ganito.  Ang essence ng pag-aasawa ay pag-uusap, pagsasama at pagharap na nagtutulungan sa lahat ng aspeto  ng inyong buhay.  Dapat isine-share mo sa kaniya at maging involved siya sa mga nangyayari sa body mo...sa iyong fertility, aside from menstruation.  Kung gusto niyang magka-baby kayo, eh di sabihin niya rin sa iyo at hindi iyang pagkatapos na ang lahat ng hirap ng pagbubuntis at panganganak ay sasabihin na "sadya" niya.


Effective ang Withdrawal, up to 96% .  Pero very essential dito ang communication at consideration.  Mahirap kung magiging selfish ang husband at sariling pleasure lang niya ang iisipin niya.  Sana pagtulungan ninyong alamin at pag-aralan ang human fertility o kung kelan lang pwedeng mabuntis.  Marami na akong na-post tungkol dito.  Medyo nakailang restatement na ako at nahihiya na ako sa moderators dito sa haba ng mga post ko.  Heto ang pinakamadali na Natural Family Planning: Two-Day Method (http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,20910.0.html),  (http://).  Sana kayong dalawa ng husband mo ang mag-set aside ng time para matutunan at subukan ito.

Abstinence (100% effective) is always the best option ha.  Pwede naman ibahin at maging mas creative ang expression natin ng love!


Walang sperm ang pre-ejaculate fluid

"A study in Boston, Massachusetts, and another study in New York City examined samples of pre ejaculate fluid from HIV seropositive and HIV seronegative men to determine whether HIV was or was not present in pre ejaculate fluid. The researchers found macrophages and CD4 lymphocytes in most samples, indicating that HIV was present. The more significant finding, however, was that most pre ejaculate samples did not contain any sperm and those that did had only small clumps of a very small amount of sperm which seemed to be immobile. A larger study is needed to verify these results. If these results are confirmed, they may dispel the myth that pre ejaculate fluid contains sperm. "

Researchers find no sperm in pre-ejaculate fluid.(1993)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12286905


BIRTH CONTROL METHOD FAILURE RATES
BIRTH CONTROL METHOD      PERFECT USE (%)TYPICAL USE (%)
No Contraception8585
Consistent Abstinence00
Withdrawal419

BIRTH CONTROL METHOD      PERFECT USE (%)TYPICAL USE (%)
Fertility Awareness2-325
TwoDay Method414

Sources:
Contraceptive Methods Failure Rates
http://www.healthcenter.vt.edu/Resources/shc-online-docs/information-sheets/contra-fail-rate.pdf


OT: Tungkol sa paggamit ng pills, injectables at iba pang artificial birth control

Karamihan po ng artificial birth control ngayon ay hindi na simpleng contraceptive kundi ABORTIFACIENT. 

Yung content na nakakapigil para mag-meet ang sperm at egg (Synthetic Estrogen) ay lowered na ang dosage at minsan pa nga, inaalis na ("Morning-After Pills").  Hindi kasi mabenta at maraming nadi-disappoint sa tindi at dami ng side effects ng chemical na ito.  Dahil sa lowered dosage or absense nito, nagkakaroon ng fertilization/conception...nakakabuo po ng baby! 

Ang main chemical content na ginagamit ngayon ay Synthetic Progesterone.  Nakatago ang mga chemicals na ito sa iba'-ibang pangalan ha.  Pero malaman natin ito.  Pakibasa po ang product insert ng inyong brand, mababasa po ninyo, thins the lining of the uterus.  Ibig sabihin nito, pagbaba ng baby natin sa matris, maghahanap siya ng makakapitan...dahil thinnned o pinatuyo ito...nalalaglag siya at namamatay!

Sana po makatulong tayo para matigil na ang Chemical Abortion dahil sa paggamit ng artificial birth control.  Please uphold the life of the unborn.

"Depotrust stops ovulation, thins the lining of the uterus and thickens the cervical mucus. In combination, these actions prevent pregnancy." Source: Depotrust Full Product Information from MIMS Philippines (http://www.mims.com.ph/Philippines/drug/info/Depotrust/Depotrust%20depot%20inj?type=full#Contraindications)
For my full comment on this, please go to: Re: Depotrust by Daddy Jojo (http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,5838.msg394429.html#msg394429)

Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommylala on October 18, 2011, 11:24:55 am
@Daddy Jojo: Is that confirmed already? no sperm on pre-ej.? I wonder bakit may mga nabubuntis pa din ano po? siguro they say na they withdraw but the real thing is hindi. and siguro natatapatan din na fertile yung girl especially if they were not aware of it.

Mommies, I would highly recommend yung Two Day Method plus withdrawal.:) Effective siya sa amin. Yun nga lang you would require to take down all the  discharge that you were experiencing para maging accurate at hindi pumalya ;)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: J0 on October 18, 2011, 11:58:47 am
Hi mommylala

Oo, baka nga ang failure rate sa withdrawal ay dahil sa hindi sinasabi na may na-deposit sa loob.

Pero hindi ko ini-endorse ang Withdrawal.

Dapat ay complete ang self-giving love ng husband and wife.  Hindi dapat pinipigilan o hino-hold back.

The husband and wife should fully connect and be one.  That's the essence of marriage.  Dapat sa loob ang release.  Dapat din na ang wife ay makapag-orgasm din.

Magagawa ito kung fully aware ang couple kung kailan hindi fertile at pwede nilang ma-express ang kanilang love, desire, passion to each other...through sexual intercourse.



Ang gamit na namin ngayon ay Porsuelo's SymptoThermal Method.  Every morning, I take my wife's temperature and record everything (including Cervical Mucus observation and others)...in an STM Chart.  We're on our third month na.  Kung may time ako, gusto ko mag-share ng blank chart at magturo ng procedure.

Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: MommyMichell on October 18, 2011, 01:41:03 pm
hi Daddy Jojo, ask ko lang po kung ilan na kids nyo at kung planned po ba mga pregnancies? Thanks!
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: J0 on October 18, 2011, 02:06:23 pm
Hi MommyMichell

We only have one child, a daughter who is now 8 years old.  Yes, planned siya...pero di pa naman kami ganoon ka-completely informed about Natural Family Planning noon.   Mas ang credit siguro eh prayers to God at sa careful discernment namin ng wife ko. 

We only desired for one child, a daughter.  Our prayer was grated and so we stopped having more children.  We continued expressing our love and passion towards each other as husband and wife.

Now that we are more informed, we are further empowered and have no worries about anything.

Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: MommyMichell on October 18, 2011, 02:18:17 pm
wow ang galing naman po, so far ano po maire-recommend nyong effective family planning method na natry nyo na po?
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommyjanice on October 18, 2011, 04:34:43 pm
It's a big no,no...Si Ińigo ko ang living proof.hehe..Try na lang other ways.. Kahit sabihin nating na kay hubby ang control, ang Pre c*m, di yan makokontrol, kahit ganu pa kagaling..Just my POV lang po..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mumzeth on November 01, 2011, 08:37:06 pm
 withdrawal? dito ako nagkaron ng unplanned pregnancy.. :(
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommyJQ on November 01, 2011, 09:17:12 pm
Hindi effective samin to. Dito nabuo yung youngest namin na si Jodee. ;D Calendar method na kami ngayon. :)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommyitelity on December 13, 2011, 12:04:38 am
mga sis, tanong ko lang, base on calendar method, fertile ako ngayon. nag do kame ni huby ngaun pang 14th day ko pa naman simula ng nag ka 1st mens ako. nag widrawal naman kame. my question is, pag fertile ba tapos nag do sure na ba na mabubuntis kahit nag widrawal? answer po mga sis? thanks
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: LLLA on December 13, 2011, 05:41:51 am
It depends po kung may naka-escape na sperm while doing the withdrawal sis... usually naman wala..

Pero yung 1st baby ko nabuo dahil sa withrawal.. ;D
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Mommy Jazz on December 13, 2011, 11:19:13 am
pag fertile ba tapos nag do sure na ba na mabubuntis kahit nag widrawal? answer po mga sis? thanks

There's a high possiblility.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommylala on December 13, 2011, 02:48:18 pm
i agree on Mommyjazz, may possibility sis
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommyitelity on December 13, 2011, 11:57:13 pm
naku mga sis patay tayo jan. natatakot nanaman ako.. pang 14th day ko pa naman kahappon nung nag do kame. 3x kameng nag do pero widrawal naman lahat. pero mga sis, nag check din ako ng mucus, parang hindi naman ako fertile kahapon kasi sticky sya. hindi ko tuloy alam kung two day method ba or caendar method or widrawal susundin ko.. need ko po help nyo mga sis.. baket ganun pang 14th day ko kahapon base on calendar method pero bat ganun mucus ko.. white na white ang sticky sya..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Mommy Jazz on December 14, 2011, 09:13:24 am
Hindi effective and reliable ang withdrawal. If you are using NFP (Natural Family Planning) I don't think it would matter whether there's withdrawal or not. Pero kung sa calendar ninyo says you're fertile, then there is a chance na mabuo nga. There are few Mommies here (like me) who can testify na sa ganito nabuo ang anak nila.


Better to check with an expert on calendar method. Go ask your doctor po. Kasi alam ko there is no single calendar or counting made to fit all users. Someone here even posted that you can know your exact calendar by getting the average of 3 months cycle and not just based on your last month's cycle. Who knows, yung akala niyong araw na fertile kayo ay hindi pala. Keep observing your body and discharge. If you're using the 2 day method, check Daddy Jojo's thread to see if you really are fertile on that day.
http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,20910.0.html (http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,20910.0.html)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommyitelity on December 14, 2011, 12:12:44 pm
thanks sis mmmyjazzzs
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: leegirl on March 24, 2012, 12:18:54 am
kinakabahan tuloy ako habang nagbaback read.. withdrawal kasi gamit namin ni bf eh, me nabasa din ako na hindi nga sya effective.. exclusive BF pa si baby ngaun, 8 months na sya.. hehe, madalas kasi pagihi ko ngaun eh.. un yung sintomas ko dati nung 1st pregnancy ko.. hhuhuh. antulis pa ng tyan ko.. pero confident naman si mister na hndi ako preggy. pero kinakabahan pa din ako.. huhuhuh :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: charmed0304 on March 24, 2012, 12:13:38 pm

@angelicanery:
naku sis kahit confident si hubby, mas alam mu kung preggy ka ba or hindi.. ikaw mas nakakaalam sa katawan mu..
and as what they say, hindi talaga effective ang withdrawal method.. Sa POV ko, hindi rin masyado effective calendar method.. kasi iba iba naman menstrual cycle ng babae..ako nga minsan 28 days, minsan 30days or pataas.. mahirap din talaga madetermine..
Iba-iba tayo ng POV and iba-iba tayo ng experiences so you can't really say what's good for you ,is also good for me.. I'm not against NFP, actually ok nga sana sya kaso mahirap makasiguro..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: abz22 on June 05, 2012, 08:49:28 am
hindi to effective.. dalawang beses na kami pumalya..  :o super confident din si hubby noon na wala daw.. ayun, bagsak ang confidence level niya!! hahaha!

lahat na ata ng NFP (yung alam ko lang naman) natry ko.. pero dahil irregular ako, hirap talaga kami..  :'(
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: ainsley_leen on June 05, 2012, 07:15:33 pm
hai.. mga sissies..

gusto ko lang sanang malamang kung sino dito yung successful with it comes sa method na withdrawal as in walang ibang gingamit.. na condom or pills purely withdrawal na tumagal . I mean na hindi talaga nabuntis unless gustuhin nilang magkababy... kami kasi ni hubby eh withdrawal lang talga ang gamit ayaw niya daw kasing gumamit ng condom hindi daw kasi enjoy ayaw din naman niya akong painumin ng pills kasi daw baka may mga side effects daw pa yun at least daw yung withdrawal ... safe.. at hindi pa kami gagastos.. wala naman daw kasi akong dapat ipagalala kasi expert naman daw siya pagdating sa ganun.. which is napatanuyan ko na naman ,,, its been 8 months since nung ipinanganak ko yung baby namin and from nung birth  niya withdrawal lang gamit namin....

anyone here ??? na may experience na ... as in purely withdrawal lang ang gamit nila....
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Mrs. Anderson on June 05, 2012, 07:21:21 pm
Merged with existing thread.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mylittlegabriel on June 05, 2012, 10:23:22 pm
sis ainsley_leen, kami po ni hubby pure withdrawal kame..to think na buntisin pako, heheh! I mean yung baby namin, 1st try namin yan and nabuo kaagad sya 2 mons after we got married..marunong din kasi si hubby ko and hindi naman ako gumagamit ng pills kasi we would want a natural birth control dahil yun din ang turo sa community namen..1year and mag mag3mons na yung baby namen and hindi pa muna namen plan sundan in the near future...so far normal naman ang menstruation ko and minsan nadedelay lang ng few days...withdrawal padin kame until now..hopefully kahit sa iba hindi successful, eh samen (and sayo din) maging effective..sabi kasi ni hubby usually daw sa kanya, aware sya yung sinasabi na pre-c*m kaya alam niya yung right time na iwithdraw... :)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: studentmom on June 05, 2012, 11:56:34 pm
successful?
hiindi ata kami successful sa withdrawal..
more than 3 years na kaming widraw, pero may nakalusot..
ayun nagkababy.. pero after manganak up to now, (almost 2 years) hindi naman pumapalya.. di din kasi kami ngcacalendar method eh.. di kasi ako palatandain sa date ng menstrations ko.. katamad.. haha..
ayoko din mag pills..
sana nga mag tuloy tuloy at di ako mabuntis..
pag ako nabuntis di na makakagraduate.. huhu..
ayaw naman namin un.. sa hirap ng buhay, dapat 2 kami magwowork..
tsk..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: leegirl on June 11, 2012, 04:30:25 pm
hi mommies! kami withdrawal kami ni boyfie, last month lang ako nagkaron ulit ng mens. kasi EBF ako e. hehe sana di pumalya. pero balak na namin magpills. kaso walng time eh. hehe
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: FV's mom on June 13, 2012, 04:24:37 pm
kame din ni hubby.. widrawal  ;)

dati effective sya.. kasi for 3years hindi naman ako nabuntis..

pero now hindi na effective.. 1year and 1month na si baby.. eh I am 2months preggy.. hehe..

EBF kasi ako for 8months then after that sa gabi na lang ng BF si baby.. so ayun na preggy na ako..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: abz22 on June 13, 2012, 04:32:00 pm
^ hindi na siguro nasanay si hubby sis..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: abz22 on June 13, 2012, 05:03:23 pm
^ oo nga. diba nga nagkita pa tayo s isang thread.. hahaha.. kasi nagkakamali talaga ang withdrawal..  :P
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: BlueAby on June 29, 2012, 12:51:50 pm
Sis kami ni withdrawal ni hubby kaso may concern po ako. Di kasi ako safe today but we do it. then withdrawal lang si Mister. On our second do.. napigilian ko si Mister ko to withdraw kasi mabibitin na naman ako, di ko alam na may lalabas na pala. So un, di niya tuloy nai-alis bago niya mailabas. Namomroblema kasi kami baka mabuntis na naman ako. Is there any way ba para makasigurado na walang mabubuo? or posible po na may mabuo po talaga dun?
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: danel_em on July 02, 2012, 11:15:57 pm
naku BlueAby, medyo critical ang nangyari sayo ah. unsafe naman kung magtatake ka ng pills kasi baka may nabuo na and it may harm the developing embryo. best way talaga is if unsafe eh no contact muna with your hubby :) dont worry kung may mabuo man, hindi naman ibibigay sa inyo ni God yan kung hindi nyo kaya ang consequences :) A baby is a blessing so just cheer up and be positive whether it developed or not ;)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: abz22 on July 03, 2012, 02:37:57 pm
^Yes I agree. kung sakali na may mabuo man, God has a purpose. :)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: fairytink on July 20, 2012, 03:48:11 pm
kami ni hubby withdrawal, 3.5 na daughter namin di pa din nasusundan so I think effective naman sa amin  ;)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Nathan27 on July 20, 2012, 04:25:32 pm
sa amin ni hubby effective din ang method na ito.
after giving birth.. eto na lang ginamit namin. ayaw niya ng ibang cotraceptives.
10 months & 3 weeks na baby ko.
I
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: mommy irene on September 20, 2012, 02:52:08 pm
effective sa amin ni hubby ito..

nagsama kami ng almost 3 yrs then when we got married and  hubby decided na magbaby na kami dun lang kami nag buo.. then after 2 yrs ulit, ito nga nagbuntis ako, though unplanned, ok pa din ang withdrawal sa amin.. never ako nagtake ng pills - either withdraw si hubby OR calendar (natural) method kami..

as in ingat lang din kami sa safe at unsafe period ko..
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: ayahbelle on September 25, 2012, 03:10:08 pm
so far , sakin din effective ang withdrawal. 1.6 old nadin ang baby ko di pa naman nasusundan. siguro nasa husband na natin yun hehe.. :)) di naman  100% safe na di ka mabubuntis, pero safe ka sa mga side effects.
Yung sa mga gagamit ng contraceptives advice ko lang na magpatingin sa OB. o kaya pa check sa health center.
Kasi ako before nireresetahan sa center ng pills pero di ako nabigyan kasi nga sa sobrang taba ko. Siguro kasi my ibang pills na talagang nakakataba din. Yun sa injectibles naman marami nagsasabi n my side effects at sumasablay din.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: dhates on September 25, 2012, 05:03:15 pm
my OB said she would not give me any pills I remember sabi pa niya di niya daw ako rerecommend ng kahit anong pills baka daw magka cancer pa ako masisi ko pa sya, di ko na pina elaborate sa kanya that time kasi wala naman ako balak mag pills talaga, what I think now is baka iba iba talaga effects ng pills per user so kung hindi hiyang sayo may mga possibilities for illness nga like cancer. Billing ovulation method ang tinuro niya samin though hindi ko pa nababasa ng todo ang intindi ko lang and base sa explanation ni OB basta nag oovulate ka no contact the rest of the days pwede. Nag oovulate daw kapag may lumalabas sayo na sticky white like eggwhite hindi mo naman daw maimiss yun ang true mapapansin mo talaga pag meron usually it lasts 3 days after 2 weeks darating period mo. pero yung pagdating nung ovulation ang di mo masasabi. based sa experience ko after ko manganak 1 month lang dumating na period ko then binabantayan ko na yung ovulation na yun, hindi nga siya regular dumating nung 1st months ko pero sakto paglabas niya after 2 weeks may period na nga ako. i remember after ng 2nd period ko (as in right after) nagovulate ako so sabi ko pa hindi pala reliable yun kasi kakatapos ko pa lang alangan naman magkaron ako ulit, well I was wrong 2 weeks after meron nga ulit ako (I was consistent na regular ang period ko before pregnancy) then after that period 1 month naman bago ako nagovlulate ulit kabado na nga ako nung kasi nakapag do na kami ni hubby e since naka 1 month na wala pa period so delayed na but here comes may ovulation so nagtry ako maghintay ng 2 weeks then ayun nagka period ako, ngayon 2 months na regular na ovulation and mens period ko. This is a natural method and sabi nga ni OB pag natural daw feeling ng iba nadydyeta sila pero hindi naman kasi during dun sa ovulation lang bawal e ilang days lang yun before and after that safe ka, check ka lang talaga pag wet ang feeling mo yun malamang magoovulate ka na nun or nag oovulate ka na so iwas iwas muna if your not ready, as per OB meron din daw ways dun kung gusto mo na magkababy ng boy or girl mataas naman daw effectivity rate pero syempre God's will pa din kung ano ibibigay sa inyo.

@daddy jojo - kakatakot naman yung research mo na yun possible pala na madaming nag aabort na hindi namamalayan ng ibang mommies.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: karlandkadi on September 29, 2012, 05:53:43 pm
joining, newbie here:

hi mga sis, kami ni hubby withdrawal method. sa tagal naman hindi pa kami pumalya.. kasi yung panganay ko 5 yrs old na, then yung bunso ko 9 mos palang, medyo malayo ang gap nila.. effective naman siya sa amin. basta matandaan ko lang ang date ng period ko hehe. ;)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: KClaire on November 01, 2012, 11:47:07 am
so, daddy Jojo, ok pala talaga ang withdrawal? ganyan din kasi kami ni hubby. and nagrerely din minsan ako dito sa fertility calendar ng SP .. :)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: J0 on November 01, 2012, 02:43:51 pm
@KClaire

Noon pa maraming successful sa withdrawal.  Wala lang talagang explanation before. Ang laging usapan ay yung pre-ejaculatory fluid, na sinasabing meron daw sperm.

Ngayon, may proof na.  Oo, merong sperm, pero madalas ay di buhay...kaya di mabubuntis.

Kailangan lang siguro malinaw at sincere ang mag-asawa towatds each other tungkol sa kung nakapag-withdraw nga ba talaga ng full.  Baka kasi may mga husband na di kabisado ang body function o control nila at sabihin na "Oo, na-withdraw ko lahat" pero baka di totoo at ayaw lang ng mahabang usapan (kung di pala niya na-control).

Okay na alternative ang withdrawal kung fertile days.  Pero sana, kung hindi naman fertle eh laging gawing full experience ng couple ang sex...this means na pati ang wife dapat hanggang orgasm din.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: KClaire on November 01, 2012, 03:01:45 pm
thanks Daddy Jojo.  :)


agree ako dito ►
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Okay na alternative ang withdrawal kung fertile days.  Pero sana, kung hindi naman fertle eh laging gawing full experience ng couple ang sex...this means na pati ang wife dapat hanggang orgasm din.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: pinoytamil on November 18, 2012, 11:53:20 pm
dati super hate ko ang withdrawal na to feeling ko ang bastos at inis na inis din ako sa method na to kasi dati nabibitin ako sa ganitong method  pero now i got used to it tapos 2yrs old na baby ko hindi pa din sya nasusundan so palagay ko effectve ang ganitong method if done properly.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: eloytski on November 19, 2012, 01:03:42 pm
After I gave birth, withdrawal ang method namin ni hubby. Pero when I had my check up with the OB, hindi niya to in-advise kasi it's not 100% effective dahil nga sa pre-ejaculation na may taglay na ring sperm cells. So I got the injectables.  ;)
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Mommy Jazz on November 19, 2012, 04:01:21 pm
Walang sperm ang pre-ejaculate fluid  Dahil sa bagong development na ito, posible na hindi mabubuntis kung nag-withdrawal.

"The more significant finding, however, was that most pre ejaculate samples did not contain any sperm and those that did had only small clumps of a very small amount of sperm which seemed to be immobile. A larger study is needed to verify these results. If these results are confirmed, they may dispel the myth that pre ejaculate fluid contains sperm. "


Since the study says "most p-e samples..." I guess my husband belongs to "least" group of those having "mobile" ones. Diyan kasi nabuo ang panganay namin. I hope when they get to make a larger study na so it can finally dispel the myth. But as of now, I don't think we can be confident to say na wala ngang active sperm ang p-e fluid.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: J0 on November 21, 2012, 07:28:52 am
Hi Mommyjazz

Thank you for your comment.  It made me look for current studies on Withdrawal. Here's what I've been reading so far:

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Some participants believed that withdrawal is not reliable because pre-ejaculate fluid contains viable sperm—a belief that has not been supported by research.24

24. Zukerman Z, Weiss DB and Orvieto R, Does preejaculatory penile secretion originating from Cowper’s gland contain sperm? Journal of Assisted Reproduction and Genetics, 2003, 20(4):157–159.

Withdrawal Attitudes and Experiences: A Qualitative Perspective Among Young Urban Adults.  Whittaker, Paul G.; Merkh, Rebecca D.; Henry-Moss, Dare; Hock-Long, Linda. Perspectives on Sexual & Reproductive Health. Jun2010, Vol. 42 Issue 2, p102-109.


"pre-ejaculate fluid contains viable sperm—a belief that has not been supported by research" is consistent with the statement about "the myth that pre ejaculate fluid contains sperm." (http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,9372.msg862600.html#msg862600)

Those who are reading this might ask, "How's Withdrawal Method related to this topic of Calendar Method?"

Well, when you have identified the non-safe or fertile days in your fertility cycle...you have another option, other than not having sex (Abstention)...and this is Withdrawal Method.

I personally believe that a wife should equally be able to express her passion and sexual desire towards the one she loves...in the same way that her husband is able to fully achieve this expression.  Her fertile days are her most sensual days...the best time for her to achieve full sexual experience.

In short:
Safe Days -> Full sexual expression for both husband and wife (no need for Withdrawal, both can reach orgasm)
Non-safe/fertile Days -> Withdrawal Method for Husband, but full sexual experience for the wife (ex. Multiple Orgasms)

Aside from procreation, our bodies are created to become one with our spouse.  Sexual intercourse is a complete expression of self-giving love.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: J0 on November 22, 2012, 04:17:59 am
Kahit naka Depo-provera injectible, nabubuntis pa rin. Dahil ang Depo-Provera ay isang uri ng Progestogen...pinaninipis nito ang matris...naalaglag ang baby (Abortifacient, Chemical Abortion).  Ito ang reason kaya nakakaramdam ng pregnancy sympoms at nagkakaroon ng irregular bleeding.

Kung mabuhay ang baby, magkakaroon ng foetal abnormalities.

Lastly, Progestogen-only contraceptives are listed as Group 2A in the list of CANCER-causing agents.  Ka-group ito ng Potassium Bromate na pinagbawal nang ihalo sa pandesal.

Heto ang product information ng Depo-Provera,from its manufacturer, Pfizer:
http://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=522

Highights from Pfizer.com:
WARNING: LOSS OF BONE MINERAL DENSITY. Cancer Risks: Breast Cancer. Cervical Cancer. Other Cancers. Ectopic Pregnancy. jaundice or acute or chronic disturbances of liver function. Convulsions. Depression. Bleeding Irregularities. Weight Gain. fertility is likely to be delayed. ADVERSE REACTIONS: Headache, Abdominal pain/discomfort, Increased weight> 10lbs at 24 months, Nervousness, Dizziness, Libido decreased. Menstrual irregularities: (bleeding (57.3% at 12 months, 32.1% at 24 months), amenorrhea



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Contains medroxyprogesterone; Belongs to the class of progestogens. Pregnancy Category (US FDA). Category X: Studies in animals or human beings have demonstrated foetal abnormalities or there is evidence of foetal risk based on human experience or both, and the risk of the use of the drug in pregnant women clearly outweighs any possible benefit. The drug is contraindicated in women who are or may become pregnant.

Source:http://www.mims.com/Philippines/drug/info/Depo-Provera/?q=Depo-Provera

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Pregnancies diagnosed during Depo-Provera use. By: Borgatta, Lynn; Murthy, Amitasrigowri; Chuang, Cynthia; Beardsley, Leah; Burnhill, Michael S. Contraception. Sep2002, Vol. 66 Issue 3, p169. 4p.

Subjects: CONTRACEPTION -- Failures; MEDROXYPROGESTERONE

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2009 Jan;35(1):59-60.
Contraceptive failure of Depo-Provera: long-acting reversible contraceptive (LARC) methods do fail too.
Farmer L, Patel E.
Source: United Bristol Healthcare Trust (UBHT), Bristol Sexual Health Centre, Central Health Clinic, Bristol, UK. lucinda.farmer@ubht.nhs.uk

Injectables CONs:

1.) Karamihan ay tumataba dahil sa pagbabago ng appetite at metabolism.  >:(
2.) Sa ibang babae, dumadami ang pimples. Sa iba naman paisa isa lang ang labas, pero malalaki!  >:(
3.) Mood swings.
4.) You may be at a higher risk of bone loss.
5.) It can cause irregular bleeding to other women.
6.) Loss of libido
7.) preggy symptoms.



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Agents Classified by the IARC Monographs, Volumes 1–106
source: http://monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Classification/index.php
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Agents Classified by the IARC Monographs, Volumes 1–106, pages 14 and 26
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Paki-update na lang po natin ang ating OB regarding the latest research.
Walang sperm ang pre-ejaculate fluid  Dahil sa bagong development na ito, posible na hindi mabubuntis kung nag-withdrawal.

"The more significant finding, however, was that most pre ejaculate samples did not contain any sperm and those that did had only small clumps of a very small amount of sperm which seemed to be immobile. A larger study is needed to verify these results. If these results are confirmed, they may dispel the myth that pre ejaculate fluid contains sperm. "


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Some participants believed that withdrawal is not reliable because pre-ejaculate fluid contains viable sperm—a belief that has not been supported by research.24

24. Zukerman Z, Weiss DB and Orvieto R, Does preejaculatory penile secretion originating from Cowper’s gland contain sperm? Journal of Assisted Reproduction and Genetics, 2003, 20(4):157–159.

Withdrawal Attitudes and Experiences: A Qualitative Perspective Among Young Urban Adults.  Whittaker, Paul G.; Merkh, Rebecca D.; Henry-Moss, Dare; Hock-Long, Linda. Perspectives on Sexual & Reproductive Health. Jun2010, Vol. 42 Issue 2, p102-109.


"pre-ejaculate fluid contains viable sperm—a belief that has not been supported by research" is consistent with the statement about "the myth that pre ejaculate fluid contains sperm." (http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,9372.msg862600.html#msg862600)

Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: BlueAby on November 22, 2012, 01:51:28 pm
Kami at first nagpa inject ako. Kaso parang dahil yata dun kaya nagka-PCOS ako. After that sabi ng OB ko magpills daw ako para umayos ulit ang cycle ko. Nag-regular na ako ngayon. After that naghingi ako ng advice for family planning since CS ako both sa anak ko. And she recommend pills. Kaso di talaga ako mahilig uminom ng gamot kahit maliit pa yan. Di rin ako familiar sa Calendar Method. What we do na lang is nagwiwithdrawal si hubby. Pero may times na nagbibilang din ako like kunwari kahapon ang last day ko... may 3days safe period ako, ginawa ko na lang 3days dati kasi akala ko 1wk before and after ng period ang safe, kaso nabuo yung bunso ko nung nag-do kami nung ika 7th day. Explanation ng kakilala ko nabubuhay daw kasi ang sperm sa loob ng girls for 3days.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: toughmom moderator on November 30, 2012, 10:59:39 pm
This topic has been pruned.
Please stay on topic. Pros and cons can be discussed in an open topic as asked by the author. In an exclusive topic, deviating the subject or recommending a method or brand that's opposed to the topic is not allowed.
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Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Mommy Jazz on December 10, 2012, 02:40:49 pm
I found this from the website  of American Academy of Family Physicians posted November 15, 2012. Other than these, I googled other sites with an advance setting to narrow my update on "past moth" para siguradong latest ang findings. Other sites say it's not reliable. The AAFP says:
withdrawal has an unintended pregnancy rate of 4 percent with perfect use, but a 22 percent rate with typical use.[/size]5 (http://www.aafp.org/afp/2012/1115/od2.html#afp20121115p001a-b5) Although this is far lower than the pregnancy rate when no contraceptive method is used (85 percent), it is hard to argue that withdrawal is effective in comparison with most non-NFP options. [/font]
[/size]http://www.aafp.org/afp/2012/1115/od2.html

I guess, debatable talaga this topic. Kahit researches gives us different, even conflicting results.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: licious10 on April 15, 2013, 05:33:48 pm
4years kami active ni boyfie pero d naman ako nabuntis using withdrawal lang...eh nalasing kami aun haha
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Mommy ni Gab on April 18, 2013, 02:05:05 pm
husband and I are still used to this kind of method.. for 7years kami mag boyfriend and up to now na husband ko na siya.. kaso nakakatakot din baka masundan agad si baby.. ask kolang sana mga mommies, anyone here can advice me regarding the copper T IUD?? thanks!!! :D :D
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: meeckah on May 22, 2014, 01:22:27 pm
Mga mommies question, i had my last mens on May 8 and my hubby and i had an intercourse last may 11, (once lang and withdrawal pa) as in quick lang tlaga, is there a higher chane of getting pregnant?
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: toughmom moderator on June 08, 2014, 12:39:04 am
Same topic merged.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: silverjoy17 on August 15, 2014, 12:36:09 am
Hi mga mommies, i just want to ask, safe po ba yung withdrawal method? 3 months old palang baby ko and i am very worried kasi delayed ako, bottle feed siya since i am a working mom.. :( Last night, nag pt ako, it is negative pro parang may napi feel talaga akong pitik sa leeg ko na symptoms kung buntis ang isang babae... Please let me know po.. :(
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Mommy Jazz on August 15, 2014, 11:09:55 am
Same topic merged. Please back read as your question may have already been answered in this thread.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Aja on February 20, 2015, 03:35:22 pm
Hi, question po. Base po sa mga experience nyo, may nabuntis ba dito dahil sa withdrawal method o kaya yung "pumasok but did not ejaculate, nag-condom afterwards"? Ano ba yung chance/probability of getting pregnant pag ganun? Ska anong pills ang nabibili over the counter and ano po side effects? Ty po
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Diego Nestor on May 25, 2019, 09:25:55 pm
Posible po be mabuntis yung babae kapag naputukan sa loob kahit konti lang at nabunot din naman agad? Please advise lang po?
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Patrick Mendoza on June 02, 2019, 01:07:53 pm
Nag Do po kami nag bf ko habang may mens ako pang 4th day ko na po then nag withdrawal po kami First time pong may nangyari samin pag tapos po manyri nun may lumabas pa rin pong mens sakin posible po ba akong mabuntis?? mababaliw na po ako kakaisip pls pa answer po thankyou😭😭 😭
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: dove love on June 02, 2019, 02:33:54 pm
hello po may itatanong lang sana ako sana po may makasagot pls, 6 days na po akong delayed my nangyare po kasi samin day ng ovulation ko and nung may 25 pero sa labas naman po, nag eexpect ako may 28 makakaperiod nako dahil ang cycle ko ay 32-34 days pero till now wala padin q buwan buwan naman ako nagkakaroon paiba iba lang ng date, bago yung araw na dapat period ko nakakaranas ako ng mga symptoms except sakit ng puson, now po masakit parin ang boobs ko and nagigising po ako ng umaga dahil naiihi ako masakit pag lumalabas and milky white po ang discharge ko na may mabahong amoy may possibility po kaya preggy ako? sana matulungan nyo ko malaman if buntis talaga ako, hindi pa po ako gumagamit ng pt.
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Zeed Zeed on September 23, 2019, 05:11:57 am
Mga mommies ask ko lang po ...sept 7 1st menz ko po....sept 14 po may nanyari samin iposible po ba na mabuntis ako o hindi??bago niya iputok sa labas binaon nyang mabuti bago niya iputok sa labas my chance po ba na mbuntis ako??please pkisagot po SALAMAT po
Title: Re: withdrawal
Post by: Parentchat Admin on September 23, 2019, 05:13:52 pm
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