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Title: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: tsenah on September 01, 2009, 01:35:43 pm
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;) Hi mga mommies, meron po bang gumagamit ng calendar method dto>? coz i've been using it sine i gave birth and i have some question sana... hehe

for those who are using this, is it safe?
what the best birth control po ba, yung wlang side effect.
thanks

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Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: yhangertz on September 25, 2009, 09:42:39 pm
hi sis ako calendar method gamit namin ni hubby. never ako gumamit ng pills kasi ayaw ni hubby mkakasama daw un sakin.di din kami gumagamit ng condom,,, calendar method and combination of withdrawal.hehe ;)

thank god 1yr and 1mo. na baby ko di pa din nsusundan.basta maingat lang kayo ni hubby and well educated about "reproductive system" and about the method you are using everything will be in control.

hehe.un lang.gudluck
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ajbiboy on September 25, 2009, 11:50:49 pm
   :)   hi sis kami din ni hubby calendar method and with combination also ng withdrawal. My eldest is 5 yrs old and yung baby ko 1yr old. Very effective naman kc yung sa youngest choice na naman na sundan na si ate. yun nga lang may time n nkakakaba lalo na kapag nglalambing si hubby ng wala sa panahon. hehe!   :D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ~PonYang~ on September 26, 2009, 09:56:01 am
ako din po calendar method din po and withdrawal... mag 6 yrs old na daughter ko this coming december...
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Mi-chee on September 26, 2009, 11:42:23 am
hi sis ako calendar method gamit naman ni hubby. never ako gumamit ng pills kc ayaw ni hubby mkakasama daw un sakin.di din kame gumagamit ng condom,,, calendar method and combination of hehe

thank god 1yr and 1mo. na baby ko d pa naman nsusundan.basta maingat lang kayo ni hubby and well educated about "reproductive system" and about the method you are using everything will be in control.


same tayo girl, ayaw din ni hubby, never used pills before. sa 1st ko and sa bunso calendar lang kami. Naka-mark sa calendar ko sa house and office yung mga unsafe periods ko.so far nag-work sa amin ni hubby and we communicate a lot esp. sa safe and unsafe days ko.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: yesha0099 on September 26, 2009, 02:46:45 pm
ako din po calendar method din po and withdrawal... mag 6 yrs old na daughter ko this coming december...
talaga mommy?? galing naman.  :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: chillaxmom on October 06, 2009, 09:46:00 am
after using a lot of pills, ang pangit ng effect sakit, lumaki ako hahaha...
now, try na namin ng calendar method. un din kasi gawa namin before ako magkababy for 4 years ;D, natakot lang ako ibalik kasi nalaman kong may matris pala ako hahaha!  ;D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: jecolet on October 06, 2009, 12:26:58 pm
me and hubby also use this.. my OB advised me against using pills kasi me side effect din ito.. may patient sya dati .. i forgot kung anong case yun.. pero she got ill because of pills.. eniweiz.. to be safe and sure we've been using this plus withdrawal..now 3 yrs old na baby namin.. actually balak na nga namin sundan so we stopped na pero i don't know hanggang ngayon wala pa rin kasunod.. hehe
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: stepmomi on October 06, 2009, 03:32:06 pm
tulad ng ibsng mommies dito calendar at withdrawal kame ni hubby ok naman hindi pa ako na bubuntis..
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: thansher01 on October 06, 2009, 07:43:52 pm
hi sis. calendar and with combi of withdrawal din kami ni hubby. 16 months na si Tyler (pwera usog,,, hahaha!). hindi kasi ako pwede magpills kasi may varicose ako and natatakot din ako sa possible side effects.. basta alam mo lang yung safe and unsafe days mo maiiwasan mo mapreggy. and make sure na regular ang menstruation mo. parang ang hirap kasi pag irregular.. nagnonote ako sa calendar para monitor ko...
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: j.u.m. on October 07, 2009, 05:17:56 pm
Hello Mommy..

We're also using calendar and withdrawal method. Our baby is turning 4 months old na on the 11th. We never used pills or condom. Just always take note of your safe and unsafe period. I always look at my chart and maintain open communication with my husband most especially when it's unsafe to do so. Self discipline on both of you count a lot. We both don't want pa naman kasi masundan agad si Ayel namin. :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: fairytink on November 16, 2009, 03:54:36 pm
mga mommies, paturo naman ng calendar method. how would i know safe and unsafe days?

ala lang, i just decided today na mag stop na mag pills muna and try calendar method  ;D kaya eto, mega search ako..
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: jh0yseksi on November 16, 2009, 04:28:09 pm
paturo rin po ako, i always rely on SP pag dating sa mga ganitong bagay, mas maganda kase para base on experience na. salamat mommies!
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: myanabanana on November 17, 2009, 05:34:56 am
Ako din calendar method..hindi kasi ako sanay uminom ng medicine.In my case kasi, ang ginagawa ko after ng last menstruation ko pwede na for example ang last day ko is 5 pwede yun hanggang ika 10thday ko..at ang iniiwasan namin ni hubby is yung 14th mula ng nagka period ako..

share pa po kayo ng ibang style naman ha.. :D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: gym16 on November 17, 2009, 09:53:57 am
kami rin ni hubby calendar method with matching withdrawal and misan he uses condom para super safe talaga..sobrang takot pa ko masundan si baby and medyo na-trauma kasi ako nung nanganak ako kaya ayoko pa talagang masundan yung baby ko tsaka na pag di na sya masyadong alagain. ayaw din ni hubby ang pills ulyanin din kasi ako sa paginom ng gamot, pag injectibles naman di rin daw maganda..nakasulat sa calendar namin sa bahay yung date (1st-last day) ng period ko.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: fairytink on November 17, 2009, 10:19:39 am
thanks mga mommies! keep sharing please!  :-*
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: yhamslove® on November 17, 2009, 01:09:36 pm
^sa mobile phone ng husband ko may option sa calendars about menstruation...just enter the date (ata) ng last mens tapos magkakahighlights na kung anong days meron (red) safe (white) unsafe (yellow)...

pero di namin sinusunod...

AYOKO! takot pa ako eh...  :D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ladyvampire on November 17, 2009, 07:41:58 pm
we follow calendar/rhythm method ever since. kaso when we used it to concieve, medyo nahirapan kami... kailangang 6 months na subukan.

this only works if a woman has regular periods.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: jh0yseksi on November 17, 2009, 10:18:35 pm
we follow calendar/rhythm method ever since. kaso when we used it to concieve, medyo nahirapan kami... kailangang 6 months na subukan.

this only works if a woman has regular periods.

@ mommy ladyvampire

ako po kase irregular, hinde po ba effective ang calendar method sa mga irregular ang period?? thanks
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ladyvampire on November 18, 2009, 11:07:09 am
what i normally do is after my period...

sa irregular this is the easy way... yung days after ng menstruation... kasi kapag before hindi mo matratrack kasi irreg ka nga...  sa calendar kasi 7 days before and after the mens, you can have safe contact.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: jh0yseksi on November 18, 2009, 06:23:55 pm
@ mommy ladyvampire

Salamat, mahirap kase pag nangangapa e, mas mabuti kase planado pagdating sa mga babies, thanks ulit
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommy lore on November 19, 2009, 07:46:50 pm
Ako din calendar method..hindi kasi ako sanay uminom ng medicine.In my case kasi, ang ginagawa ko after ng last menstruation ko pwede na for example ang last day ko is 5 pwede yun hanggang ika 10thday ko..at ang iniiwasan namin ni hubby is yung 14th mula ng nagka period ako..

share pa po kayo ng ibang style naman ha.. :D

Ako di ko na pinaaabot ng ika 10th day. Pang 7th day pa lang stop na. It worked for us kasi regular ang period ko. And yung OB ko sabi niya sakin ang day 1 daw dapat is yung unang spot ng blood na makikita mo. Mostly daw kasi ang day 1 na bilang ng iba is pag lumakas na which is mali.

Nag try din ako mag pills. Dun ako tumaba. So were happy na effective itong calendar method sa amin. mag 6yrs old na ang youngest ko this feb. :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: vitto's_mom on November 20, 2009, 11:45:23 am
mommies!!!
 
 im so bothered right now. hindi pa kc ako ngkakapgdecide kung pills or injectable ang gagamitin ko. i gave birth kc last august 08,09. normal lang naman ang mens after giving birth sabi ni OB ko, mine lasted for almost two weeks. then after 1month ako ulet ngkaroon pero sobrang konti lang and it lasted about 3days lang. what suprised me was that hindi pa ncocomplete ang 30day-cycle ko eh ngkaroon ulet ako so parang 2times akong ngkaroon in a month. pero like the previous one, it didnt last that long too and spots lang sya. then after another month, mga 2 1/2 month after i gave birth, hubby and i had a contact pero hindi kami natapos. by that time di pa dumadating yung mens ko. then nasundan ulet ng isa pang contact which was not done successfully again kc parang ngkaron ng post-trauma c hubby na mabuntis ulet ako. i suppose to have my period na 2nd week of nov pero until now wala parin sya. huhu. 3mos palang si baby and im worried na im preggy again.
 
 it is really possible to get preggy due to pre-c*m? or ngaadjust pa yung cycle ng period ko that's why di prin ako ngkakaroon until now? pls help, i can't wait another week na ganito ang feeling.
 
 thanks in advance mommies!!
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: danielle on November 20, 2009, 02:13:53 pm
i think you're not..pero try to seek advice from your OB to be sure..siguro nasa stage kpa ng adjustment hindi pa regular menstruation mo though madami din nabubuntis after giving birth..pero you can go for a pregnancy test pero since kelan ka lang nanganak bka magulat ka magpositive kasi db usually ganun kahit nanganak kana or dka preggy positive yung PT since kelan ka lang nanganak..
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: qt_mom_c on November 20, 2009, 03:33:07 pm
ako din calendar method, pero gusto ko na sanang sundan na baby ko( 1 yr 2mos na) kasi 31 na ako baka mahirapan na ako kung paabutin ko pa ng mag 40 ako.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommykay on November 20, 2009, 03:39:07 pm
we use calendar method lang po hindi kasi puwede s akin mga pills & any hormonal contraceptives. 10 months n si baby hindi p naman nasusundan ;)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: yhamslove® on November 20, 2009, 03:51:46 pm
what i normally do is after my period...

sa irregular this is the easy way... yung days after ng menstruation... kasi kapag before hindi mo matratrack kasi irreg ka nga...  sa calendar kasi 7 days before and after the mens, you can have safe contact.

paano ulit mommy lady_v? 7 days after ng 1st day ng mens? or 1st day pagkatapos ng mens? (magulo ba tanong ko?)

Let's say November 18 - Start of Mens... kelan safe?

kahit sino po pwede sumagot...  ;)

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommykay on November 20, 2009, 03:54:53 pm
as per my OB dati safe daw ang 10days before & 10 days after. But kami sigurista we make it 7 days before & after.  ;)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommykay on November 20, 2009, 04:19:54 pm
eh mommykay kailan magsisimula yung 1st day after ng mens?

lets use my example again:

Nov. 18 (nagkaroon) do I start my counting from this day or do i have to wait for my period to finish and sa last day ng mens ko dun palang ako magsastart ng counting?

sorry ha... kulit ako.. ;D


sis example 30 days cycle k po eto

18 19 29 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 - safe
28 20 39 01 02 03 04 05 06 07- no longger safe
08 09 19 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 - safe uli

yung red dun possible mag occure ang fertility
Nov 18 - start of mens for nov
Dec 17 - start uli ng mens fo dec

hope na-explain ko ng maayos  ;)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: yhamslove® on November 23, 2009, 09:03:45 am
^thank you for educating me mommy kay! wish me luck! try namin ito... kayalang hindi pa gaano nawawala yung kaba ko that i might get pregnant again eh.. magfo-four months palang si Geno....

anyways... thanks again!!!  :D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommykay on November 23, 2009, 02:04:47 pm
@ yhamslove - no problem po.  :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mom2trix on November 25, 2009, 01:21:06 pm
mga sis may stupid question lang me here.. once ba nagkaroon ka na ng mens ibig sabihin nun walang nabuo during those fertile periods? so start na uli ng bagong cycle? eh dati kasi nung nabuo si baby jul 2 ang last mens ko then nung aug 14 na hindi pa 'ko nagkakaroon, positive na yung PT ko. sa ultrasound sabi 6 wks na daw si baby? so pag nag back track ako, buo na si baby sa last mens ko palang.. naguguluhan ako bakit ganun sis? so ang nasa isip ko ngayon hindi porke't nagkaroon ka last month eh hindi ka na buntis..am right or ginugulo ko lang mga sis?! :-\
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommykay on November 25, 2009, 02:02:36 pm
@ mom2trix - sis s pagkakaalam ko they start counting age ng baby s tummy s base last menstural period (LMP) not necessarily nun time siya nabuo po.

Hindi kasi madaling malaman if when talga nabuo si baby even if you keep record of your making loves kasi as they say sperms can live up to 3 days sa loob natin. pedeng you make love nung wed pero nabuo siya either wed, thurs or friday he he he
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mom2trix on November 25, 2009, 08:54:27 pm
mommykay: so ibig bang sabihin once na nagkaroon ka na ng mens ibig sabihin nun walang nabuo during those fertile periods? so start na uli ng bagong cycle? ;)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommykay on November 26, 2009, 07:32:40 am
mommykay: so ibig bang sabihin once na nagkaroon ka na ng mens ibig sabihin nun walang nabuo during those fertile periods? so start na uli ng bagong cycle? ;)

As they say po if regular period mo you can really assume n wala talagang nabuo unless 2 eggs ang nilabas mo (ito daw po ang nangwawari kaya fraternal twins) at nafertilize ang isa which i think is quit rare naman. :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on December 01, 2009, 02:08:44 pm
The Calendar Method is no longer considered as a Family Planning Method.

Each woman has a different fertility cycle that should be observed...so one could not simply get a calendar, mark the days there and estimate when it is safe.

A modern but simple way of determining if one can get pregnant is the 2-day Method:

Have you observed having a mucus secretion today or yesterday? If yes, then you can get pregnant.  If no, then you won't.


What's with the mucus? 

FYI, the vagina is a very hostile environment for sperms.  The acid there kills them immediately.  The Cervical Mucus (CM), particularly the slippery type (not the lubrication ha)...protects the sperms as they swim and race to find the egg (or wait for it if they get inside 2-4 days early).  When the mucus is of the sticky type then it's also not possible to get pregnant...but hey, it would be much safer to treat all mucus secretions the same...unsafe.

Wouldn't it be cheesy if a wife and a husband observe fertility together?  Sweet di ba? Very intimate.

A woman's body undergoes a Fertility Cycle.  Her body prepares to conceive life.  Blood will collect at the walls of her womb. When the time is right, she will secrete mucus to "fetch" the sperms once they are deposited at the opening of her cervix.  She will then release an egg, which will then travel to a follopian tube and reach the womb. 

If there are no sperms to fertilize the egg, the wall of blood will rupture and come out of the body as monthly period or mensturation.  The unfertilized egg will leave the body through this flowing of blood.


If the sperms arrive, she (the egg) will only choose one from several milions.  Once fertilized, conception occurs and a new life, a baby has been created.

The fertilized egg will bury itself on the blood that has now thickly lined the walls of the womb.  The blood will nourish the egg.  The monthly period will not occur.  This baby will grow until it's time to leave the womb. 

When the baby is born and breastfeeds, the body will continue to nuture the new life.  Breastfeeding will signal the brain to continue to be in nurturing mode...so the fertility cycle will remain suspended and monthly period will not yet return (Lactational Ammenhorrea Method, LAM).

What if contraceptives, like pills, are used?  The chemical on the pills would have dried up the blood on the walls of the womb.  The fertilized egg, the new life, will not be able to implant on the womb and leaves the body - abortion will occur.

For more detailed Natural Family Planning Variations, please search the web for:
- Basal Body Temperature Method (BBT)
- Billings/Mucus/Ovulation Method (OM)
- Sympto-Thermal Method (STM)
- Standard Days Method
- 2-Day Method
- Lactational Ammenhorrea Method (LAM)

Pills, IUD and other contraceptives kill our babies! They're useless and those who sell them only profit from keeping us uninformed about human fertility.

I apologize that I don't have time to provide links.  I just wrote all of the above on the fly.  Maybe I can get back to this later to update it.

Cheers,

- Daddy Jojo
 


Natural Family Planning is 100% effective!

Proof:
The Effectiveness Of Natural Family Planning. The Los Angeles Study 100% Method Effectiveness http://ccli.org/nfp/basics/effectiveness-p02.php <-- I agree we dont need this HR Bill 5043, Kill the Bill!



The Los Angeles Study
100% Method Effectiveness

Between 1976 and 1978, the U.S. Department of Health, Education, and Welfare conducted a prospective study to determine the relative user effectiveness of two different systems of Natural Family Planning.1 Participants were randomly assigned to either the Sympto-Thermal Method (STM) or Ovulation Method (OM) sides of the study. However, they were first screened to eliminate any couples who had a serious health, economic, or social reason to avoid pregnancy. The resulting group of 1257 couples had an average age of 28 and had only one child per family.

In the STM side of the Los Angeles study, couples determined the end of Phase I by using a calculation based on the woman's previous cycle history (short cycle minus 21 equals the last day of Phase I) and cross-checked that with the continued absence of mucus. They determined the start of Phase III by cross-checking three days of well elevated temperatures with four days of the disappearance of the cervical mucus which characterizes the fertile time.

The couples who followed these simple rules achieved a 100% effectiveness rate in avoiding pregnancy, i.e., zero unplanned pregnancies. (The couples who used the OM rules had 5.67 unplanned pregnancies per 100 woman years of exposure, i.e., about a 94% method effectiveness rate. Better OM results were achieved in a five nation World Health Organization study: a standard Pearl rate of 2.6; i.e. a 97.4% effectiveness rate.)2

A 100% effectiveness rate cannot be sustained in a large population and thus claims made for the STM state "99% method effectiveness."

The Fairfield Study
99% Method Effectiveness

Between 1970 and 1972, 1022 couples participated in a five nation (Canada, Colombia, France, Mauritius, U.S.A.) study called the Fairfield Study after the university of the principal investigator.3 The calculation used to determine the end of Phase I (short cycle minus 19 or 20) was more liberal than that used in the later Los Angeles Study; a three day temperature-only rule was used to determine the start of Phase III without cross-checking for the disappearance of cervical mucus. The couples who followed these more liberal rules achieved a method effectiveness rate of 99% according to the Pearl formula (9 unplanned pregnancies in 14,416 months of exposure).

The Roetzer Studies
99% and 100% Method Effectiveness

Dr. Roetzer has distinguished between the method effectiveness of Phase I and Phase II according to his rules.4 In his 1978 study, he reported that coitus during the first six days of the fertility/menstrual cycle yielded one pregnancy in 8,532 cycles, a Pearl rate of less than 0.2 per 100 woman years of exposure, i.e., well within a 99% effectiveness. Using a combination of three days of well elevated temperatures cross-checked by three days of the disappearance of more fertile mucus to determine the start of Phase III, couples experienced zero unplanned pregnancies in 17,000 cycles, i.e. a 100% method effectiveness rate.


The Doring Temperature-Only Study
99% and 100% Method Effectiveness

Dr. Gerhardt K. Doring tested the only pure temperature-only system reported in the literature--using a temperature based calculation for determining the end of Phase I as well as the start of Phase III.5 With the formula "earliest day (in previous cycles) of thermal shift minus 7 yields the last day of Phase I," there were 13 unplanned pregnancies among 37,035 cycles, a Pearl rate of 0.42 per 100 woman years, well within the 99% level of effectiveness. Among 307 couples using a three day very strong thermal shift pattern for the start of Phase III and confining intercourse only to Phase III, there were zero unplanned pregnancies in 11,352 cycles, another 100% method effectiveness rate with a limited population.


The Vincent Study
99% Method Effectiveness

Similar results were achieved in a French study published in 1967.6 Couples in this study had intercourse only in Phase III as determined by a rule similar to that of Dr. Doring., There was one unplanned pregnancy in 17,500 cycles yielding a Pearl rate of 0.07 per 100 woman years of exposure, well within the 99% level of effectiveness.


Conclusion 1. Studies conducted in Canada, Colombia, France, Germany, Mauritius and the United States have demonstrated a 99% method effectiveness for the Sympto-Thermal and Temperature-Only Methods. These studies were conducted under a variety of conditions and demonstrate beyond any reasonable question of a doubt that this extremely high effectiveness can be achieved by ordinary couples who receive adequate instruction and follow the relatively simple rules of these methods.


Read next  http://ccli.org/nfp/basics/effectiveness-p03.php

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: bawalangpork on December 06, 2009, 10:55:12 am
calendar method+withdrawal, very effective, kaya lang nung valentines day sabay ng celebration ng pagkapasa ni gf sa board, nagkalasingan, nakalimutan niya fertile siya, yun nabuo si baby, 3 weeks na siya ngayon  ;D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mariann on December 06, 2009, 12:28:41 pm
we've been using this method for years. very effective as long as your partner (specifically your man) cooperates.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: iyah_82 on December 07, 2009, 02:12:56 pm
paturo sana ako pano yung calendar method? kasi gusto ko itry kahit nagyong dec lang since punta ako davao e maiwan hubby ko, yung baby ko nauna na sa davao. masiyado kasi mahal diane35 kung bibili ako ngayong buwan eh hindi naman kami mag ccontact ni hubby ko. bale first day ko ngayon. kelan ba yung safe and unsafe?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mamiof2 on December 07, 2009, 02:24:34 pm
sa kin kasi safe period kung:

1.  consider your 1st day of period is day 1.
2.  period will last for 4-5 days maximum.
3.  5th hanggang 7th day safe po yun.
4.  yung pang 8th-10th day di na safe.

yan po ang tawag sa 10 days period.

yung ibang nabuntis using this method, nag do kasi sila even on the 9th and 10th day.  Hindi na kasi masyadong safe yun.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: iyah_82 on December 07, 2009, 05:09:47 pm
sis mamiof2 you mean hindi na ako safe sa dec 14? since first day ko ngayon dec 7? dec 14 to kelan unsafe ako? flight ko kasi dec 19. wawa naman si hubby diba kung dko pag bbigyan to think matagal pa next year pa balik ko dito manila
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mamiof2 on December 08, 2009, 09:10:09 am
hi sis iyah..para sa kin di na masyadong safe on dec 14 kasi pang 8th day mo na yun.  But still you can go for it kaya lang minsan kasi mahirap baka ma-tsambahan kayo ni hubby hehe
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: iyah_82 on December 08, 2009, 02:00:05 pm
thanks mommy mamiof2. Nag usap kami ni hubby kagabi ayaw niya ng calendar method takot since siya dapat mag control e yaw niya  ;D . bahala na daw mahal yung pills basta siguro safe naman
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: yhamslove® on January 12, 2010, 01:02:17 pm
lagi akong nagtatanong kung paano gawin pero i (we pala!) never tried this method.. natatakot kase ako..

so that means, i had my period on January 9 (Saturday), even if we DO it on January 13, 14 & 15 i won't get pregnant?

promise?  ???
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: babybubot on January 12, 2010, 01:09:30 pm
lagi akong nagtatanong kung paano gawin pero i (we pala!) never tried this method.. natatakot kase ako..

so that means, i had my period on January 9 (Saturday), even if we DO it on January 13, 14 & 15 i won't get pregnant?

promise?  ???

sis ur fertile dates will fall on 17-26 kaya safe ka ng mga araw na sinabi mo. i been using this method for 2 years until i decided to get pregnant.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: yhamslove® on January 12, 2010, 01:19:52 pm
@sis babybubot:

sana sis effective din sa akin..

as in talaga sis, kahit walang protection si hubby... kahit makalimot siya? grabe... kinakabahan ako... kase I'm not into using pills and we only do the withdrawal method...

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: sherolf on January 12, 2010, 02:43:28 pm
pwede ba kahit 7days after ng peroid na lang para sa mga irregular?..
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: babybubot on January 12, 2010, 04:46:24 pm
@sis babybubot:

sana sis effective din sa akin..

as in talaga sis, kahit walang protection si hubby... kahit makalimot siya? grabe... kinakabahan ako... kase I'm not into using pills and we only do the withdrawal method...

sakin kasi it works, and regular ang period ko. and we never use condom di namin pareho type. hindi pwede mag calendar method ang irregular sis. pero ngayon im using pills na request ni hubby  ;D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: tineped on January 12, 2010, 04:50:59 pm
Same lang ba to with Cycle Beads Method?

http://www.cyclebeads.com/
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: BASTI on January 12, 2010, 05:37:46 pm
mga mommies, paturo naman ng calendar method. how would i know safe and unsafe days?

ala lang, i just decided today na mag stop na mag pills muna and try calendar method  ;D kaya eto, mega search ako..



From the first day na nag ka menstruation ka..
counted as 1 day na...

Hindi ka safe ng 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th day mo....

7 days before and after is safe.


Correct me if im wrong mga sis :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: tsenah on January 13, 2010, 02:05:57 pm
lagi akong nagtatanong kung paano gawin pero i (we pala!) never tried this method.. natatakot kase ako..


so that means, i had my period on January 9 (Saturday), even if we DO it on January 13, 14 & 15 i won't get pregnant?

promise?  ???

sis ur fertile dates will fall on 17-26 kaya safe ka ng mga araw na sinabi mo. i been using this method for 2 years until i decided to get pregnant.


Hi mga mommy, try this application that i got sa mga file sharing forum.  It's a cellphone application that you will install and then enter nyo lang first date ng mens nyo and it will tell you na when is your safe days and unsafe days.  The days in green are your fertile days and the days in blue naman is the safe days... sana you have records of the pass menstration nyo kasi the more monthly period na ma enter nyo the more accurate yung data...

i tried installing this application sa nokia and sony erisson, its working fully naman..

nga pala i don't know how to attach the installer here, is it possible ba? please pm me your email add nalang so that i can send it thru email.   :D
 

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: tineped on January 13, 2010, 02:13:57 pm
^ can you just provide the link? or upload it in mediafire for example and give us the download link. thanks! :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: bizzy on January 13, 2010, 02:35:42 pm
As what daddy jojo has mentioned, calendar method is no longer safe especially to those with irregular periods. I used Ovulation Method and study my mucus.

Starting 4 months before I got pregnant, I noted my periods and checked my exact ovulation day.
1st month - 28 days cycle
2nd month - 30 days cycle
3rd month - 29 days cycle
4rth month - 28 days cycle
During these months, I noticed I ovulated on the 14th or 15th day. Since sperms can live up to 3 days inside, I make sure, no contact on those dates if ayaw kong magbuntis. Since, I wanted to have a baby boy, I made sure we will contact on the day of my ovulation or a day after that (may nabasa kasi ako about this dati =) )

Since irregular ako, we tried to have contact on the dates that we know na mag-o-ovulate ako.. Say if pag 28 days ang cyle ko is on 14th, then we will do it. Supposing 30 day period is on 15th, we will do it again. Actually, ilang sunod sunod na days namin ginawa yun dahil iba-iba ang interval ng cycle ko basta maka sure hit lang kami. hehe

Eto, I am blessed with a baby boy =) He is 9 months now and I plan on having a baby girl mga next year ulit para complete na ang family of four ko =)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: tsenah on January 13, 2010, 02:44:00 pm
^ can you just provide the link? or upload it in mediafire for example and give us the download link. thanks! :)


im sorry but those sites are blocked here sa pc ko eh, i tried to open na din kanina...
can i just send it to your email nalang and please upload and post the link nalang dito? thanks
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: yhamslove® on January 13, 2010, 02:57:22 pm
@sis tsenah:

my hubby's cellphone provides the same feature! under the health icon ata.. myphone ang gamit niya... the ones with tv also. it's new daw in the market..

but i discourage him from relying on that... it's not that accurate and as long as we are not yet ready to have a baby again... it's better to have some protection..

isa pa.. hindi pa naaalis yung trauma ko sa panganganak kaya pass muna.. :D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: tineped on January 13, 2010, 03:15:18 pm
^^ How big is the file when zipped?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: tsenah on January 13, 2010, 03:19:21 pm
^^ How big is the file when zipped?

13kb lang sya, its in .jar format nga pala. don't know how to zippe eh, actually naka rar sya, i just unrar it, but still 13kb.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: collean on January 21, 2010, 11:57:06 am
e ano ba yung accurate before and after days??? wanna try it sana pero different days ang sinasabi nila...help ...help...help
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on January 21, 2010, 03:08:06 pm
Mommy Bizzy, thank you very much for sharing.  This is very much appreciated.  We need more success stories like yours.  Kami we wanted just one child, a girl.  We got a girl, we stopped having more.  We concentrated naman on those early feritle days and avoided ovulation or peak day.  This is called the Shettle's Method or Gender Selection using Natural Family Planning.

Tip for everyone, if you want to avoid pregnancy.  Make yourself desirable and do it all the way when you are not fertile.  During fertile days, you may bond and just explore the other pleasures of being intimate.

As what daddy jojo has mentioned, calendar method is no longer safe especially to those with irregular periods. I used Ovulation Method and study my mucus.

Starting 4 months before I got pregnant, I noted my periods and checked my exact ovulation day.
1st month - 28 days cycle
2nd month - 30 days cycle
3rd month - 29 days cycle
4rth month - 28 days cycle
During these months, I noticed I ovulated on the 14th or 15th day. Since sperms can live up to 3 days inside, I make sure, no contact on those dates if ayaw kong magbuntis. Since, I wanted to have a baby boy, I made sure we will contact on the day of my ovulation or a day after that (may nabasa kasi ako about this dati =) )

Since irregular ako, we tried to have contact on the dates that we know na mag-o-ovulate ako.. Say if pag 28 days ang cyle ko is on 14th, then we will do it. Supposing 30 day period is on 15th, we will do it again. Actually, ilang sunod sunod na days namin ginawa yun dahil iba-iba ang interval ng cycle ko basta maka sure hit lang kami. hehe

Eto, I am blessed with a baby boy =) He is 9 months now and I plan on having a baby girl mga next year ulit para complete na ang family of four ko =)

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ahyzeyuh on January 27, 2010, 12:30:21 am
i agree this wont really works with irregular period.

i been using calendar method since i become active,  and it does works for me kasi regular period ko.but nalilito na ako sa pagbibilang.
if period falls december 31st and it only lasted for 3days, kailan po ang fertile days nito? looking at January calendar if im not mistaken fertile period will run from January 16 - 20. tama po ba??
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: tsenah on January 27, 2010, 07:33:04 am
Mommy Bizzy, thank you very much for sharing.  This is very much appreciated.  We need more success stories like yours.  Kami we wanted just one child, a girl.  We got a girl, we stopped having more.  We concentrated naman on those early feritle days and avoided ovulation or peak day.  This is called the Shettle's Method or Gender Selection using Natural Family Planning.

Tip for everyone, if you want to avoid pregnancy.  Make yourself desirable and do it all the way when you are not fertile.  During fertile days, you may bond and just explore the other pleasures of being intimate.


Hi Daddy Jojo,

I have a question po, pano po ba if merong pahabol na means, do we count that as my period pa din?what if 3 days my pahabol, spot spot lang naman, does it mean ba ma adjust na yung peak day ng ovulation?

many thanks po.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on January 27, 2010, 09:32:40 am
Hi Mommy Tsena,

First I want to clarify that I am not promoting Calendar or what I believe to be "counting" method.  I am advocating Ovulation Method (aka Mucus or Billings Method) and the modern Two-Day Method. 

The closest Natural Family Planning procedure that could answer your question is the Standard Days Method (SDM). 

Bottomline, "most ovulations occur around the mid-point of the menstrual cycle (+/- 3 days)"1

I cannot provide you with an exact answer (I don't think anybody can).  There are a lot of factors that affect each individual woman's menstrual cycle and fertility.  This was the same reason, I believe, why the Calendar Method is no longer listed as a type of Natural Family Planning.

Okay, here's NFP simplified, again.

To avoid pregnany
Time intercourse near menstruation days, immediately before or after, when there's dryness in the cervix or when the egg cell has left the body.

To achieve pregnancy
Time intercourse near ovulation days, approx. only 5-6 days when there's a slippery egg-white mucus present.


Notes:

Comment: I think healthy kung once a month na sex, right after menstruation.  When we delay gratification until that time, di ba parang mas feel ang bonding.


Hi Daddy Jojo,

I have a question po, pano po ba if merong pahabol na means, do we count that as my period pa din?what if 3 days my pahabol, spot spot lang naman, does it mean ba ma adjust na yung peak day ng ovulation?

many thanks po.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommytoni29 on February 01, 2010, 01:47:47 pm
mga sis ask ko lang kung effective ba yung calendar method kasi nagkaroon ako nung dec. 31 tapos nag-end yung period ko nung January 4, tapos nag-contact kami nung jan. 5 pero mga 1 minute lang na hindi ako ginamitan ng condom possible ba mabuntis ako?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommytoni29 on February 02, 2010, 12:35:40 pm
sis reply naman kayo nagwoworry lang ako kasi baka buntis ako possible ba yun?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommytoni29 on February 03, 2010, 03:47:22 pm
sis possible ba nabuntis ako nag-try kasi ako ng calendar method bali dec. 31 yung 1st day ko nag-end nung jan. 4 tapos nagcontact kami jan. 6 pero wala pang 1 minute lang niya ako ginamitan ng condom tapos we used condom na kasi takot pa kami na mabuntis uli ako feb 3 na today pero wala pa din ako mens. buntis kaya ako mga sis. help naman
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ahyzeyuh on February 04, 2010, 12:01:38 am
I don’t think so, kasi nasa 7days safe period ka pa rin ng mag do kayo.. but syempre if kabado ka then PT can answer that
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on February 04, 2010, 04:52:55 pm
Hi, pwede ba magreply ang bro instead of sis?

I don't think one can get pregnant kung katatapos lang ng period.

Kalalabas lang blood na essential sa pagbubuntis.  Kasama sa blood na iyon ang egg na ni-release noon pang peak day (during fertile period, opposite ng schedule ng menstruation).

Wala pang blood sa womb or nagsisimula pa lang ulit ang fertility cycle.  Dry pa during this time, right?  In the morning, upon waking up, walang presence ng cervical mucus (no need for panty shields/pads, right?).

Without the cervical mucus (hindi ito yung lubrication ha), nothing protects the sperm, so they die.

Search ka na lang, Sis, about Reproductive health and Fertility...to know more about how beautifully a woman's body works on bringing new life into the world.


sis reply naman kayo nagwoworry lang ako kasi baka buntis ako possible ba yun?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: QUINN on February 16, 2010, 04:43:37 pm
kami ni hubby, calendar method din... Regular din kasi period ko. Exmaple Feb. 10 ang last day ng period ko, safe ako until Feb. 15. Sa mga fertile days ko, we used condom naman. Takot kasi kaming masundan agad si uno. He's  9 months pa lang. Basta Alert talaga ako sa mga fertile days ko, and cooperative naman si hubby.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: jasz on March 03, 2010, 06:16:50 pm
hi! withdrawal kami lagi lately na lang gumagamit condom kasi hiya kami bumili e..hehe! paki-explain naman calendar method para matry din namin..thanks!
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Mami S on March 08, 2010, 01:53:46 pm
hi mga mommies, pls. help me naman widrawal kami ni hubby, i gave birth last sept.29, 2009, taz nagkaperiod me after gave birth nong jan.24, 2010 until now wala pa din me, irregular ako means paatras ng paatras ang mens ko pero monthly sya, pero once nagkaron me ng malapit sa katapusan like ng first period on ng jan. 24 expect ko na next month feb. di me magkakaron, ask ko lang sis once ngkaron na ng period after gave birth monthly na ba sya lagi? 1st baby ko kasi, at sobra kong natatakot kasi CS me at trauma sa akin nong nanganak ako nong sept., possible ba buntis ako kasi until now wala pa din me period, last contact namin ni hubby nong feb. 14. pasensya na napahaba...thanks
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: yhamslove® on March 09, 2010, 09:30:46 pm
@sis Mami S:

Kindly check Reply #28 of this thread. Here's the link:

http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php?topic=9372.15
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on March 10, 2010, 09:09:18 am
Hi Jasz and Mami S,

Share ko lang ha.  I think the very reason why the Calendar Method has been abolished or phased out is because, well, it's based on our calendar.  Di naman pare-parehas ang days of the month.  February is shorter than all the other months.  Counting by days using a calendar appears simple, yes, but very inaacurate. 

A lot of people find charting (or taking notes of what your body is undergoing on a daily basis) tedious.  Again, I think all we need is to understand our fertility. 

Bottomline..the female body prepares for the possibility of nurturing a new life...kaya may fertiles days (mga 4-5 days, sa gitna o malayo sa menstruation days).  When no fertilization occurs (no sperm fertilizing an egg) then the body resets itself for the next...the blood that formed inside the womb will come out of the body.

Our goal is to identify those 4-5 days.  If we want to have new baby then we focus on those days.  If we want to stop, don't want more, or want to plan first, then avoid those days. 

The makers of condoms, pills and other contraceptives don't want us to know these things.  Keeping us ignorant is good for their business.  We buy their products even if we don't need them.

hi mga mommies, pls. help me naman widrawal kami ni hubby, i gave birth last sept.29, 2009, taz nagkaperiod me after gave birth nong jan.24, 2010 until now wala pa din me, irregular ako means paatras ng paatras ang mens ko pero monthly sya, pero once nagkaron me ng malapit sa katapusan like ng first period on ng jan. 24 expect ko na next month feb. di me magkakaron, ask ko lang sis once ngkaron na ng period after gave birth monthly na ba sya lagi? 1st baby ko kasi, at sobra kong natatakot kasi CS me at trauma sa akin nong nanganak ako nong sept., possible ba buntis ako kasi until now wala pa din me period, last contact namin ni hubby nong feb. 14. pasensya na napahaba...thanks
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: yhamslove® on March 10, 2010, 01:12:04 pm
@Daddy Jojo:

Our goal is to identify those 4-5 days.  If we want to have new baby then we focus on those days.  If we want to stop, don't want more, or want to plan first, then avoid those days. 

Those are the days i would want to know but i just don't have any idea how i can figure out which day is which.. is counting that accurate Daddy Jojo?

Please enlighten me... (grabe.. sa lalake pa ako nagtatanong ng mga bagay na dapat ay alam ko bilang babae!  :-[)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Mami S on March 10, 2010, 05:06:16 pm
thank you Daddy Jojo & yhamslove, Daddy Jojo how can i identify those 4-5days? i want it also to share to my friend because until now they dont have baby. Is this applicable to irregular period or sa regular lang? Irregular din kasi friend ko pareho kami...gusto niya nag magkababy, i want it to help her. thanks dady Jojo.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Mami S on March 10, 2010, 05:09:59 pm
yhamslove based sa pinabasa mo sa akin thread safe me nong last contact namin...pero until no la pa din me...hayy

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on March 11, 2010, 06:07:14 am
Hi Yhamslove and Mami S,

Here's is that 4-5 days in pink (from http://www.maybebaby.com.au) with the peak day, when an egg is released, in bright pink:

(http://www.maybebaby.com.au/gallery/images/1144828120Cycle.jpg)

Please do not misinterpret this and start counting ha.  This is just an illustration of the 28 day cycle which many women undergo.  Kahit pa ganito ang cycle mo, your fertility or ovulation period may move due to stress and other factors.  Hindi naka-highlight dito ang menstruation period (first 3 to 7 days) so just read carefully the labels.

Description of the cycle from http://www.maybebaby.com.au
Quote
The above chart shows a typical menstrual cycle: the cycle begins on the first day of your period, and your ovulation date follows about 14 days later.
 
If conception has not taken place, you will get your period again about 14 days after ovulation. For details on each phase of this cycle, please visit "The Science Behind Maybe Baby".

In the real world, many of us don’t have an exact 28 day cycle - some women’s cycles are shorter than 28 days, others are always longer, and some vary from one month to the next.  So ovulation won’t consistently fall on day 14 of the cycle for every woman, or even for the same woman every month.

Since you can only conceive during the 24-hour period every month when you are ovulating, being able to predict and pinpoint that window of opportunity is key to getting pregnant.

A quick way of determining if you're fertile or not is to observe signs.  Take note of vaginal secretion upon waking, standing up and going to the bathroom in the morning.  If there's a slippery feeling, then that's a sign that you can get pregnant on that day or the day after that (check Two-Day Method at http://www.irh.org/?q=content/twoday-method).

(http://www.irh.org/sites/default/files/images/Two%20Day%20Algorithm%20-%20small.img_assist_custom-220x188.jpg)

The most accurate way is to check both signs and body temperature (Symptothermal Method) and record it daily on a chart. Check out www.fertilityfriend.com for a free one month chart that you can use.  When you view sample charts, be sure that you get the one's in Celsius (temperature).

(http://www.fertilityfriend.com/ChartGalleryCache/chart116399-1.png?k=0;1268257831;0;ee6eee195b065483d939de88bb3bb388)
This is an actual chart of a 30 year old woman.  The blue line is the temperature.  The red vertical line is an automatic indicator of her peak day of fertility.  This chart tells us that she had sexual intercourse in the afternoon or evening of  day 4, right after her period (marked as PM in the BD row).  Check out the CM row for her record of Menses, marked "L" for Light and "H" for Heavy.  Her CM or Cervical Mucus was observed as Egg White on Day 13 and Watery on Day 14.  Together with charting, she used an OPK or Ovulation Predictor Kit which pinpointed the same peak day she had with the symbol "+".     

Siyempre, since ang sexual intercourse ay malayo sa fertile/ovulation days niya, puro negative ang mga pregnancy test niya sa day 28 to 31.  Hmmn, dami nasayang na pregnancy test kit.  Mahal pa naman non.  Well, at least di nagtapon ng pera sa pagbili ng condom, pills o contraceptive.

For more details on the symbols and abbreviations used, check out http://www.fertilityfriend.com/layouts/ttc/help/chart_key.html (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/layouts/ttc/help/chart_key.html)

Please check out http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php?topic=196.msg1050#msg1050 (http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php?topic=196.msg1050#msg1050) for other things I shared related to this topic.

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: yhamslove® on March 11, 2010, 08:40:07 am
Daddy Jojo, thank you ha!

You're right, every woman's menstrual cycle changes from time to time kaya natatakot din akong gamitin yung "Rhythm Method".  Sa mga dukhang katulad ko, kailangan talagang MAG-INGAT ng husto.  Having a baby is a lifetime responsibility. So as husband and wife, dapat maging responsible din in becoming intimate with our partners.

Thanks again Daddy Jo, for this very enlightening information.

May I ask, Daddy Jo... are you an OB?  :D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on March 12, 2010, 05:52:24 am
Hi,

You're welcome.  I'm not an OB.  OBese, pwede pa hehe.

My mother had worked as a Nursing Aide in the nursery section of a large private hospital.  She would bring home used OB-Gyn books that had been disposed by some doctors' clinics.  She loved to read and I would usually find her dozing off on the couch.  She'd be almost always asleep because she worked from 9 PM to 6 AM.

It was during my adolescent years (13-17) when I got interested with the pictures and illustrations in those books.  You know, when those of my age were already looking at pornographic magazines, I was looking at female anatomy, pregnancy and breastfeeding!

By the time Sex Education was one of my subjects in 4th Year, in the public high school I was attending, I was very familiar with Reproductive Health.  So medyo sikat ng konti, especially with the girls.  Our teacher then, who was female, presented the topic with some malice.  I was cool with talking about it.

Years later, May 1998, I worked in an NGO that advocates Natural Family Planning.

I believe that when people, even the young, when taught properly about reproductive health, will develop a respect for the human body.  When I was single, I wasn't as impulsive as my peers.  I told myself that intimacy, kissing, sex...is for married people.  I found someone with the same line of thinking and she's now my wife.

Daddy Jojo, thank you ha!

You're right, every woman's menstrual cycle changes from time to time kaya natatakot din akong gamitin yung "Rhythm Method".  Sa mga dukhang katulad ko, kailangan talagang MAG-INGAT ng husto.  Having a baby is a lifetime responsibility. So as husband and wife, dapat maging responsible din in becoming intimate with our partners.

Thanks again Daddy Jo, for this very enlightening information.

May I ask, Daddy Jo... are you an OB?  :D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: yhamslove® on March 12, 2010, 08:03:03 am
@ Daddy Jo:

I told myself that intimacy, kissing, sex...is for married people.  I found someone with the same line of thinking and she's now my wife.

You're ONE IN A MILLION Daddy Jo!! Sana lahat ng guys tulad mo mag-isip!!

Say ko sa profile pic mo: \m/
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommytoni29 on March 12, 2010, 11:19:14 am
sori sis ask uli ako kasi yung last na mens ko feb 05, safe ba ako nung march, 9 & 10 withdrawal kasi ginamit namin fertile ba ako that time? wala pa kasi ako hanggang ngayon. thanks.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: AKA on March 16, 2010, 02:17:07 pm
have a question mga sis..

just got my period last march 9 after giving birth last Oct 20,2009. considered safe pa ako di ba? regular naman menstrual period ko nung wala pa akong baby, just wandering lang if it will still apply ngayong nanganak na ako..

thanks
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on March 16, 2010, 04:01:37 pm
Hi,

Sori ha.  Hindi ako si Sis pero gusto ko sana sagutin ang question mo.  I hope okay lang.

Ang alam ko after giving birth, one could not get pregnant while breastfeeding (Lactational Amenorrhea Method - Natural Family Planning).  If breastfeeding is not done or stopped, the regular fertility cycle and menstruation period will return. 

have a question mga sis..

just got my period last march 9 after giving birth last Oct 20,2009. considered safe pa ako di ba? regular naman menstrual period ko nung wala pa akong baby, just wandering lang if it will still apply ngayong nanganak na ako..

thanks
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: AKA on March 16, 2010, 05:21:46 pm
so i guess safe pa naman ako daddy jojo noh.. hehe
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on March 17, 2010, 04:48:11 am
Basta breastfeed ng breastfeed lang.  It's one of those amazing facts...your body goes into a sort of nurturing mode...it's "activated" or "unlocked" the moment your newborn latches and feeds...a signal is sent to the brain and the body responds...stop muna ang procreation ability.  Ang galing ano.

so i guess safe pa naman ako daddy jojo noh.. hehe

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: princessalyanna on March 07, 2011, 07:11:13 am
hi,  i would like to ask lang if safe ba kapag 1st daya after ng period ginawa un? pasok pa ba siya sa safe days ng calendar method? kase feb 27 start ng period ko then march 5 kame nagdo. is it safe ba? im regular din pala..
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on March 07, 2011, 01:54:20 pm

i think safe pa naman yun Sis kase Day 7 pa naman yun. ang mga unsafe days are from Day 9 to 18.

i know how it feels sis. kami nga we do it Day 11 mas delikado pero may kasama namang withdrawal method naman yung samen. ang kaso sa ngayon we cannot fully trust ang withdrawal method, dami pa ding pumapalya.

im waiting for march 15 or 16 para sa next period ko...hayy sis pag di ako nagkameron lagot!! :'(
ipag pray mo din ako ha kase 4months pa lang ako kakapanganak, CS pa
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on March 09, 2011, 04:14:47 pm
Hi MommyLala,

Sorry for the delay on my reply ha.  Dami kong PM at questions to answer sa main board.

Quick answer. Hindi ka mabubuntis.

Ovulation/Peak Day = March 2
Fertile Days = Feb 26 to March 3

*according to Billings/Ovulation Method 28 day Fertility Cycle

Reasons:

Iyang unsafe o fertile days na Day 9 to 18 ay estimate lang at pinahaba ha...according to the Standard Days Method. (http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,20694.msg289857.html#msg289857)  Para iyan sa my fertility cycle na 26 to 32 days.  Meron akong ginawang computation sa topic na When is the most fertile day/s when you are in 30days cycle? (http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,24612.msg338619.html#msg338619)

Relax ka lang.  Kung ganyan na anxious ka baka maapektuhan ang cycle mo at ma-delay ka.


i think safe pa naman yun Sis kase Day 7 pa naman yun. ang mga unsafe days are from Day 9 to 18.

i know how it feels sis. kami nga we do it Day 11 mas delikado pero may kasama namang withdrawal method naman yung samen. ang kaso sa ngayon we cannot fully trust ang withdrawal method, dami pa ding pumapalya.

im waiting for march 15 or 16 para sa next period ko...hayy sis pag di ako nagkameron lagot!! :'(
ipag pray mo din ako ha kase 4months pa lang ako kakapanganak, CS pa

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on March 10, 2011, 09:40:51 am
a big thanks daddy jojo! at least kahit papano parang nabunutan ako ng tinik  ;)
God Bless you more!
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: sweetest_thing on March 11, 2011, 01:10:48 pm
me naman, i decided to stop taking pills last december 'coz i want to shift to NFP 'coz i already used this type of family planning last 2008 successfully. Unfortunately, after 1 menstrual cycle last dec26, hindi na ko nagkaroon for the month of january. i thought pwede ko na adapt calendar method when i had my menstruation last dec (hindi na siya mens due to pills). we did it once on day 8 with withdrawal pa and refrained from having contact from day 9 up to the time that i know i was safe.  but eto, i'm now pregnant again for the third time and my baby is just 1 year and 3 months. okay lang, all babies are blessing, kaya lang in order to successfully used NFP, per my ob, you have to get the average of your three menstrual cycles in order to determine your safe and unsafe days. sa case ko kasi, 1 menstrual cycle pa lang kaya siguro ganun.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on March 11, 2011, 01:47:40 pm
mommy sweetest_thing: yan nga din yung question ko before. ako kc nagbabased from my two months cycle, so dapat pala tatlo. :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: sweetest_thing on March 13, 2011, 07:34:01 pm
^yup, yun sbi ng ob ko when i had my post natal check up 1 month after i gave birth kasi ayoko na sana mag-pills gusto calendar method e sabi nga niya kelangan nga daw makuha muna average of 3 months menstrual cycle...ano na gamit mu ngayon na contraceptive method sis?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on March 31, 2011, 04:43:07 pm

Hi mga mommies / daddies  :)
Sa mga nababasa ko medyo naguguluhan kasi ako,
Itatanong ko nalang sainyo paano ba tong calendar method?
IF kakatapos lang ng period ko, mga ilang days ba yung unsafe?
May nakita ako sa google na picture nung calendar method,

(http://i51.tinypic.com/1e1e83.jpg)

ang pag kakaalam ko kasi, karamihan sa nag sasabi, 3 days b4 period safe pa yun ..
tapos sabi dito sa calendar na to, 12 days ang unsafe days (kasi 12 yung naka X)
Pero pag dating ng date 23, kung mapapansin nyo wala na syang X gani2 na sya [ ] safe days
at 10days b4 magka period is safe na?
Akala ko 3 days b4 period ang safe? nakalagay kasi sa bandang huli parang 10days..
Sorry medyo naguguluhan ako,
Ask ko if safe paba ang 10days b4 period?  :-\

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: arvi on April 06, 2011, 11:50:12 pm
mommies!!!
 
 im so bothered right now. hindi pa kc ako ngkakapgdecide kung pills or injectable ang gagamitin ko. i gave birth kc last august 08,09. normal lang naman ang mens after giving birth sabi ni OB ko, mine lasted for almost two weeks. then after 1month ako ulet ngkaroon pero sobrang konti lang and it lasted about 3days lang. what suprised me was that hindi pa ncocomplete ang 30day-cycle ko eh ngkaroon ulet ako so parang 2times akong ngkaroon in a month. pero like the previous one, it didnt last that long too and spots lang sya. then after another month, mga 2 1/2 month after i gave birth, hubby and i had a contact pero hindi kami natapos. by that time di pa dumadating yung mens ko. then nasundan ulet ng isa pang contact which was not done successfully again kc parang ngkaron ng post-trauma c hubby na mabuntis ulet ako. i suppose to have my period na 2nd week of nov pero until now wala parin sya. huhu. 3mos palang si baby and im worried na im preggy again.
 
 it is really possible to get preggy due to pre-c*m? or ngaadjust pa yung cycle ng period ko that's why di prin ako ngkakaroon until now? pls help, i can't wait another week na ganito ang feeling.
 
 thanks in advance mommies!!

i think your not...kasi ganyan dn ako before bago dumating yung "mens" ko talaga..
 una mga 1month lang dinugo ulit ako ulit..pero mga umaga lang meron talaga..mga 3days din ng last un..and red talaga yung dugo..kala ko un n un..the next month..dinugo ulit ako pero this time, patak lang..after nun 10months akong walang mens..and in between that date we had contact n hubby..naparanoid din ako..until the next month ng mens ko..normal na this time..so wait k lang..pero mas maganda na rin n wag muna kaung magcontact ni hubby hanggat wala pa mens m...:D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: sweetest_thing on April 10, 2011, 10:26:08 pm
@sis kriszzle: para hindi ka ma-confused, count the first day of your mens as day 1, so from day 1 to day 7, safe mag-contact pero from day 8-19, iwas muna kasi yun yung unsafe days mo, day 14 yung pinaka-fertile day, tapos from day 20 up to the time na magkaroon ka, safe na uli, counting 1st day of mens as day 1 uli pero alam ko dapat regular ang cycle mo para maging succesul ito.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on April 18, 2011, 10:04:31 am
^ Salamat sa info sis  ;D
Tagal kong nag hintay na may sumagot sa tanong kong to ..  ::)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: MmyJorayma on April 18, 2011, 01:29:12 pm
ganito lang lagi kong ginagawa... since regular ang aking menstruation...

1. Mark Day 1 of your menstration period. Example : April 1
2. Starting from Day 1, count 14 days. Then Mark the 14th day. Example: April 14
3. From Day 14, count 5 days backwards. Then Mark the 5th day. Example: April 10
4. From Day 14, count 5 days forward. Then Mark the 5th  day. Example: April 18

So... April 10 - April 18 ang UNSAFE period ko..We TOTALLY abstain from these days.

sana makatulong...
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on April 21, 2011, 02:51:20 am
Hi ¸¸.♥ кяιzzℓє ♥.¸¸

I've been wanting to reply to your post.  Thank you for providing the calendar.

The Calendar Method is obselete.  However there's a calendar-based method that has been developed by experts this is the Standard Days Method.

Here's another way of getting your fertile and infertile days.

Ovulation, that day when a woman releases an egg, occurs 14 days BEFORE the next menstruation period.(1) 

When ovulation day is near, women secret a slippery type of cervical mucus that resembles raw egg white.  A woman's Vagina is acidic and sperms immediately die once they are deposited there.

When sperms are protected by this type of cervical mucus, they can live up to 5 days. So let's extend those days when one could get pregnant.  So from 14 to 19 days BEFORE the next menstruation period, pregnancy may occur.

A woman's egg can live up to 2 days.  So we will further extend those fertile days up 13 days BEFORE the next menstruation.

This gives us the 6 days when a woman is said to be fertile.






(1)The reason why we count starting from the first day of the previous menstruation period is because this day is already definite.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: anemig_ecam on May 04, 2011, 03:18:49 am
kami din ni hubby...calendar method...but I tried injectables for 3 quarters...1st month I stopped...grabe yung mens co...t'was the 1st time na nagka-stain aco...as in super overflow...I really need to use adult diaper...and instead of just having 3days of mens...it was 8 days...

super naka-sira sya sa system co...now naging irregular pa co... :'(

kaya as much as possible...do the natural methods...safe pa sa'ting mga mommies...
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on May 05, 2011, 04:00:40 pm
hi mga mommies! eto na naman ako worried na naman coz im thinking baka mabuntis ako kase nasa unsafe days ako when we had our "do". my first period is april16 (Day1). and we had contacts (withdrawal) on the following days on April 28,29,30. (Day 13,14,15)  peek days :'(  :(

mga mommies, pls comfort me naman..im very much stressed pag naiisip ko kc mag 6months pa lang baby ko. my next period should be on May16. medyo worried lang kaya nagsosolicit ng advise po.

OT: calling the attention of Daddy Jojo. pls
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on May 05, 2011, 04:47:42 pm
Hi! Salamat sa lahat ng info nyo ..  ;)
Hmmm.. 100% effective po ba yan?  ;D
Kahit ba nag do kayo sa safe days nyo tapos may nakalusot na sperm,
100% na wala tlagang mabubuo?  ???
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on May 06, 2011, 09:53:04 am
@sis kriszzle: para hindi ka ma-confused, count the first day of your mens as day 1, so from day 1 to day 7, safe mag-contact pero from day 8-19, iwas muna kasi yun yung unsafe days mo, day 14 yung pinaka-fertile day, tapos from day 20 up to the time na magkaroon ka, safe na uli, counting 1st day of mens as day 1 uli pero alam ko dapat regular ang cycle mo para maging succesul ito.

sori sis now ko lang nakita yung question mo..calendar with withdrawal kami ni hubby. ang kaso kinakabahan ako ngayon kase we had our contacts sa mga fertile days ko. even inexplain ko sa kaniya naawa naman ako, since he had his vacation natapat pa sa mga fertile days ko.  :'(


first day period april 16. tas we had our contacts (april 28, 29, 30.) eh Day 13,14,15 ko pa naman yun.waahhhhhh. march16 yung date na nagkameron ako last month.

May 16 pa naman next period kung sakali, medyo paranoid lang kc nga may hehe ;D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on May 07, 2011, 04:41:23 pm
Hi MommyLala

Thirty Days ang Cycle mo.  For the month of Mar. to Apr. lang.  Ano kaya ang range ng cycle mo? Lagi bang 30 days?  Ano ang Feb. to Mar?  Jan. to Feb?  Dec. to Jan?

May 17 ang possible na next menstruation period mo (kasi unlike January and March, ang April ay 30 days lang)

Sabi ng isang OB-Gyn. sa isang video feature, ang Ovulation o pag-release ng egg ay 14 days BEFORE the next ovulation.

So, dapat magbilang tayo pabalik mula sa May 17.

May 4 ang ovulation day mo.

Sabi rin ng mga OB-Gyn, kayang mabuhay ng sperm hanggang 3-5 days (kung mapro-protektahan ito ng healthy, stretchy, raw egg-white type na cervical mucus mo).

April 30 to May 4 possible ito. 

Sabi ulit nila, hanggang 2 days na pwede mabuhay naman ang egg.

Therefore ang fertile days mo ay April 30 to May 5.

Possible na wala pa namang strethcy egg-white type na mucus noong Apr. 30.

Sana subukan mo rin i-observe ang mucus secretions mo.  Mas accurate ito na indicator kung fertile ka o hindi.  Kapag malauhog at stretchy...healthy yon.  Kapag parang beads or sticky, hindi mabubuntis.

So kahit na according to your calendar-based method eh fertile ka...pwedeng hindi, if you have checked your mucus earlier in the morning or the previous morning (Two Day Method, Billings/Mucus/Ovulation Method) 


Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on May 08, 2011, 01:09:43 pm
Daddy jojo,
Paano ba malalaman kung anong days ako safe?
Nagtanong na kasi ako kay mama lala about dito,
Sinulat ko sa calendaryo nung March lang kung kelan unang period ko
Binilang ko hanggang ngayon kung ilang days bago ako magkaroon
Then 25 days lang meron na agad ako ..
Hindi pala regular yun ..  :'(
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on May 09, 2011, 09:06:15 am
@Daddy Jojo: eto po yung mga cycle days ko: Period as follows: Dec16, Jan16, Feb16, March15,April16.

Pls enlighten me po sa pagcocount (medyo confusing). When is the start of counting po? First Day of Period until ?? Let say in my case po..March15 up to April 15.kc my next period was april 16..32days di ba po? :-\

At tama po kayo daddy jojo..i starte to observe yung CM ko..(and based on my observation theres a secretion only on May 2 to 4(stretchy and sticky). So i think not possble na maging preggy ako siguro po i'll follow yung Two-Day Method, i think mas OK po siya...

Thanks

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on May 09, 2011, 09:37:44 am
Hello ¸¸.♥ кяιzzℓє ♥.¸¸,

Safe day, kung pag-punta mo sa CR sa umaga (ex. pagkagising) walang slippery or wet feeling down there. Kung dry, especially sa loob...hindi ka mabubuntis.

(http://nfp.marquette.edu/images/peak_fertillity.gif)
▲HINDI SAFE kung meron ka nito.  Pwedeng mabuntis.

Kung hindi dry o gusto mo makasiguro sa observation mo...try mo kumuha ng sample ng iyong secretion (yung normal na lumalabas sa babae) using a finger.   Tingnan mo ang quality.  Kung parang butil (bead) ang nakuha mo or sticky...safe pa rin daw pag ganyan.

Kung malauhog, hindi ka safe...fertile ka. I-observe mo siya sa pagitan ng iyong thumb at index or middle finger.  I-stretch mo.  The more stretchy ang cervical mucus, the more fertile.

(http://nfp.marquette.edu/images/fertillity_level.gif)

Ito ang mas effective na pang check kesa mag-estimate ng days sa calendar.  Ito ang ginagamit sa maraming paraan ng Natural Family Planning: Two-Day Method (TDM), sa Billings/Cervical Mucus/Ovulation Method (OM) at sa SymptoThermal Method (STM).

Explanation:

Pagpasok ng Sperm sa Vagina, namamatay agad sila dahil sa acid doon.  Walang nabubuhay sa kanila.  Kahit posible ang mabuhay at makarating sila sa loob, hindi makakapasok sa Cervix.  Naka-seal iyon.  May sticky na cervical mucus na nagsasara sa pinapasukan doon. Hindi mabubuntis kasi hindi makakapunta kung saan puwedeng mahanap ang egg.

Mabubuhay lang ang Sperm kung meron nitong malauhog na Cervical Mucus/Fluid.  Stretchy ito at parang yung "puti" ng hilaw na itlog. Ito ang magpo-protekta sa Sperm para hindi mamatay sa acid at makaabot sa Egg. 

Pang-double check.  Calendar-based method.

Kailan nangyayari itong pagkakaroon ng malauhog na Cervical Fluid?
Nagkakaroon nito kung malapit nang mag-ovulate o magrelease ng egg.

Kailan nago-ovulate?
14 days bago ang susunod na menstruation period

Kung 25 days ang menstruation cycle, kailan ito?
25-14=11, Sa Day 11 pagkatapos ng last menstruation period.

So, kailan ka magkakaroon ng malauhog na Cervical Fluid at masasabing fertile o pwede mabuntis?
Mga  3-5 Days bago mag-release ng egg. Days 7, 8, 9, 10 at 11 ito kung 25 days ang Menstruation Cycle mo  (Remember, on this one, magbilang ka ng araw simula sa unang araw ng last menstruation period mo).

Pwede mabuhay ang sperm at ma-fertilize ang egg sa mga days na ito.  Ang egg ay mabubuhay lang ng 2 days. Pagkatapos nito, safe na ulit.

So, ang lahat ng fertile days mo Days 7-12. Safe Days, Day 1-6 at Day 13 to 25




*Hindi applicable sa iyo ang magbilang ng 14 days mula sa last menstruation period mo. Magiging mali ang estimate mo (dahil pang 28 days lang yun)

*Dahil madalas hindi naman regular ang menstruation period.  Dapat alamin din ang safe days kung nag-28 days ka o nag-30 days, etc.  Kailang pagsamahin ang safe days ng mga ito.  Kung medyo mabusisi ito para sa iyo.  Paki-subukan ang Standard Days Method.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on May 09, 2011, 07:00:36 pm
Hi daddy jojo!
Maraming salamat sa info at efforts ..  :)
Medyo naliwanagan ako kahit papaano ..
Nung unang period ko kasi this month May 4 at kahapon lang natapos
At nung april naman, April 9 ang una kong period ..
Tapos yung sa march naman, nakalimutan ko date basta sinulat ko sya sa kalendaryo
Tinatamad ako tumingin medyo masakit kasi ulo ko ..
Pero nung bilangin ko cmula march at april to may 25 days lang talaga  :'(
At yung cnasabi mo jan sa picture, madalas ako nakakahipo ng ganyan everytime na iihi syempre nag wawash ako ..
At yun nga merong ganyan .. :(
Inaalis ko nalang hindi ko alam kung ano yun basta madulas sya .. ???
susubukan ko gawin yung sinabi mo para malaman ko if safe ba ako o hindi ..
Maraming salamat ulit daddy jojo ..
Malaki naitulong nito sakin  :)


Wag ka mawawala if may mga tanong pa ako ha? Hehe thanks ..  :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on May 09, 2011, 07:56:09 pm

Kailan nago-ovulate?
14 days bago ang susunod na menstruation period

Kung 25 days ang menstruation cycle, kailan ito?
25-14=11, Sa Day 11 pagkatapos ng last menstruation period.

So, kailan ka magkakaroon ng malauhog na Cervical Fluid at masasabing fertile o pwede mabuntis?
Mga  3-5 Days bago mag-release ng egg. Days 7, 8, 9, 10 at 11 ito kung 25 days ang Menstruation Cycle mo  (Remember, on this one, magbilang ka ng araw simula sa unang araw ng last menstruation period mo).

Pwede mabuhay ang sperm at ma-fertilize ang egg sa mga days na ito.  Ang egg ay mabubuhay lang ng 2 days. Pagkatapos nito, safe na ulit.

So, ang lahat ng fertile days mo Days 7-12. Safe Days, Day 1-6 at Day 13 to 25




  Sorry daddy jojo medyo naguluhan lang ako, ngayon ko lang kasi nalaman tong mga ganito

Diba sabi mo dito;
Kelan nago-ovulate?
14 days bago ang susunod na menstruation period
so dahil 25 days lang ako bago period ko, edi irregular ako diba? saan ko sisimulan ang pagbibilang ng 14 days? sa unang huling period ko ba? or sa huling date kung kelan na nag stop period ko? May 4 kasi ako nagkaroon at May 8 lang natapos .. Saan ko sisimulan? sa May 4 o sa May 8?

Tapos dito naman sa isa,
Kung 25 days ang menstruation cycle, kailan ito?
25-14=11, Sa Day 11 pagkatapos ng last menstruation period.
hmmm dahil sa 25 days lang ako, 11 day nalang ba? hindi na 14 katulad nung tanong ko sa taas?

So, kailan ka magkakaroon ng malauhog na Cervical Fluid at masasabing fertile o pwede mabuntis?
Mga  3-5 Days bago mag-release ng egg. Days 7, 8, 9, 10 at 11 ito kung 25 days ang Menstruation Cycle mo  (Remember, on this one, magbilang ka ng araw simula sa unang araw ng last menstruation period mo).

dito naman, ano tong 3-5days na bago mag release ng egg? bago ba magka period?  ??? at yung day 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, saan ko sisimulang bilangin tong day na to? dun ba sa kung kelan ang unang huling period ko?
Example:
May 4 ang unang period ko, so kung dito ako mag iistart up to day 11, means May 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 ang fertile days ko ganon po ba?

Pwede mabuhay ang sperm at ma-fertilize ang egg sa mga days na ito.  Ang egg ay mabubuhay lang ng 2 days. Pagkatapos nito, safe na ulit.
You mean after ng mga days na to safe na ulit?

So, ang lahat ng fertile days mo Days 7-12. Safe Days, Day 1-6 at Day 13 to 25
kung safe na ako sa day 13 to 25, so sa date na May 17 to 29 safe na ako?

Ang last question ko naman, 100% effective ba ito? kahit ba may makalusot na sperm sa loob, pero safedays naman sure ba talaga na walang mabubuo?  ???


sensya na sa pagiging makulit ko, gusto ko lang na mas maliwanagan pa lalo since wala pa kasi ako masyadong alam about dito .. at para narin sigurado ako kung kelan ako safe .. natatakot na kasi talaga ako masundan pa yung baby ko, ayaw ko naman ng contraceptives hehe.. salamat daddy jojo ill wait for your reply ..  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on May 10, 2011, 09:57:44 am
Hi ¸¸.♥ кяιzzℓє ♥.¸¸

I'm at work but very interested in answering your questions kahit quick reply lang...then try ko ulit sagutin sa weekend ha.

Irregular...in my interpretation, this means na kung minsan ang menstruation cycle mo ay 30 days, then 31, then 25.

Yung start lang ng menstruation period mo ang pinakaimportante.  Make this your Day 1.

Walang value yung last day ng menstruation period.

May 4 - First day ng mens mo - this is your Day 1

Kung 25 days uli ang cycle ng mens mo, May 30 ang possible date ng next.

Count back 14 days from May 30.

Madali ito kung nakatingin ka sa calendar kasi tingnan mo lang ang numbers sa itaas ng May 30.

May 16 ang possible date ng ovulation mo.  Dito ka magre-release ng egg.  Dahil 5 days pwede mabuhay ang sperm at two days naman for the egg, ang fertile days mo...o yung pwede ka mabuntis ay:

May 12 to 17

So today and tomorrow (May 10-11), safe ka.

Okay sana kung ma-observe mo cervical mucus mo every morning of May 12-17.  Para kung sakaling di naiwasan at nakapag-all-the-way kayo ni hubby...alam mo kung naging possible na safe ka pa rin pala.

Pag walang malauhog o stretchy mucus in the morning...safe pa rin.  Patay ang sperm sa acid sa Vagina.  (Kung gusto mo double sure ka, gawin mong two days na dapat walang mstretcy mucus.  Kung the previous morning wala ring stretchy mucus, mas sure ka na safe, see Two Day Method).

Starting May 18 and until May 29, safe days.

If your period starts again on May 30, safe pa rin, hanggang June 5, safe.  Ito ay kung 25 days ang cycle mo ulit ha.

At this point, di kita mabigyan ng estimate kung i-combine ang iyong 25, 30 at iba pang cycle days.  For the mean time, observe mo mucus mo.  I'll try to get back on this thread, okay.






Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on May 12, 2011, 06:22:02 pm
Okay salamat ng marami daddy jojo ..  :)
Medyo naintindihan ko na hehe ..
Post ako ulit dito if may mga tanong ako ..
Hmmmm yung isang tanong ko hindi mo sinagot ..  :-\

100% effective po ba ito?
I mean yung pag naka all-the-way kami ni hubby sa date na safe ako,
Kahit ba na may makalusot na sperm sa loob, wala talagang mabubuo?  :-\

Nasa abroad kasi husband ko mga 2 years na kami hindi nag kikita at uuwi sya mga 3rd week nitong May
Meron na kami isang baby at baka sa pag dating niya may mabuo nanaman ..
Ayaw ko na talaga mabuntis ulit .. haha
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on May 12, 2011, 09:43:51 pm
96% Effective ang Two Day Method.  Pero ito ang pinaka-simple at madali sa lahat.

Bakit hindi 100%?  Siguro kasi mali ang paggamit...like mali ang observation.

The Sympto-Thermal Method: ~99% effective
The Creighton Method: >98% effective
The Billings Method: >97% effective
Two-Day Method: ~96%
Standard Days Method: ~95%
Ecological Breast-Feeding (LAM): ~94% effective

from http://www.natural-family-planning.info/index.htm

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on May 13, 2011, 10:10:57 am
Hi MommyLala

Thirty Days ang Cycle mo.  For the month of Mar. to Apr. lang.  Ano kaya ang range ng cycle mo? Lagi bang 30 days?  Ano ang Feb. to Mar?  Jan. to Feb?  Dec. to Jan?

May 17 ang possible na next menstruation period mo (kasi unlike January and March, ang April ay 30 days lang)

Sabi ng isang OB-Gyn. sa isang video feature, ang Ovulation o pag-release ng egg ay 14 days BEFORE the next ovulation.


So, dapat magbilang tayo pabalik mula sa May 17.

May 4 ang ovulation day mo.

Sabi rin ng mga OB-Gyn, kayang mabuhay ng sperm hanggang 3-5 days (kung mapro-protektahan ito ng healthy, stretchy, raw egg-white type na cervical mucus mo).

April 30 to May 4 possible ito. 

Sabi ulit nila, hanggang 2 days na pwede mabuhay naman ang egg.

Therefore ang fertile days mo ay April 30 to May 5.

Possible na wala pa namang strethcy egg-white type na mucus noong Apr. 30.

Sana subukan mo rin i-observe ang mucus secretions mo.  Mas accurate ito na indicator kung fertile ka o hindi.  Kapag malauhog at stretchy...healthy yon.  Kapag parang beads or sticky, hindi mabubuntis.

So kahit na according to your calendar-based method eh fertile ka...pwedeng hindi, if you have checked your mucus earlier in the morning or the previous morning (Two Day Method, Billings/Mucus/Ovulation Method) 





daddy jojo,
@Daddy Jojo: eto po yung mga cycle days ko: Period as follows: Dec16, Jan16, Feb16, March15,April16.

Pls enlighten me po sa pagcocount (medyo confusing). When is the start of counting po? First Day of Period until ?? Let say in my case po..March15 up to April 15.kc my next period was april 16..32days di ba po? :-\

At tama po kayo daddy jojo..i startde to observe yung CM ko..(and based on my observation theres a secretion only on May 2 to 4(stretchy talaga). So i think not possble na maging preggy ako siguro po i'll follow yung Two-Day Method, i think mas OK po siya...

Thanks



daddy jojo, pls help pagcocount...scared na po ako. pls pls.
pa review naman po yung situation ko...salamat po.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on May 13, 2011, 09:11:45 pm
Ah okay now i know na ..
Maraming salamat daddy jojo ..
Your the best ..  ;)
Everyday ko inoobserbahan yung parang madulas tuwing pag ihi ko ..
Medyo "Peak" nga sya ayon dun sa pinost mo dun sa picture ..
Pero nung 11 dry na dry ..
Kahapon lang ako nagkaroon ng ganito ..
Means hindi nga talaga safe ..  ;D
Maraming salamat ulit daddy jojo  ;)

bigyan mo nga ng definition ito daddy jojo yung tagalog ha ..  ;D
The Sympto-Thermal Method: ~99% effective
The Creighton Method: >98% effective
The Billings Method: >97% effective
Two-Day Method: ~96%
Standard Days Method: ~95%
Ecological Breast-Feeding (LAM): ~94% effective
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on May 17, 2011, 03:36:58 pm
Hi Mommy Lala,

Pag ganyan na nase-stress, baka lalong ma-delay ang period mo.

Para malaman kung ilan ang cycle days mo, magbilang ka starting sa first day ng menstruation period mo.  Ito ang iyong mga Day 1: Dec. 16, Jan. 16, Mar. 15, April 16. 

Dec.16 to Jan16 (30-days cycle)
Fertile days are Dec. 29 to Jan. 3 -> Ovulation on Jan. 1

Jan. 16 to Mar. 15 (29-days cycle)
Fertile days are Feb. 25 to March 2 -> Ovulation on March 1

Mar. 15 to Apr. 16 (31-days cycle)
Fertile days are Mar. 30 to Apr. 3 - Ovulation on Apr. 2

Base sa last three months na ito, heto ang next possible Fertile days mo.

29-Days Cycle
Apr. 28 to May 3 -> Ovulation/Peak Day is May 2

30-Days cycle
Apr. 29 to May 4 ->Ovulation/Peak Day is May 3

31-Days cycle
Apr. 30 to May 5 ->Ovulation/Peak Day is May 4

Next possible menstruation 
29-Days Cycle -> May 16
30-Days cycle - > May 17
31-Days cycle -> May 18

Sabi mo na-observe mo ang stretchy mucus noong May 2-4 (sa PM mo sa akin, May 3-5)

Notice mo yung estimated Ovulation/Peak days natin, May 2-4, parehas.  Kung hanggang May 5, meron pa ring stretchy na Cervical Mucus, magbilang ka ng 14 days after that...baka umabot pa hanggang May 19 ang next period mo.

Bakit sinama na fertile days ang Apr. 28, 29 at 30? 

Sinasabi kasi na kung may presence ng Cervical Mucus bago ang Ovulation/Peak day, pwedeng mabuhay ang sperm ng hanggang 3-5 days. 

(http://nfp.marquette.edu/images/fertillity_level.gif)

Sabi rin ng Ob-Gyn. na napanood ko sa isang video clip, ang pre-ejaculatory fluid ay merong sperm...na possible pa ring maka-fertilize ng egg. Ito ang basis kaya hindi recommended ang Withdrawal.

Please, paki-involve ang husband mo sa pago-observe ng fertility.  Dapat kayong dalawa at hindi lang ikaw ang concerned dito.

Ituloy ninyo lang ang pag-oobserve ng Cervical Mucus mo sa umaga, pagkabangon.  Ang husband mo ang magte-take note sa calendar.




Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on May 19, 2011, 07:25:53 pm
Daddy jojo, may balita ako..  ::)
May 19 ngayon, sabi mo May 12 to 17 ang unsafe days ko ..
Then May 18 to 29 ang safe days ko naman,
Para maka sigurado ako, palagi ko i checheck sa umaga yung cervical mucus ko ..
Kanina kasing umaga hanggang hapon sa tuwing umiihi ako,
palagi kong chinecheck yung cervical mucus ko, dry naman sya ..
Then ngayon2 lang pag ihi ko, bigla ko naramdaman na may tumulo ..
Then nung hawakan ko stechy sya at mala uhog ..  :(
Sabi mo pag ganun, hindi safe diba?
Ibig sabihin ba nito, kahit ba safe days maari ding hindi na safe dahil dun sa cervical mucus ko?  :'(
Nakakatakot kasi baka pag check ko sa umaga dry naman sya, tapos pag dating ng hapon o gabi bigla nalang ako magkakaroon nun kahit na safe ako nung araw na yun ..  :'(
Ano masasabi mo daddy jojo?

Hanggant hindi pa nakakauwi ng pinas yung husband ko,
Pinag aaralan ko talaga mabuti kung pano ko malalaman na safe ako o hindi ..
dahil next week uuwi na sya. syempre hindi maiiwasan if andito na sya ..
Ayaw na ayaw ko pa naman na mabuntis pa ulit ..  :'(
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on May 20, 2011, 09:15:49 am
Hi mga mommies, nagkaperiod na ko kahapon lang...whew! grabe ang stressed ko dun ah.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: dyepoi on May 27, 2011, 01:05:57 pm
help po confused ako kasi my wife hasd a perion last may 17 up to may 23 almost 7 day mens niya pnu ko malalaman kung kelan siya fertile.advised po
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: momskie Jane on May 27, 2011, 01:31:16 pm
wow, parang ang complicated naman talaga ng calendar method? Kailangan tama talaga ang counting.

Ibang birth control kasi gamit ko. And super nag-iba ang menstruation ko. kaka-1 year lang ng baby namin and this is my third month of mens since nanganak ako.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on May 27, 2011, 04:38:47 pm
Hi dyepoi,

Short simple answer.  Kung may malauhog na mucus ang wife mo down there, fertile siya.1

Ayan, walang complication, walang counting ha,  ;) momskie Jane



Detailed answer para sa iyo dyepoi.

Fertile ang wife mo, kung sa umaga pagbangon niya at paglakad papunta sa CR, ay nararamdaman niya na may slippery feeling down there.  Pag-upo niya sa CR pwedeng may lumabas sa kaniya na malauhog na mucus.  Kung kukuha siya ng sample at ii-stretch niya sa pagitan ng kaniyang hinlalaki (thumb) at hintuturo (index finger), para itong hilaw na itlog (raw egg-white).

(http://nfp.marquette.edu/images/fertillity_level.gif)

Depende sa pagkamalauhog nito ang taas ng kaniyang fertility.  Mas madali siyang mabuntis kung fluid at very stretchy ito.

Kung ito ay sticky at mabilog (bead), mahirap siyang mabuntis.

Ma-oobserve ninyo ito kung hindi ka naman nagdeposit ng semen at hindi naman sexually stimulated ang wife mo.  Malinaw na sa wife mo talaga at natural yung paglabas ng fluid.

Pwede ninyong gawing bahagi ito ng intimacy ninyo.  Every morning, observe ninyong dalawa or itanong mo sa wife mo.

Kung May 17 ang last menstruation period ng wife mo...

Possible na fertile siya from May 24 to June 4.2

Sa dates na ito, watch out na lang kayo kung magkaroon ang wife mo nitong malauhog na mucus.  Mas mabuti na kung wala at dry pa naman...mag-Withdrawal na lang muna kayo o huwag mag all-the-way, para ma-observe ninyo talaga.

Alamin mo ang cycle ng wife mo.  Take note lagi kung kailan ang first day ng menstruation period niya.  Bilangin mo ang araw...28 days ba? 30 days? 32 days?

Kailangan kasing malaman ninyo kung ano talaga ang cycle ng wife mo, para mas maging accurate at madagdagan pa ang possible non-fertile days.


1It ay ayon sa Billings/Ovulation Method (OM), sa SymptoThermal Method (STM), at Two-Day Method (TDM) ng Natural Family Planning (NFP)
2Ito ay ayon sa Standard Days Method (SDM) ng NFP.  Possible Fertile ang Days 8 to 19.  Ginagamit lang ito, kung ang fertility cycle ay 26 to 32 days.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: davesant32 on May 28, 2011, 12:26:27 pm
I'm newbie here, ganda ng post ni Daddy jojo dami ko natutunan!
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: dyepoi on May 30, 2011, 11:15:38 am
Salamat Daddy jojo.nalito po kasi ako.bale monitor ko po tlaga mens cyle niya.Nung April po nagkamens sya april 19 to april 25.tpos ngaun may 17 hanggang may 23.pwede po ba pkitrack kung kelan fertile days niya.tsaka tanung ko din db sage 7 day after..slamat in advance daddy jojo
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on May 30, 2011, 12:17:41 pm
Nag do kami ni hubby nung 24 ..
May 30 na ngayon hindi pa ako nagkakaroon at wala pang signs na magkakaroon ako ..
dati eveytime na malapit na ako magkaroon ng medyo brown spot sa pant liner ko
kahapon ko pa inoobserbahan expected ko, kahapon or now ako magkakaroon ..
Medyo kinakabahan ako na ppraning na ako  :'(
Normal lang ba ang ma'delay kapag nakipag talik? 
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on May 30, 2011, 11:11:18 pm
Hi dyepoi,

Ang importante lang tandaan ay ang first day ng menstruation period.  April 19 at May 17

Ibig sabihin 27 days ang cycle ng wife mo recently.

Para malaman kung kailan possible na nag-release ng egg ang wife mo, count 14 days pabalik, mula sa May 17.

This will give you May 3.  TInatawag din itong Ovulation or Peak Day.

Dahil sinasabing nabubuhay ang sperm ng 3-5 days, at ang egg naman ay 2 days...ang possible Fertile Days ng wife mo ay  April 29 to May 4.

Kung 27 days ulit ang cycle ng wife mo next time, ang possible na susunod na menstruation day niya ay June 14.

Ibig sabihin, ang mas accurate na estimated day ng susunod na pag-release ng egg ay June 1.

Ang bagong estimate ng Fertile days niya ay May 28 to June 2.

Dito sa mga days na ito mag-expect ka na magkaroon siya ng malauhog na cervical mucus.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: dyepoi on May 31, 2011, 08:54:34 am
Salamat ng marami Daddy Jojo...nalinawan n ako ngaun... ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: aian on June 06, 2011, 11:53:12 am
need ko po yung advise ninyo mga sis..na nganank po ako nung feb.. bale mix po  formula at breast feed si baby nung may 16 ako nag karoon tpos nag LM kami ni hubby nung may 29 withdrawal naman kaso di ba sabi nila madali daw mabuntis kasi malinis na malinis pa.. tapos n sundan pa once ata or twice medyo na prapraning ako kasi mag  4months pa lang ang baby ko..

please reply naman po..

Thank you
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on June 06, 2011, 02:34:21 pm
Hi aian

Sana madagdagan mo pa ang information na ibinigay mo para mas accurate ang pag-estimate natin.

Ano pa ang ibang dates ng first day ng menstruation mo?

Kailangan kasing malaman kung ano ba ang mga cycles mo.  Nao-observe mo rin kaya kung meron kang cervical mucus earlier on those days na nag LM kayo.

Kung ang last menstration period mo ay May 16 at kung ia-assume natin na 26 to 32 days ang cycle mo, we can check sa Standard Days Method (SDM).

May 24 to June 4 ang Days 8 to 19 mo.  Dapat nag-abstain kayo o hindi nag all-the-way sa mga araw na ito (na kasama rito ang May 29, 30, 31...etc).

In the past ba, successful kayo sa withdrawal?  Hindi nire-recommend ang withdrawal...kasi nga sabi ng OB Gyn merong sperm ang pre-ejaculatory fluid.  Pwede pa ring may makapasok at makapagfertilize sa egg. Meron mga couple na successful naman in their use of withdrawal.

There's hope.  Pakisabi lang kung ano-ano pa ang mga dates ng period mo para malaman natin talaga ang cycles mo.

Ang mas accurate na indication kung pwede mabuntis ay ang pagkakaroon ng cervical mucus o yung malauhog o madulas na fluid na nararamdaman sa umaga pagkagising o lumalabas sa katawan pag-upo sa CR.

O harapin kung anuman ang result ha.  Huwag gagawa ng hakbang na makakasama sa iyo ha.



Reference:

Standard Days Method
http://www.natural-family-planning.info/standard-days-method.htm
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: arvi on June 07, 2011, 02:57:22 pm
hi :)
 makikisinggit poh sa topic nio..
we also used calendar method ni hubby, nagstart ulit mens ko after giving birth nung feb 1 then mar 1 ulit,april 17 and last is may 12...
nag-do kami nung may 22 using also withdrawal,peo di ganun kadaling nagawa ni hubby un eh..peo sv niya wala naman daw nakapasok..pero nagwoworry prin ako..possible ba mabuntis nun?..thanks
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on June 09, 2011, 11:04:04 am
Hi Arvi

Menstruation Period Dates and Cycle

Feb.  1 to Mar.  1     <- 28 Days Cycle
Mar.  1 to Apr. 17     <- 46 Days (tama ba ito?)
Apr. 17 to May 12    <- 25 Days Cycle

Kung gagamitin natin dito ang Standard Days Method (SDM), ang May 22 ay 10 days after ng last menstruation period mo.  Dapat avoid na ang penetrative sex from May 19 to 30 (Days 8-19)

Possible na Fertile ka at pwedeng mabuntis noong May 22

Ito ay kung SDM lang ang gagamitin mo.  Mas madali i-compute sa mga mas comfortable sa paggamit ng calendar.

Pero mas accurate kung imo-monitor mo rin ang cervical mucus mo.  Sana mai-record mo ito kasabay ng tamang dates ng menstruation period mo at sexual intercourse.  Dapat involved si hubby.  Siya ang magsusulat.  Maraming opportunities for bonding pag nago-observe fertility ha.  Take advantage of them  ;D


Reference:

Standard Days Method
http://www.natural-family-planning.info/standard-days-method.htm

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: momazir on June 16, 2011, 11:05:44 am
thank you, Daddy Jojo, sa information. SDM din ang gamit namin ni husband. talagang niresearch ko itong mabuti kase nasundan agad ang second child namin 8 days before mag1 year old. super effective naman kase magtwo 2 years old na ang aming bunso. with combination of condom nga lang dun sa days na hindi pwede. ang kagandahan sa SDM effective sya hanggang sa 31 days ang menstrual cycle, tama po ba?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on June 16, 2011, 04:14:00 pm
Hi momazir,

Hanggang 32 days ang Standard Days Method (SDM).  Kaya kung and cycle ay 26 to 32 days (minsan 28 days, minsan 30 days)...pwedeng pwede ang SDM.

Sana, you could also try the more accurate Billings/Mucus/Ovulation Method (OM). 

Ang condom kasi may failure rate din.  May naturally occuring hole ang condom na pwedeng malusutan ng sperm.
(http://www.ashcofriendsforlife.org/condom_hole_and_sperm.jpg)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: momazir on June 17, 2011, 09:30:14 am
32 days po pala yun. nakakatakot naman po yung pagdating sa paggamit ng condom. meron din palang hole yun para maging dahilan upang mabuntis ang isang babae. sige, i'll try nga po yung OM.

thank you po, Daddy Jojo.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on June 17, 2011, 10:54:36 am
Hello Mommies!

I have question.

Is it safe po ba to have intercourse 2 to 3 days before your expected next period?

Say your expected period is June 19. Safe po ba yun?  ;) TIA
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: bebezeth on June 17, 2011, 11:52:54 am
sensya na po OT ang tanong me.
Hopefully my makalinaw.
Were not using calendar method but withdrawal lang.
Eh nung umalis si hubby nag do kami meron pa ako
konting mens nun nag start ang ang mens ko june 06 or 7
puwede pa ako ma-preggy kahit meron pa ako konti?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on June 17, 2011, 12:12:47 pm
Pinaka-safe daw sa lahat ng days yung bago mag-menstruation.

Up to about 13 days before menstruation

Ang release kasi ng egg, 14 days before the next menstruation.  Ang egg ay 24 hours lang daw pwede ma-fertilize. So kung 28 days ka, up to 13 days before mentruation na safe.

Note:The following chart is for a 28-day cycle
(http://www.maybebaby.com.au/gallery/images/1144828120Cycle.jpg)


"Meanwhile, the egg is fertile for about 24 hours after release."
from http://www.maybebaby.com.au/_the_science_behind_maybe_baby.php
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: dyepoi on June 17, 2011, 03:33:47 pm
@daddy jojo

Mukhang Buntis na wife ko.kasi expected namin june 14 mens niya kasi wala pa hanggang ngaun.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on June 17, 2011, 04:38:44 pm
Hi dyepoi

Di ba sabi ko, "Kung 27 days ulit ang cycle ng wife mo next time, ang possible na susunod na menstruation day niya ay June 14. "

Di pa natin alam kung 27 days nga  ba ulit ang wife mo.

Kung 30 days pala siya this time, baka today, June 17.

31 days -> June 18
32 days -> June 19

Di natin malalaman kung ano nga ba talaga, unless meron tayong record ng mg past cycles niya.

At kung hindi nga tayo nago-observe at nagre-record, ang isa pang posibilidad ay nagkamali tayo ng computation at baka napagkamalan nating safe day ang fertile day.  Kung ganito, may posibilidad na pwede ngang buntis ang misis mo.





Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: badangelbhel on June 17, 2011, 04:49:11 pm
galing naman ni daddy jo.. :) :)
tanong ko lang po sana kung anong natural method ang bagay sakin.. mag 3 months na baby ko and di pa kami nag - "do" ni hubby kasi baka mabuntis ako ulit.. hanggang ngayon kasi  wala pa akong menstruation..
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: dyepoi on June 18, 2011, 08:19:14 am
@Daddy jojo
Salamat sa info inoobserbahan ko nga mga sign.pero halos pareho lang ng symptoms ang magkakamens at buntis.correct me if im wrong.kasi si misis nahihilo na at mabugat pakiramdam.pero ng do naman kami nd yung binigay mu fertile days.basta observe muna.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: hane on June 19, 2011, 12:42:41 am

hello po ask ko lang po sana

june 4,2011 first day ng mens ko eh nag do po kami ng june14 after po namin hmmm mga an hour sobra init ko
po natanong niya nga po kung may lagnat ako sabi ko wala. fertile po ba ako nun 25days cycle po ako ee. :)
thank you sobra na bothered lang po..
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on June 19, 2011, 06:48:38 am
  Naku sis unsafe ka ng araw na yan ..
Sigurado fertile ka .. xD
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ysLim on June 19, 2011, 03:59:14 pm
this thread is sooooo informative thanks to daddy jojo! like it! ;D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on June 19, 2011, 10:36:43 pm
Hi hane

Ano pa ang ibang date ng first day ng menstruation period mo?  Ano pa ang ibang naging cycle mo?

Anyway, kung 25 days at June 4 ang last starting date. Ang possible na next date ay June 30.  Ang 14 days bago itong next estimated date ay June 16.

Pwedeng nag-release ka ng egg noong June 16.  Possible na yung sperm noong June 14 ay mabuhay hanggang June 16.  Pwede kang mabuntis (at baka girl ang maging baby mo).
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on June 20, 2011, 09:19:50 am
Daddy jojo,
Pano mo naman nalaman na girl ang magiging baby niya?  ;D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ysLim on June 20, 2011, 01:47:26 pm
^ang alam ko ang sperms na nagdadala ng x-chromosome ay mas mahaba ang lifespan kung ikukumpara sa sperms na nagdadala ng y-chromosome. at  since June14 ang last release of sperms, malamang ang mga natira hanggang June16 ay ang mga nagdadala ng x-chromosome. kung nafertilize nga ang egg na nirelease niya noong June16 ng sperm na nandoon since June14, malamang babae nga baby niya. ;)

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on June 22, 2011, 09:25:12 am
*
Feb 16 - March 15 (26days)
March 15 - April 16 (31days)
April 16 - May 19 (32days)

Daddy Jojo, heres my last question/s  ;), last na talaga, nalilito pa din kase ako eh. Also Mommies, pwede po kayong mag answer. Gusto ko lang maliwanagan. TIA

1.) First Pakicheck naman po kung tama yung counting ko ng mga cycle days ko sa taas * ?

2.) If 32days din ang next cycle ko, possible June21 ako magkakameron, counting 14days backward my ovulation day or peak day is June 8 and my fertile days are June 4-8 (until now June22 na wala pa din ako)

3.) We had our contact last June 4, 5 and 20 (withdrawal).

4.)Pahabol po pala, bakit ganun parang na observe ko pa din yung mucus ko nung June 18,19,20, pero parang watery lang naman sya na konting sticky. Eh di ba dapat ma aappear lang yun nung fertile days ko pero parang dry naman ako nung time na yun ..kaya po nalilito ako. Confusing pa din saken yung quality ng mucus ko.











 

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on June 22, 2011, 06:01:14 pm
Hi ¸¸.♥ кяιzzℓє ♥.¸¸

Tama si ysLim

Yung sperms na maydala ng chromosome para maging possible na girl ang baby ay mas matagal ang buhay, pero mas mabagal.

Kaya, noong June 14, pagpasok ng sperms, nauna agad ang mga mas mabilis lumangoy (at gumapang) na "boy"-sperms.

Pero since di pa lumalabas ang egg.  Hintay muna ang mga sperms.  Pagdating ng egg, yung mga nauna na "boy"-sperms ay malamang mga patay na...at yung mabagal ng "girl"-sperms ay nakarating na at buhay pa.


Hi mommylala

Ask ka lang ng ask ng questions.  Share mo lagi ang mga observations mo dito para meron tayong actual samples.  Matututo tayong lahat sa thread na ito.

Ang galing mo na mag-count!

Feb 16 - March 15 (26days)
March 15 - April 16 (31days)
April 16 - May 19 (32days)

Perfect.  Tama lahat.

Teka, dapat gamitin mo lahat ng ito para paniguro mo.  Mas accurate pa nga sana kung may record ka ng shortest at longest cycle mo.

Kung 26 to 32 days lagi ang cycle mo.  Pinaka-safe para sa iyo ang gamitin na lang ang Standard Days Method (SDM).
http://www.natural-family-planning.info/standard-days-method.htm

Kung may time ako, try ko himayin itong SDM. 



Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: spums on June 22, 2011, 10:06:08 pm
hi my gf have mens last july 9 then we have sex on 13 & 17 .. now july 22 ng discharge ng parang white mens, something na parang white na parang sa itlog or parang sipon? it possible ba na mabuntis siya? thnks po.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ysLim on June 23, 2011, 02:29:51 pm
^^ahh ganun pala daddy jojo mabilis ang mga boy sperms at mabagal ang girl sperms. ok at least medyo may idea na ako pano makabuo ng boy next time! hehe  ;D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on June 23, 2011, 02:52:51 pm
Hi Daddy Jojo, thanks ha at least ngayon natuto na ko mag-count. ;D

Thanks for sharing the link for the Standards Day Method, i think applicable nga saken to kase usually ang cycle ko for the past 5months eh 26 to 32 days cycle. Eh Daddy Jojo, back to my questions, di mo pa sinagot yung questions # 2, 3 and 4. Included yung June 4 & 5 sa unsafe eh. Pano na yun? And also pls review my question # 4 kase feeling ko medyo late ata pag appear ng mucus na yan, as my observation. parang meron pa din ako nung june 17 up to 20. (not sure kung quality mucus nga yun). Does it mean possibleng June24 pa ko magkaroon? Eh di 35days cycle na po? Wala pa din kase ako ngayon eh. TIA

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: hane on June 23, 2011, 05:57:06 pm
Hi hane

Ano pa ang ibang date ng first day ng menstruation period mo?  Ano pa ang ibang naging cycle mo?

Anyway, kung 25 days at June 4 ang last starting date. Ang possible na next date ay June 30.  Ang 14 days bago itong next estimated date ay June 16.

Pwedeng nag-release ka ng egg noong June 16.  Possible na yung sperm noong June 14 ay mabuhay hanggang June 16.  Pwede kang mabuntis (at baka girl ang maging baby mo).

Last May 11 po first day ko.

kaso po nag condom naman po kami nung last June 14 safe pa rin po ba yun. :|
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: hane on June 23, 2011, 06:27:33 pm
  Naku sis unsafe ka ng araw na yan ..
Sigurado fertile ka .. xD

nakow sis patay
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on June 24, 2011, 08:35:30 am
Hi hane

Ano pa ang ibang date ng first day ng menstruation period mo?  Ano pa ang ibang naging cycle mo?

Anyway, kung 25 days at June 4 ang last starting date. Ang possible na next date ay June 30.  Ang 14 days bago itong next estimated date ay June 16.

Pwedeng nag-release ka ng egg noong June 16.  Possible na yung sperm noong June 14 ay mabuhay hanggang June 16.  Pwede kang mabuntis (at baka girl ang maging baby mo).

Last May 11 po first day ko.


kaso po nag condom naman po kami nung last June 14 safe pa rin po ba yun. :|

***************************
Sis hane,

Check mo mabuti kung ilang cycle days mo for the past 3months para sigurado. Kailangan nating malaman yung pinaka shortest at longest cycle days mo.
Feb to March - ?
March to April - ?
May 11 to June 4 (23 days cycle)

Let me know, tulungan kitang mag-compute.

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on June 24, 2011, 10:38:00 am
  Ah okay .. Thanks mommy yslim at daddy jojo ..  ;D
May mga date ba kung kelan mo gusto na maging baby boy o baby girl yung baby mo?  ???
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: hane on June 24, 2011, 12:40:22 pm
Hi hane

Ano pa ang ibang date ng first day ng menstruation period mo?  Ano pa ang ibang naging cycle mo?

Anyway, kung 25 days at June 4 ang last starting date. Ang possible na next date ay June 30.  Ang 14 days bago itong next estimated date ay June 16.

Pwedeng nag-release ka ng egg noong June 16.  Possible na yung sperm noong June 14 ay mabuhay hanggang June 16.  Pwede kang mabuntis (at baka girl ang maging baby mo).

Last May 11 po first day ko.


kaso po nag condom naman po kami nung last June 14 safe pa rin po ba yun. :|

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Sis hane,

Check mo mabuti kung ilang cycle days mo for the past 3months para sigurado. Kailangan nating malaman yung pinaka shortest at longest cycle days mo.
Feb to March - ?
March to April - ?
May 11 to June 4 (23 days cycle)

Let me know, tulungan kitang mag-compute.

Feb 18 to MArch 21
March 21 ro April 16
May 11 to June 4

yan po. yhank you po mommy lala.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on June 24, 2011, 01:30:18 pm
Sis hane,

Feb 18 to March 21 (30 days)
March 21 to April 16 (25 days)
April 16 to May 11 (24 days)
May 11 to June 4 (23 days)

Kung titingnan mo based on your past 4months period track record, ang shortest cycle mo is 23 and longest is 30.

Kung ang gagamitin natin yung longest cycle mo which is 30days, sa July 5 and possibleng next period mo. June 18 to 22 ang fertile days, yung pinaka peak diyan at dapat wala talagang contact is June22 otherwise pregnancy may occur.

Now kung ang gagamitin naman natin is yung pinaka shortest cycle mo na 23days, sa June 28 naman ito. June 11 to 15 ang fertile days mo, at peak day is June 15.

Tandaan mo pwedeng umabot ng hanggang 30days bago ka magkaperiod or pwede rin naman maging maaga ng 23days.

I hope nakatulong ako.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: arvi on July 05, 2011, 07:01:28 pm
Hi Arvi

Menstruation Period Dates and Cycle

Feb.  1 to Mar.  1     <- 28 Days Cycle
Mar.  1 to Apr. 17     <- 46 Days (tama ba ito?)
Apr. 17 to May 12    <- 25 Days Cycle

Kung gagamitin natin dito ang Standard Days Method (SDM), ang May 22 ay 10 days after ng last menstruation period mo.  Dapat avoid na ang penetrative sex from May 19 to 30 (Days 8-19)

Possible na Fertile ka at pwedeng mabuntis noong May 22

Ito ay kung SDM lang ang gagamitin mo.  Mas madali i-compute sa mga mas comfortable sa paggamit ng calendar.

Pero mas accurate kung imo-monitor mo rin ang cervical mucus mo.  Sana mai-record mo ito kasabay ng tamang dates ng menstruation period mo at sexual intercourse.  Dapat involved si hubby.  Siya ang magsusulat.  Maraming opportunities for bonding pag nago-observe fertility ha.  Take advantage of them  ;D


Reference:

Standard Days Method
http://www.natural-family-planning.info/standard-days-method.htm


hi daddy jojo!..
yes, tama poh yung 46days..minamark ko rin kasi eh..aus lang ba un?
nagmens ulit ako last june 8 and ng do kami ni hubby ng june 25.di naman ako fertile nun db?..
panu ba yung mucus?..ahe
pwede nang umulit ulit yung 46days ko..kasi this month nsa 27days na naman ako..ei yung kasunod nun based sa mga mens schedule ko is 46 days?..
thanks in advance daddy jojo
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on July 20, 2011, 06:05:58 am
Daddy jojo, ask ko lang if gaano ka safe itong calendar method?
I mean diba sabi mo para sure na safe, obserbahan ko sa pag ihi ko ng mga 2 days kung merong mucus ..
Ganon po ginawa ko, then nag do kami ni hubby kahapon lang ..
Ang mga LMP ko ay, May 3,  May 31, June 25 .. madalas 25 days bago  dumating ang period ko,
one time lang ngyari na 28 days ako nagkaroon nitong May 3 to May 31 dahil nung Nag do kami ni hubby nung May 27 so parang na delay ako ng 3 days ..
Binilang ko sa calendar na dapat kahapon meron na ako, bago kami nag do, napansin ko, meron na akong brown spot
Then nung nag do kami kahapon, nailabas niya lahat sa loob,
Safe na ako nung date kahapon pero hindi ko alam kung safe paba itong ngyari ..
Ang calendar method kasi + widrawal diba?
At kanina nung pag ihi ko, may nakapa ako na mucus, ang dami ..
Posible bang mabuntis ako nito?  :'( 
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: purple_maine on July 21, 2011, 05:11:22 pm
share ko lang po.. we always rely on calendar method than using any contraceptive dahil pakiramdam namin mas safe though iregular yung menstruation pero ko.. Yun nga lang dapat monitored mo talaga yung cycles mo. And usually nasa guys yun pag control talaga e. :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: kissablesam on July 22, 2011, 01:09:25 pm
@Daddy Jojo,

Hi Im Sam, newbie... Been back reading all the thread and i am already learning :)

thing is, I can't apply it personally on mine as such before I got prego have missed 2 months period that was May and June and then c*m July nagkaroon ako say 4 days tapos August last year ako nag start mawalan ng period..

may buwan kase na regular ang flow ng cycle ko and may buwan na hindi.. magulo nga! minsan nag aabot pa twice a month! that's last last year.. 2009

Just gave birth last May 19 and last June 29 - July 2 nag ka period agad ako :)

i'm stuck on deciding which method shall we use, been given a contraceptive pill by my OB unfortunately, My hubs and I do not prefer using that nor injectables..

It's good that i decided to make investigation thru SP  ;D! nakita ko tuloy ang mga posts mo!

I know YOU can only answer my question..

It's been years for my hubs already since we last DO it.. the So-you-know thing! heheh.. It's been 7 weeks already after I gave birth and I think it's OK na to have physical contact (baka kase iwan niya nako hahah)

I want to know sana when it is safe for us to DO it? since ang period ko nga is June 29 - Jul 2 this month!

I want to know sana when it my safe day?

I'm praying for some enlightment.. first pregnancy ko palang kase kaya i almost do now know what to do..

medyo dyahe naman magtanong! kaya nga sayo nalang ako ask kase you won't see me blushing when i ask you :)

It's good that WE moms have someone like you here, who's well known with these things that we are going thru!!

God bless you...[/color]
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on July 26, 2011, 10:24:20 am
Hi kissablesam

Thank you for back reading all the thread.  I really appreciate it when someone finds my messages helpful.  I've read what you wrote a few minutes after you posted it last July 22.  However, I've been really very busy.

But, I don't want to disappoint someone whose first post is on this thread.

You may have noticed that I have already been responding in Filipino.  I didn't want anyone to feel uncomfortable with my use of English.  I've also been making restatements because I often assume that the one I'm writing to has not done any back reading.

When I write here, I am hoping to help married couples deal with what appears to be an apprehension to express their love to each other because of the concern that this could lead to an unplanned pregnancy.  I firmly believe that being intimate, making love, sharing that very private moment with the one you chose to be with in this lifetime...is a very precious gift...and that very act of love is a celebration of life, of our humanity...of being one...and of experiencing the infinite!

I will give a short answer to your question for the moment.  I will try to write again to try to directly address your concern.

Please observe your cervical mucus every morning.  Record, always write your observation.  Here, you can involve your husband.  He should be the one taking notes as you share what is going on with your body.  Take note, mark those days when your mucus changes from thick and sticky...to stretchy and watery.  From that day when your mucus is very stretchy and resembles raw egg white (Peak/Ovulation Day) count 14 days.  Your menstruation is supposed to occur 14 days after your Peak/Ovulation Day.

Avoid penetrative sex when you observe these consecutive days of increased liquification of mucus.  These are the days when you could get pregnant.  This type of cervical mucus can protect the sperm from the acid of the vagina, and once they survive, they can fertilize the egg...which is released on the Peak Day.

Another method of Natural Family Planning that you can use and combine, since your menstruation is irregular...is the Basal Body Temperature (BBT) Method.

Basically, you and your husband will simply take your temperature at the same time of day in the morning every day.  You need to plot this on a chart so you can see how your temperature will lower.  You can try out the web-based online free charting service of www.fertilityfriend.com.  However, the trial is only about three months.

Please be aware that the temperature unit in most chart in the site is in Fahrenheit.  Our Thermometers in the Philippines uses Celcius or Centigrade.  Remember to click the button/link "View All Charts in Celsius"

For a key to understanding the symbols used in their charts, view this page.
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/layouts/ttc/help/chart_key.html

Lastly, for another worry free way of knowing when you can get pregnant...so you can be careful.  Please ask your drugstore about, Ovulation Predictor Kits (OPK). 

You can combine your monitoring of your cervical mucus (Billings/Ovulation Method) with the Temperature Method I mentioned above (BBT).  This combination is also another Natural Family Planning method.  It's called SymptoThermal Method (STM).  Sympto is monitoring your signs/mucus and Thermal is observing your temperature.  The site www.fertilityfriend.com uses this method.  It also considers your use of an OPK.

I hope you can share your own fertility observations here and if you decide to use an OPK.  What you share here will help others reading this thread.  Thank you very much.

References:
"ovulation always will occur fourteen days before your period starts"
Video: Ovulation. Interview with Dr. Jay Goldberg, Obstetrician & Gynecologist
http://www.videojug.com/interview/ovulation

"Fact: Women are most likely to get pregnant 14 days before their period."
Ask The Expert: Sex and Pregnancy Myths
http://www.videojug.com/interview/sex-and-pregnancy-myths-2

The Billings Ovulation Method – the Natural Way to Achieve or Postpone Pregnancy
http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/getting-pregnant/planning/the-billings-ovulation-method-the-natural-way-to-achieve-or-postpone-pregnancy




Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: kissablesam on August 08, 2011, 11:13:18 am
@Daddy Jojo,

Thank you for your response, honestly. I am having second thoughts on using any method of Natural Family Planning it is because of the irregularity on my mentrual cycle. i cannot remember when did this started but as far as i can remember, before i get prego last year. there was 1 month in between of my monthly cycle, say. I had my period on May but not on June and have it on July until i became prego :)

Medyo magulo ang cycle ko eh, Hindi ko alam kung regular ba un o hindi hais...

If ever i tried the OPK, I will ofcourse share my experience on this..

I have observed that I had cervical mucus on the morning and really avoided having contact, (Can you just imagine my friends are bragging me because Me and Hubs are not doing the deed yet.. because sila, after a month lang may contact na sila.. I was so afraid of getting pregnant again) Until, I had my period this month.. It Started on August 1 and ended on August 5, Was it really true that the day after your monthly period is SAFE to have penetrative coitus?? because we have contact just a day after my period..


I don't want to use contraceptive/injectables because i am afraid of getting ill from the side effects. will you know what method is really safe for us to use?

Thank you Daddy Jojo, May god bless you always :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: kissablesam on August 08, 2011, 12:12:40 pm
FYI

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/spinnbarkeit - ABOUT CERVICAL MUCUS
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on August 23, 2011, 01:23:53 pm
@Daddy Jojo:  hi po...it's been months since the last time na nangulet ako sa inyo.hehe. Anyway, pwede po ba patulong ulit, medyo na-mental block lang po ako at na-confuse sa pagcocompute. pasensya na po.
Jan16-Feb 16 >>>30days cycle
Feb16-March15 >>> 26days
March15-April16 >>>31days
April16-May19 >>>32days
May19-July2 >>>43days
July2-Aug.1 >>>29days
Aug. 1 to when po??? alin kaya pong cycle days ang aking gagamitin to compute my fertile days. Ang naaalala ko lang po ay kailangang magbilang 14days backwards doon sa expected date na tayo ay magkakaroon ng period. Sa case ko po, hindi ko alam kung anong cycle days ang aking gagamitin.

Sana po matulungan niyo ako....Salamat :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on August 26, 2011, 08:28:13 pm
i would like to thanks daddy jojo for helping me ..
Sobrang effective nga itong calendar method na tinuturo niya ..  ;D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: hane on October 24, 2011, 01:12:01 pm

hello po sana po matulngn niyo po ulit  ako
last men. cycle

Aug 20- Sept 10
Sept10 -Oct 16

eh nag do kami nung oct 19,21 and 22

kailan po ako hindi safe? possible po ba mabuntis ako :)
thank you po
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: HoneyG on November 14, 2011, 02:14:56 am
>>>mga mommy, pwede mag tanong..... may possiblity po buh ma buntis last intercourse namin the day po nang first day ko.. may possibility po buh mabuntis ako????
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: jeuno on November 14, 2011, 06:11:12 am
^sis ang alam ko safe ka kapag nakipag "do" ka within your menstraul period. actually, based on my experience, favorite days ko before yung few days before and after my period, kasi safe sya kahit hindi mag withdrawal.:) sakin lang yun sis ha, kasi regular period ko. pero sa tanong mo, sagot ko OO, safe yun kung 1st day ng period mo. :D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommyitelity on November 20, 2011, 12:10:25 am
hi mga mommies.. bago lang po ako dito..mag tatanong lang po ako.. wala po kame gamet na contraceptives na kahit ano. evrytym na  nag do do kame ni hubby lage akong kakaba kaba.. then, nabasa ko po ito, pwede pala by calendar lang.. my question is, last mens ko po ay nov. 2. nag do po kame ni hubby nov 18.. 5x kmeng nag do pero widrawal.. then the other day is nag do kami pero isang beses lang.. tingin nyo mga mommies may chance kaya na ma preggy ako? thanks!
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: jeuno on November 20, 2011, 03:04:52 pm
^nag withdrawal ba kayo nung nag do kayo the other day?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommyitelity on November 20, 2011, 11:19:22 pm
sis jeuno, opo.. widrawal po.. nung nov 18 and 19.. ano po sa tingin mo?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: jeuno on November 22, 2011, 08:20:27 pm
possible na mabuntis ka kahit nag withdrawal based sa calendar method, yun e kung regular period mo. pero syempre sis malalaman mo lang pag nag miss yung period mo and pag nag pregnancy test ka. ;)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommyitelity on November 22, 2011, 11:30:20 pm
kasi ang cycle ng mens ko iba iba.. minsan 28 cycle 29, 30, hanggang 35 cycle.. so hindi ko alam kung pano yun.. sana naman sis wala po muna mabuo kasi 1 yr old pa lang baby ko.. pwede na kaya ako sis mag pt ngaun? thanks
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: janeleb on December 08, 2011, 06:22:55 pm
ask lang po.. para iwas dami ;)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ajcj22 on December 08, 2011, 06:48:12 pm
7 day before and after safe yun?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: janeleb on December 10, 2011, 06:50:11 pm
sbi ng iba 5 days before and after ? au kea talaga hehe
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: galathea on December 10, 2011, 10:42:59 pm

Hallo mga mommies!

I found this in the internet:


Welcome to the home page of Safeperiod calculator

Safe period calculator helps you to find out the safe days that you can make love without fear..In natural way you can avoid pregnancy by remembering some dates. By simply giving your last period date and longest and shortest period cycle, SAFE PERIOD CALCULATOR finds out the safe and unsafe dates of your menstrual life cycle
How to find out Longest and shortest period cycle??

You have to note your period for at least 6 months and note the number of days between starting date and the next period. Then identify longest and shortest period cycles
To calculate safe and unsafe dates

If a women's menstrual cycle varies from 26days to 31days cycle, The shortest cycle [26days] minus18days=8th day. The longest cycle [31days] minus 10days=21st day Thus, 8th to 21st day of each cycle counting from first day of menstrual period is considered as fertile period. That is UNSAFE PERIOD.Period other than this fertile period in a menstrual cycle is considered as SAFE PERIOD 

Source Link: http://aliveprojects.com/apps/safeperiodcalculator/


But yes, I have also heard about the 5-day rule...
Which means that you are safe 5days before your anticipated period and 5days within your period...
For example you have an average of 28-day cycle and your period last November for example was 7th November, then your SAFE DAYS are November 7-11 and November 30-December 04... The rest is considered fertile period or UNSAFE DAYS
Note that this is applicable for women who have REGULAR MONTHLY PERIOD.

Hope this helps...

Happy parenting and God Bless!




Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: wakuzave on December 13, 2011, 02:12:39 pm
mga sis pa help naman oh,kung tama b ang paggamit ko ng calendar method ngaun month ngkaroon ako dec 10 count ako ng 28 for my menstrual cycle jan 6.count ulit ako ng 14 days backward for my ovulation day.so dec 24 count ulit ako for my ovulation day before and after,25,26,27,28 after 23,22,21,20,yan b yung day n unsafe ako then yung natitira n day ang safe...pls help me naguguluhan kc ako first time ko palang gamitin tong calendar...pa aswer naman mga sis thanks God bless to all... 
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: rianne_mallows on December 15, 2011, 09:07:50 am
5years kaming calendar ni hubby(then bf) effective naman ;)

7 days is considered safe.. BUT to make sure lang.. 5 days lang ginagawa namin.. ;D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: janeleb on December 18, 2011, 05:42:11 pm
'' uhmm ee kung pang 6 day kea safe pdn?hehe
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on December 20, 2011, 08:27:07 am
Hindi na sana ako magpo-post sa forum na ito dahil nalaman ko na parang hindi pala mahalaga kung informative o helpful ang contribution mo.  Dahil lang hindi nakaabot sa required minimum number of replies made-delete na ang post mo.

Mas na-retain itong Calendar Method thread na ito.  Na-delete ang sinimulan ko na Standard Days Method thread.

Paulit-ulit ko nang sinabi na obsolete na ang Calendar Method.

Kahit man lang sana na-merge ang Standard Days Method thread ko sa thread na ito.

Sana magbasa naman ng mabuti ang moderators dito.  Hindi delete lang ng delete. 

(Naiiisip ko tuloy ang tinatawag na contraceptive mentality.  Hindi na pagtitiyagaang alamin at pag-aralan ang mga bagay...kung ano magiging epekto.  Iinuman na lang ng pill o magpapa-inject na lang.  O pag natatakot na baka nabuntis eh "pipigilin".  Ide-"delete" na lang.)

Isang possible sana na bagong title ng thread na ito ay Calendar-Based Methods. 

Anyway, ipopost ko na lang ulit ang tungkol sa Standard Days Method.  Under nitong category na ito ang Standard Days Method...at ang mga old at outdated na...like Rhythm/Calendar Method.

http://www.natural-family-planning.info/standard-days-method.htm (http://www.natural-family-planning.info/standard-days-method.htm)

Wakuzave, pwede mong gamitin ang SDM kung ang range ng cycle mo ay from 26 to 32.  So, kung madalas ay 28 days ang cycle mo, pwede sa iyo ito.

(http://www.natural-family-planning.info/graphics/calendar1.gif)

(http://allcalendar.tk/images/December_2011_Calendar_Template/December_2011_Calendar_Template_1.jpg)

Kung Dec. 10 ang recent na first day ng menstruation mo, sulatan mo ito ng "1" at bilugan mo ito sa calendar.  Then alamin mo kung ano ang date sa ilalim nito, Dec. 17.  Ito ang 8th day, isulat mo ang number "8" tapos, bilugan mo ulit ito.  Ituloy mo ang counting from the 8th to 19th day.  Isulat mo ang "19" sa Dec. 28. Bilugan mo rin.

Guhitan mo (single overstrike) mula sa 8th day mo hanggang 19th day.  Consider these as your fertile days, Dec. 17 to 28.  Avoid penetrative sex.  Pwede mag-bonding, mag-cuddle o kahit na mas intimate pa...basta huwag mag-all-the-way.

If you notice, 12 days ito ha.  Hindi naman ito absolute.  Estimate lang ito based sa research on those with 26 to 32 days cycle (Georgetown University, Washington).  Ang ibig sabihin, it's very possible na hindi ka pa naman fertile on some of these days. And estimated na safe days mo ay Dec. 10 to 16...Dec. 29 and until the next menstruation period.

May mga ibang Natural Family Planning methods na mas konti ang estimated fertile days at mas accurate pa...like Two-Day Method.

Pakibasa na lang ang ibang mga post ko dito.  Marami na akong nai-share dito...minsan umuulit na ako.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on December 23, 2011, 03:27:23 pm
@OFW - Online Filipino Worker

Yes, ang pinaka-fertile day ay yung araw na nagre-release ang babae ng egg.  Ovulation o peak day ang isa pang tawag dito.  According to Dr. Jay Goldberg, Ob-Gyn, 14 days daw bago ang susunod na mentruation period ang ovulation day.

Source: Video of interview with Dr. Jay Goldberg, Ob-Gyn:

Ovulation. http://www.videojug.com/interview/ovulation


Hindi pwede na mas fertile pa ang 14th day na ito kesa sa days before or after.  May mga authoritative sources din na nagsasabi na ang ovulation ay pwedeng mag-occur around 12 to 14 to 16 days bago ang next menstruation period. 

(Pero dahil affected ng iba't ibang factors like stress, nagbabago ang ovulation day.  Ito ang reason kaya nagmo-move din ang next menstruation period.  Na-consider na itong changes na ito sa pag-develop ng modern Natural Family Planning Methods tulad ng Standard Days Method.  May iba pa ngang mas accurate na kayang i-pinpoint ang ovulation day, tulad ng Porsuelo Symptothermal Method.)

Kaya sinasabing fertile din before the ovulation or peak day ay dahil nagsisimula nang maging mas visible ang cervical mucus (white mens).  In 3 to 5 days bago ang ovulation day, sinasabing malaki ang chance na mabuhay ng sperm...dahil mapo-protektahan ng cervical mucus.

Sa ovulation day, pinaka slippery ang cervical mucus...ito ang sign ng highest fertility.  After ma-release ang egg, mabubuhay ito ng 24 to 48 hours lang. Yes fertile pa rin, pero one day after the ovulation day lang.  Kasunod nun, papunta na sa least fertile days ng cycle.

Check out the chart here below and see.

(http://maybe-baby.com/gallery/images/1144828120Cycle.jpg)
Source: http://maybe-baby.com/gallery/images/
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on January 02, 2012, 04:43:57 pm
Mommies, share ko lang yung case nung friend ko po, hindi ko din po kase masagot, hindi din ako makapag advise.  Eto po yung situation niya: In 6 consecutive months yung shortest cyle niya daw is 26days, then yung longest is 43days. Yung Days 1 to 11 daw po ba ay consider na safe period? Sabi niya din wala naman po siyang na notice na slippery mucus down there when they make love with her bf nung Day 6 at Day 11?

What do you think po safe days po ba yun?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: momaye on January 03, 2012, 09:14:12 am
Mommies, share ko lang yung case nung friend ko po, hindi ko din po kase masagot, hindi din ako makapag advise.  Eto po yung situation niya: In 6 consecutive months yung shortest cyle niya daw is 26days, then yung longest is 43days. Yung Days 1 to 11 daw po ba ay consider na safe period? Sabi niya din wala naman po siyang na notice na slippery mucus down there when they make love with her bf nung Day 6 at Day 11?

What do you think po safe days po ba yun?

here's the computation:

for first fertile day: shortest cycle - 18 = 26-18= 8. Beginning with day one of the current cycle, count out 8 days on the calendar. Mark it with an "X". Include Day 1 when you count the day.

for last fertile day: longest cycle - 11 = 43-11= 32. Beginning with the first day of the current cycle, count out 32 days.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: momaye on January 03, 2012, 09:20:38 am
or para mas madali you can download the Victoria Woman's Calendar. Its like a software to beinstalled to your PC para hinde na mahirap magcompute. All you need is to store your first day of bleeding and it will predict your future menstruation and your fertile days too. Note that you need atleast 8 months para maging mas accurate un predictions. its a freeware but its a trial software lang kaya minsan nadedeactivate but you can redownload it and reinstall. here's the link: http://www.executivpro.com/victoria/products.htm (http://www.executivpro.com/victoria/products.htm)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommylala on January 03, 2012, 09:42:21 am
thanks po
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: msals2007 on February 13, 2012, 10:49:36 am
Recently lang ako naging conscious in taking note of my period for birth control. pwede ko na ba maestimate ang safe period with these data. first day of my period for Dec is Dec. 7, then January is January 6 and for February naman is Feb. 4. Does this mean starting na yesterday ang fertile period ko?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on February 14, 2012, 04:20:56 am
Hi msals2007

Kung gusto mo maging mas accurate, i-take note mo rin ang length ng cycle mo at ang observation mo ng discharge or mucus...aside from dates ng first mens mo.

Base sa binigay mo, ang cycle days mo ay 30 to 31.  Kung ganito ka rin next cycle, possibly fertile ka from Feb 15 to 21.  Estimate pa rin ito.  I-observe mo sa days na ito ang mucus/discharge/white mens mo pagkagising sa umaga...mas yun ang exact fertile days mo.

Ang next mens mo ay darating sa Mar. 4 or 5.

Heto, ginawa ko ng chart, based sa Standard Days Method matrix na developed ko:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T0SNHlidKdY/TzlyGrypyqI/AAAAAAAAAqU/6qqnfM5uvQ4/s800/2012-02-14_040855_msals2007_SDM_cropped.jpg)
Click for full size (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x7Fnpf2st-s/Tzlu5Q1FvcI/AAAAAAAAAp8/oBy6S5uS88A/s800/2012-02-14_040855_msals2007_SDM.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x7Fnpf2st-s/Tzlu5Q1FvcI/AAAAAAAAAp8/oBy6S5uS88A/s800/2012-02-14_040855_msals2007_SDM.jpg)

For full chart, please view:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AufQD_fER1xzdEpvM2FwYUpjRHkwcm5ta1h6VlFTbHc

Legend:
F - Fertile days (estimate)
P - Peak day, ovulation, most fertile (estimate)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: msals2007 on February 14, 2012, 08:50:11 am
Thanks so much Daddy Jojo. Kinabahan ako kasi yung ibang binabasa ko, yung 8th day is start na ng unsafe period. Pero kung sa estimate mo is feb 15 pa ang start, so thats 12 days after my first day of period pa. Though nung weekend naman wala akong nanotice na discharge, but still, di ko pa rin maiwasang kabahan kasi start ng 8th day ko last weekend. Eh mag 6 months pa lang ang bunso ko so wala pa talaga kong balak sundan. Now i'll be more conscious with my period and discharge para hindi na ko kabahan
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on February 14, 2012, 03:22:00 pm
Hi msals

Actually, yung sinasabi mo na nabasa mo na 8th day ang start ng unsafe...doon din ako nag-base.

Ito rin ang Standard Days Method na binabanggit ko sa thread na ito.  Ang SDM ay designed para sa 27 to 32 days cycle.  Para maging super safe, declared na unsafe ang day 8th to 19th.

Ang ginawa ko lang ay hinimay ko ang mga cycles ng SDM.  Check mo ulit ang table na ginawa ko, in-update ko na.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nENQar2TWAM/Tzn6NF_wfrI/AAAAAAAAAqo/FIo8s5y-4E8/s640/2012-02-14_140144%2520msals2007%2520SDM.jpg)
                        8th                   19th
Ang 8th day na start ng fertile day ay para mga 27 days ang cycle. 

Ang 19th day ay ang last fertile day ng may 32-days cycle.  Dahil nga paiba-iba ang cycle, ginawa itong SDM.

Click to view full size (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nENQar2TWAM/Tzn6NF_wfrI/AAAAAAAAAqo/FIo8s5y-4E8/s800/2012-02-14_140144%2520msals2007%2520SDM.jpg)

So, kung never naman naging 27 days ang cycle mo, hindi applicable sa iyo ang 8th day.  Ang pinaka-accurate pa rin ay ang pag monitor ng mucus pagkagising sa umaga.

For full chart, please view:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AufQD_fER1xzdEpvM2FwYUpjRHkwcm5ta1h6VlFTbHc (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AufQD_fER1xzdEpvM2FwYUpjRHkwcm5ta1h6VlFTbHc)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: msals2007 on February 14, 2012, 04:00:07 pm
Thanks daddy jojo for the reply. To be super safe, mag start na lang to abstain from 8th day though on the average 30 days naman ang period ko. better be safe than sorry :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: beb on February 16, 2012, 02:35:47 pm
hello po.
im new mommy lang po.
3 mothz palang baby qh.
ask qh lang pu kung kailan kami puwede maginteract ulii ng husband qh?
ntatakot pu kc aqh... :(
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: kissablesam on February 16, 2012, 04:40:14 pm
^Hi beb, welcome to SP! OT: when I finally decided to register as a member here in SPs forum. my first post was actually about your dilemma. I was also having problems about it  :) Theres this thread about your concern, heres the link  ;)

http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,1270.90.html


Anyhow, for quite some time now, 9 mos na i think. 6 days after my PMS thats when WE do the deed haha! kase diba 7 days after the period hindi na pwede kase may possibility na mag conceive ka.. pero, I learned that even may PMS ka you may be fertile kaya some conceive kahit na akala nila eh may PMS sila.. POV po!
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on February 16, 2012, 05:05:32 pm
Hi Beb

Full breastfeeding ka ba sa baby mo?  Kasi kung full breastfeeding ka, hindi ka pa mabubuntis.  Ang tawag dito ay Lactational Amenorrhea Method (Natural Family Planning).

Habang nagbi-breastfeed, nagsesend ang nerves ng breast ng signal sa brain para sabihin dito pansamantalang itigil muna ang proseso ng pag-aanak (reproduction).

Kung hindi ka full breastfeeding.  I-check mo tuwing pagkagising sa umaga kung may discharge o white mens ka.  Kung dry ka mula nang nakalipas na araw (for two days), safe para mag-"interact"

Kung meron o hindi mo masabi dahil nag-"interact" kayo ni hubby at baka sa kaniya galing yung nakita mo...palipasin mo muna ang isang araw tapos check mo uli kung dry ka.

Ang tawag dito ay Two-Day Method.

Kung nag-karoon ka na ng mens, isulat mo o i-record mo ang date na nagkaroon ka at kung gaano kahaba ang araw sa kasunod.  Dito pwede mo na ring gamitin ang Standard Days Method (SDM) na isang calendar-based method.

Marami na akong isulat at paliwanag dito sa forum na  ito na makakatulong para maintindihan ang katawan natin at ang buong proseso kung kailan nga ba nabubuntis...at kung kailan hindi.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on February 16, 2012, 06:05:00 pm
Hi kissablesam

What did you mean by PMS?  Pre-menstrual Syndrome?

Kung ang tinutukoy mo ay Menstruation Period...ang 7 days after...ay 8th to 19th day.  Ito nga yung sinasabi ko na "declared" na fertile according to the Standard Days Method (SDM).  Ito ay kung ang cycle mo ay 27-32 days

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nENQar2TWAM/Tzn6NF_wfrI/AAAAAAAAAqo/FIo8s5y-4E8/s640/2012-02-14_140144%2520msals2007%2520SDM.jpg)
                        8th                   19th
     *Ang 8th day na start ng fertile day ay para mga 27 days ang cycle. 

     *Ang 19th day ay ang last fertile day ng may 32-days cycle.  Dahil nga paiba-iba ang cycle, ginawa itong SDM.


Ito namang sinasabi na pwede ka daw mabuntis kung meron ka ay para lang sa may mas maikli pang cycle, like 22 days.

Heto, iginawa ko ng illustration:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xglRR-iCZa8/TzzNt18rdnI/AAAAAAAAAqw/UNbDU2c1q40/s800/2012-02-16_172939%252022-Day%2520Cycle%252C%2520Mens%2520and%2520Fertile%2520Days.jpg)

Sa 22-day cycle, naglalapit ang menstruation days Day 1 to 5, sa Fertile days. 
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: kissablesam on February 16, 2012, 06:28:49 pm
Hi Daddy Jojo

Thank you Indeed, I understand fully now the cycle.. dati kase naguguluhan ko hehe! really informative talaga kapag IKAW ang nagpo-post  :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: danixnix on March 25, 2012, 12:31:31 am
Hello po! Pasend or pa post naman po dito copy ng two days method. Thanks!
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on March 25, 2012, 06:19:18 am
Hi,
Heto ang links sa Two-Day Method (TDM)

First Post containing explanation (http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,20910.msg292922.html#msg292922)
http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,20910.msg292922.html#msg292922

Full Discussion Thread (http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,20910.0.html)
http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,20910.0.html

Please post there, to keep the thread active.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: aiel03 on May 01, 2012, 03:21:39 am
Hi po.. Today is my second day of menstruation, ask ko lang po sana when ang fertile days ko.. nahirapan po kasi ako magcompute eh, irregular din po kasi ang menstruation ko.. Sa pag.count po ba ng days ng menstruation kasama yung spotting after ng 3 days o hindi na.. hope someone will help. TIA :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mami shae on May 10, 2012, 08:49:53 am
Hi Daddy Jojo,

I have been reading ur posts about NFP religiously...
I just have few questions:

I stopped taking contraceptive pills last month, hoping to use calendar method nalang, I wonder if regular naba ang cyle ko after ko mag quit from pills? or mag aadjust pa ko?

anybody can answer too :)

TIA
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mami shae on May 30, 2012, 12:32:26 pm
Sana lahat ng hubby ay may knowledge ng ganyan parang su daddy Jojo! para di nakaka stress sa part nateng mga babae... oh pag sila may alam alam nila pwede sila mangulit at hindi.. anyhoo My first day of  period was May 26,, whats next? waaaah! kakaloka ito!
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: kissablesam on May 30, 2012, 01:04:21 pm
Joining,

ako, hindi ko alam kung kanino ko iko-consult ang concerns ko about this. kase ba naman, hindi ubra sakin ang NFP, hindi rin pwede yang calendar method although andito ako sa thread na to. for 1 year now, I am thankful naman na ito ang ginagamit naming method ni hubby at okay naman sya samin. wish ko lang wag sumablay. kakapraning kase, ayoko naman mag pill or gumamit, medyo malabo ang date ng monthly period ko. hindi sya swak sa one month. ang sakit sa ulo :(
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: BlueAby on May 30, 2012, 05:47:17 pm
Hi daddy jojo,

pahelp naman po. Ito po ang mga na-note ko na period ko:
1st Feb 6
2nd March 1
3rd March 26
4th April 22

based on this po kelan po yung safe period and kelan po yung hindi?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Arkreyes on May 31, 2012, 06:00:40 am
help  naman Kinakabahan kasi ko.. minsan widrawal minsan condom kami.. ano ba yung safe?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ysLim on June 01, 2012, 06:01:27 am
^ ang tanong mo bah eh tungkol sa safe days mo? or kung alin sa dalawang method mo ang mas safe?  ???

safe days mo ay depende sa yong cycle. i suggest you readback sa thread na to. regarding sa methods na gamit mo, better yung condom. hindi talaga reliable ang withdrawal.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Mommy France on June 22, 2012, 11:58:36 am
arkreyes, condom is safer. But of course, depende din yan sa paggamit. If susuotin lang yung condom kapag malapit na sa "O", the pre-c*m could still make you pregnant.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: KClaire on June 22, 2012, 08:23:45 pm
tsk..! I'm really having a hard time understanding calendar method.. di ko talaga ma'gets kung kelan safe, before ba or after..? and kung san magsisimula ng bilang,kung sa first day ba ng menstruation o pagtapos na.. haiii.. I think i'm so slow with this..  :-[  :-[  :-[
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: bhabyko002 on June 26, 2012, 04:38:27 pm
^sa mobile phone ng husband ko may option sa calendars about menstruation...just enter the date (ata) ng last mens tapos magkakahighlights na kung anong days meron (red) safe (white) unsafe (yellow)...

pero di namin sinusunod...

AYOKO! takot pa ako eh...  :D

Cherry Mobile X90 has calendar method ang galing hehe.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: danel_em on July 02, 2012, 11:19:33 pm
sis KClaire, i was a nursing student i learned na 5 days or a week before the fertile days is unsafe dahil may mga sperm cells that are super HEALTHY as in tumatagal sila ng 1 week sa uterus ng babae (kung baga naghihintay talaga sila ng egg cell). i saw this ovulation calculator at babycenter.com and it is really reliable. :) hope this will help mommies here

http://www.babycenter.com/ovulation-calculator?sub=true&month=4&day=12&year=2012&cycleLength=30 (http://www.babycenter.com/ovulation-calculator?sub=true&month=4&day=12&year=2012&cycleLength=30)

calendar method only works for ladies who have definite menstrual cycle. (e.g 30 days or 28 days)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: msals2007 on July 05, 2012, 08:06:07 am
sometimes my cycle can be as short as 27 days and as long as 35 days. paano yun anong gagamitin kong reference.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: danel_em on July 05, 2012, 05:05:20 pm
msals2007 sis, i think you should refer to the latest cycle you had :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: msals2007 on August 15, 2012, 01:21:22 pm
thanks meenolamojacko. you think mas safe na lang if right after the period, like on the 7th to 8 th day after the first day of the monthly period, sure safe pa ba yun? me also, slow din ako in understanding this especially if di nga kasi palaging same days ang isang cycle
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: aliana_plinxexa on August 27, 2012, 01:36:04 am
hi mga sis ! ask ko lang po kung safe pa yung ika 5th day after mens. kasu nagkaron ako 17 tapos natapos yung mens ko ng 21 .. nkapag do ako kay mister ng 26 , safe paba yun ? pls help po para mapanatag ako .  :(
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommyYOW on August 27, 2012, 01:02:53 pm
Hi aliana_plinxexa! regular ba ang monthly cycle mo? madali lang kasi kung regular ang cycle mo. Based sa calendar method if 28-days ang cycle mo meaning kung first day mo is August 17 next cycle mo is Sept 13. From there count 14 days backwards yun ang ovualtion period mo which is August 31. So, hindi ka safe mula August 31-Sept 7 kasi yan ang period mo from ovulation to fertility. Sana it helps and naintindihan mo yung explanation ko. You can search naman sa google eh or read books na makakatulong sayo para maintindihan yung cycle mo. Yan ang ginagawa kasi namin ni Hubby ko kaya maganda din age gap 1st and 2nd baby namin.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: aliana_plinxexa on August 27, 2012, 02:11:38 pm
so it means sis safe ako khpon ? tma ba ?  ???
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mommyYOW on August 28, 2012, 06:26:27 pm
most likely, yes. :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: aliana_plinxexa on August 29, 2012, 12:23:50 am
thanks sis. ngaun panatag na loob ko :))
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: abz22 on August 29, 2012, 08:54:58 am
What if irregular menstruation like me,, pwede kaya tong calendar method?  :-\
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: KClaire on August 29, 2012, 10:29:05 am
hmmnnn...the last two months,  June and July nagkaroon ako on the 14th day of the month,then this month on the 26th day ako nagkaron,  :o antagal diba? kaya nga sobrang nagworried na ko nung lumampas na ng July 14 di parin ako nagkkaroon.. bakit kaya ganun.. minsan sakto naman sa bilang pagdating ng mens.  ginagamit ko din tong fertility calculator dito sa SP..
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: KClaire on September 16, 2012, 05:27:40 pm
hmmnnn.. so stress pala ang dahilan.. hmp lagi naman kasi ako nas'stress eh.. taz puyat din madalas.. can't have a descent sleep.. kaya pala.. thanks mga sis..
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mo-mhie on September 20, 2012, 03:18:35 pm
Mga sis I just want to share with everybody about the calendar method thing, kasi ako din irregular yung mentruation ko, but I see to it that I record it monthly to "Period Calendar Apps" ng samsung and it's effective naman you can check there when is your fertily days best to make baby and also you can avoid those days if you dont want to concieve :) I think it's very effective kahit na irredular period tayo, even sa mga cellphones na my mga apps meron narin siguro nyan :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: sweetpumpkin on September 21, 2012, 11:47:31 pm
I'm switching into calendar method. Ayoko na mag trust pills. Regular naman menstruation ko.last sep 9-13 huling mens ko. Sept 21, we di "it". Safe kaya yun? I checked on my mucus, hindi naman ganun ka thick or egg white like.. Siguro starting pa lang. help naman po... ;)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Mommy France on September 28, 2012, 08:50:20 pm
I'm switching into calendar method. Ayoko na mag trust pills. Regular naman menstruation ko.last sep 9-13 huling mens ko. Sept 21, we di "it". Safe kaya yun?

would you remember sis kung mataas yung body temp mo that time?

I think 7 days after your last day is still ok. parang dulo na yan ng safe period.
My husband and I stick with 5 days after. Kasi sperm can stay sa loob mo after ilang days. Naninigurado lang.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: kissablesam on September 29, 2012, 09:51:23 am
di naman talaga ideal na method ang calendar for those na ireg ang period like me, so ang ginagawa namin. after the last day of my period dun pwede na gang 3 days lang, tapos body temp din. ginagawa din naman yung 2 days method para talagang sure kaso di pa din nga ako nagkakaroon.. Wag naman sana, i'm not ready for another baby yet :(

My LMP
nun July -- 4-8
nun August -- 15-19
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: karlandkadi on September 29, 2012, 05:46:02 pm
hi mommies:

sorry po ah, pero help naman po! twice po ako nagkaperiod ngayong buwan.. yung una nung sept 7 then nito lang sept 25 po! nababahala na ako, baka po meron na po sa inyo ang kapareha ng nangyayari sakin ngayon..  ;( thanks po!
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Mommy France on September 29, 2012, 08:25:04 pm
Mahaba ba yung duration ng period mo sis?

That happened to me a long time ago. 17 days lang ang pagitan ng menstruation ko.
A friend also experienced this recently - single pa yun ha.


Assumining na matagal yung duration...Causes could be stress and hormonal imbalance.
Kung mangyari to over the next few months, yung tipong 2x in a month, better go to your OB.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: karlandkadi on September 29, 2012, 08:43:37 pm
Mommy France:

10 days lang sis ang pagitan, and yes sis nabasa ko rin na pwedeng stress to o hormonal imbalance..
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on October 29, 2012, 05:35:00 pm
Basahin sa Smart Parenting. Click any of these topics to read full article.
Withdrawal, Outercourse, Fertility Awareness, At Iba Pang Natural Birth Control Methods (https://www.smartparenting.com.ph/health/your-health/tips-para-hindi-mabuntis-a00370-20211027?ref=parentchat)
Ovulation Calendar
(https://images.summitmedia-digital.com/smartpar/images/2020/03/09/ovulation-calculator-mobile.jpg) (https://www.smartparenting.com.ph/pregnancy/ovulation-calendar?ref=parentchat)

Sa pag-count ng days ng Menstruation Period, bibilangin mula sa first date ng previous period hangang sa first date ng next.

Apr. 30, 2012  -------------------------------------------------->  Date, 1st Day, next mens
(http://billings-ovulation-method.org.au/act/images/cyclngth.gif)
Source: Length of the Menstrual Cycle. Copyright © Ovulation Method Research and Reference Centre of Australia (http://billings-ovulation-method.org.au/act/cycles.shtml)

Hindi na kasama sa pag-count kung ilang days na may mens ka o kung may spotting...pero sa Natural Family Planning na gumagamit ng chart, sinusulat ito para may record.

kailangan, may iba ka pang dates ng first day ng period mo para malaman kung ano ang Cycle Length mo.

(http://www.ansci.wisc.edu/jjp1/ansci_repro/lec/lec9/men_cycle_var.jpg)
Source: http://www.ansci.wisc.edu/jjp1/ansci_repro/lec/lec9/lec9fig.html

Ang fertile days mo ay ang Ovulation Day mo, 3-4 days before this and 1 Day after.  Malalaman mo ito kung alam mo ang Cycle Length mo.

Ang Ovulation ay around 14 days or 2 weeks before the next menstruation day.

Kung ang date ng last mens mo ay Apr. 30, 2012, nag-Ovulate ka (o nag-release ng egg) noong Apr. 16.  Ito ang date na tinatawag ding Peak Day ng Fertility mo.  Kino-consider din na Fertile Days ang Apr. 13 to 15 at ang Apr. 17.

From April 13 to 17 kasi, nagkaroon ka ng secretions ng Cervical Mucus (o white mens).   Ang Cervical Mucus ay nagli-liquify pag fertile...at ito ang nagpo-protect sa sperms ng husband para makapasok ang mga ito sa Cervix at makaabot sa Uterus o kahit hanggang sa fallopian tube...para hanapin ang egg at ma-fertilize.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dLw_fyT-qpg/UI5X6SJAkxI/AAAAAAAAAuw/vvRykewG5GQ/s800/Apr.%252030%252C%25202012%2520Fertile%2520Days.JPG)

From the first days of April to Apr. 12 at from Apr. 18 to the first few days of May...dry at walang secretions ng Cervical Mucus.  Ito ang safe days mo noon.  Kung nagkaroon ng sperm sa loob, mamamatay agad dahil sa acid.  Kahit may makaligtas, hind makakapasok sa cervix, dahil masyadong sticky ang cervical mucus...para itong plug na naka-seal sa opening.

Hi po.. Today is my second day of menstruation, ask ko lang po sana when ang fertile days ko.. nahirapan po kasi ako magcompute eh, irregular din po kasi ang menstruation ko.. Sa pag.count po ba ng days ng menstruation kasama yung spotting after ng 3 days o hindi na.. hope someone will help. TIA :)


Oct. 29, 2012

Hi everyone,

Ngayon lang ulit ako nakapagpost sa topic na ito. Medyo busy. It's been about 6 months.  Nagbabasa ako ng mga post dito, pero hindi lang nagre-reply.  I've been hoping na sana mag-backread na lang.  Medyo marami na akong naisulat dito, madalas inuulit ko na.  May disappointment din ako sa rules ng forum.  May mga post na nag-effort talaga ako, tulad ng thread ng Standard Days Method.  Minsan, talagang inaayos ko ang format, making full use of SMF/BB Codes...kaya mas disheartening kung nade-delete lang.  Marami rin akong Private Messages.  Mas sinasagot ko ang PMs.  At least, ang PMs, hindi nade-delete.

Salamat po sa questions, at sa interest ninyo sa Natural Family Planning.  I'll try to answer your questions now.  I'm doing this because I care ha...for the lives of unborn children and the health of women.

Sincerely,

Daddy Jojo


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Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on October 29, 2012, 08:20:39 pm
@ mami shae
Kung isa lang ang nai-record na date ng menstruation period, ang past fertile days lang ang mae-estimate natin:

Example Menstruation Period: May 26,2012

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Fbpc_PZNxIg/UI5w55YjM7I/AAAAAAAAAvY/Lf8aIih1eds/s800/May%252026%252C%25202012%2520Fertile%2520Days.JPG)

Ovulation Day: May 12
Fertile Days: May 9 to13.
Safe Days: From Date of previous menstruation to May 8, May 14 to 25

Salamat sa decision to stop taking contraceptives. Artificial birth control kills babies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Z96eKLwnJ2s) and cause cancer.  The World Health Organization - International Agency on the Research of Cancer list as Group 1 - Carcinogenic to Humans ...Hormonal Contraceptives.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xZQXlOYbr6s/UI5jrHw3QoI/AAAAAAAAAvA/Iq2GK3LiP-g/s800/WHO_IARC_Classification.JPG) (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xZQXlOYbr6s/UI5jrHw3QoI/AAAAAAAAAvA/Iq2GK3LiP-g/s800/WHO_IARC_Classification.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_s_jmc-_Q_8/UI5jrCQajJI/AAAAAAAAAvE/KUaz3yq7DWU/s800/Estrogen-Progestogen%2520Group%25201%2520Carcinogen.JPG) (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_s_jmc-_Q_8/UI5jrCQajJI/AAAAAAAAAvE/KUaz3yq7DWU/s800/Estrogen-Progestogen%2520Group%25201%2520Carcinogen.JPG)

Hi Daddy Jojo,

I have been reading ur posts about NFP religiously...
I just have few questions:

I stopped taking contraceptive pills last month, hoping to use calendar method nalang, I wonder if regular naba ang cyle ko after ko mag quit from pills? or mag aadjust pa ko?

anybody can answer too :)

TIA

Sana lahat ng hubby ay may knowledge ng ganyan parang su daddy Jojo! para di nakaka stress sa part nateng mga babae... oh pag sila may alam alam nila pwede sila mangulit at hindi.. anyhoo My first day of  period was May 26,, whats next? waaaah! kakaloka ito!
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: darling on October 30, 2012, 01:08:42 pm
Hi dady jojo!! kumusta po.. tanong din po ako..this month of october hindi pa po ako nag ka period.. wooried din po ako kasi parang hindi pa time para sundan si bbay boy since my son is now 2 yrs ol.. last sep 15 or 14 or 13 nag karun po ako.. then after the 8 days may ginawa kami ni hubby pero widraw naman po niya. and this middle of oct, nag widraw naman. sadyang irregular po ako mag mens,, kaya lang this oct talaga wala pa din,, sabi ko baka stress lang ako kasi last 2 weeks lage ako puyat at stress sa anak ko dahil nag play madaling araw,,

sana po masagot po ninyo ako

thanks

rose
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: KClaire on October 30, 2012, 10:07:47 pm
this thread really helps me a lot. ever since I always have a hard time understanding this method as well as my cycle.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on October 31, 2012, 10:14:22 pm
Kung isa lang ang recorded na date ng menstruation, ang pwede munang gamitin ay ang Standard Days Method (SDM).  This was developed by Georgetown University.  Para ito sa may cycle na 26 to 32 days.  Heto ang sariling layout ko ng SDM. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cL7vKUB-tP8/UJDzBdBVmdI/AAAAAAAAAyw/GTHPCzIclms/s800/2012-10-31_174252.jpg)(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zO_vxoym4PQ/UJDzBkQyBdI/AAAAAAAAAy8/HTtmApsDVTw/s800/2012-10-31_174342.jpg)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eeIpYNCu0mU/UJEN2SE_ZFI/AAAAAAAAAzY/nUGnz7_A6qs/s800/2012-10-31_193843.jpg)

Start with the date of the first menstruation day...this will be Cycle Day 1(red M). Count forward and mark Day 8 to Day 19 as your possible fertile days. 

Dito sa table na ginawa ko, ilalagay na lang ang Month at Dates.  Heto ang example kung gagamitin ang nag-iisang date ng start ng menstruation ni mami shae: May 26

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lHIXJ_yYvj8/UJEs28ec6EI/AAAAAAAAAzo/aueWtYHG6Wg/s800/2012-10-31_215038.jpg)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-58hWWqZAvgQ/UJEs26QvTDI/AAAAAAAAAzs/auMPN2KSch0/s800/2012-10-31_215058.jpg)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-VqQDNl3BPUI/UJD05MYL_CI/AAAAAAAAAzI/MRt9iV_Vi4c/s800/2012-10-31_175213.jpg)

So, kung May 26 ang Menstruation Period, ang possible na fertile days, kung kailan mao-observe ang mucus, ay mula June 2 to June 13.

Para maging mas accurate, mas okay kung i-combine ito with Two-Day Method (TDM)

Ang gagawin lang ay mag-check every morning, pagkagising at pagpunta sa CR kung merong mucus secretion.  I-confirm kung magkakaroon nito from Day 8 to 19.  Sa Two-Day Method, basta may mucus secretion, declared as fertile.  Kung dry for two days na magkasunod, safe.

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on November 01, 2012, 12:20:51 am
Kung may record ka ng two or more dates ng mentruation period, tulad nitong kay BlueAby...mas magiging accurate at pwedeng ma-predict ang Fertile Days, Ovulation/Peak Day at Next Menstruation Period.

Hi daddy jojo, pahelp naman po. Ito po ang mga na-note ko na period ko: 1st Feb 6; 2nd March 1; 3rd March 26; 4th April 22.  based on this po kelan po yung safe period and kelan po yung hindi?

Heto ang mga chart ng mga dates na binigay ni BlueAby

Noong Feb. 6 to Mar.1, ang Cycle ay 25 Days.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-eKy4SdMPWFs/UJE20DKnpyI/AAAAAAAAA0A/ZnK00wD6RXY/s800/2012-10-31_223235.jpg)(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WGQ1ZcNGJVg/UJE20T6Ou1I/AAAAAAAAA0E/X0x4_t5VjyA/s800/2012-10-31_223257.jpg)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-guzKqVH7iZk/UJE20VAUx6I/AAAAAAAAA0I/FOVVP67Chx4/s800/2012-10-31_223326.jpg)

Mar. 1 to 26, naging 26 Days Cycle
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8i52LqO6hqs/UJE8Wl4ljiI/AAAAAAAAA0k/yVgV3Ol7NYs/s800/2012-10-31_225551.jpg)(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4_UeaMwYaJM/UJE8WifZLzI/AAAAAAAAA0o/M_D-xZVEvi8/s800/2012-10-31_225629.jpg)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-R3MwfXoWPV0/UJE8WvFi85I/AAAAAAAAA0g/k7_I0rf4Eus/s800/2012-10-31_225659.jpg)

At noong Mar. 26 to Apr. 22, nag-28Days Cycle naman
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-aHTn1RzajAk/UJFCT75EL4I/AAAAAAAAA1A/1APBWK_DLsA/s800/2012-10-31_232151.jpg)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8y07v_nKwx4/UJFCUUItajI/AAAAAAAAA1I/5Ovo1U42VzI/s800/2012-10-31_232216.jpg)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-EDzsW8Nm6I4/UJFCUYFY_II/AAAAAAAAA1M/sd58uGGu6_w/s800/2012-10-31_232233.jpg)

Dahil meron na at least 3 months na note-taking ng menstruation dates, magkakaroon ng mas accurate na estimated dates ng Fertile Days, Ovulation/Peak Day at ng next Menstruation Period.

Tulad ng Standard Days Method (SDM) na pinagsama-sama ang 26 to 32 Cycles...ang combined chart ni BlueAby ay para sa kaniyang 25 to 28 Days Cycle. 

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zVClXvDLl1o/UJFEVclXu0I/AAAAAAAAA1Y/7psb61WDefU/s800/2012-10-31_233022.jpg)(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7AQ2Yqmaphc/UJFEVtVtGoI/AAAAAAAAA1c/sfJpvPMYxHY/s800/2012-10-31_233045.jpg)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-sgImWtO46B0/UJFEV9WRWPI/AAAAAAAAA1k/AhXoeBI-PhE/s800/2012-10-31_233102.jpg)

Para sa mga next na pag estimate ng Fertile Days, Ovulation/Peak Day at Menstruation, gawin lang blank ang chart.  Ang kailangan na lang ay isulat ang next Month(s) at Dates.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-IAaaI191DRU/UJFK3mfw8xI/AAAAAAAAA14/jyjCWfdONQE/s800/2012-10-31_235631.jpg)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BB5zWZvGmak/UJFK4INq5XI/AAAAAAAAA2A/ehyzBjSzHf8/s800/2012-10-31_235719.jpg)(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nfTgR0QbKRI/UJFK4GXLK-I/AAAAAAAAA18/6lcfJgp3fSk/s800/2012-10-31_235829.jpg)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on November 01, 2012, 12:52:10 am
Hi darling

Sana sure ka kung alin ba talaga ang date ng last mens mo...kung Sep. 15 or 14 or 13. 

Kung after 8 days, may ginawa kayo ni hubby, medyo possible na mabuhay ang sperm at maka-fertilize ng egg.

Ang Day 8 kasi ay start ng Fertile period sa Standard Days Method.


Walang sperm ang pre-ejaculate fluid  Dahil sa bagong development na ito, posible na hindi mabubuntis kung nag-withdrawal.

"A study in Boston, Massachusetts, and another study in New York City examined samples of pre ejaculate fluid from HIV seropositive and HIV seronegative men to determine whether HIV was or was not present in pre ejaculate fluid. The researchers found macrophages and CD4 lymphocytes in most samples, indicating that HIV was present. The more significant finding, however, was that most pre ejaculate samples did not contain any sperm and those that did had only small clumps of a very small amount of sperm which seemed to be immobile. A larger study is needed to verify these results. If these results are confirmed, they may dispel the myth that pre ejaculate fluid contains sperm. "

Researchers find no sperm in pre-ejaculate fluid.(1993)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12286905


BIRTH CONTROL METHOD FAILURE RATES
BIRTH CONTROL METHOD      PERFECT USE (%)TYPICAL USE (%)
No Contraception8585
Consistent Abstinence00
Withdrawal419

BIRTH CONTROL METHOD      PERFECT USE (%)TYPICAL USE (%)
Fertility Awareness2-325
TwoDay Method414

Sources:
Contraceptive Methods Failure Rates
http://www.healthcenter.vt.edu/Resources/shc-online-docs/information-sheets/contra-fail-rate.pdf


OT: Tungkol sa paggamit ng pills, injectables at iba pang artificial birth control

Karamihan po ng artificial birth control ngayon ay hindi na simpleng contraceptive kundi ABORTIFACIENT. 

Yung content na nakakapigil para mag-meet ang sperm at egg (Synthetic Estrogen) ay lowered na ang dosage at minsan pa nga, inaalis na ("Morning-After Pills").  Hindi kasi mabenta at maraming nadi-disappoint sa tindi at dami ng side effects ng chemical na ito.  Dahil sa lowered dosage or absense nito, nagkakaroon ng fertilization/conception...nakakabuo po ng baby! 

Ang main chemical content na ginagamit ngayon ay Synthetic Progesterone.  Nakatago ang mga chemicals na ito sa iba'-ibang pangalan ha.  Pero malaman natin ito.  Pakibasa po ang product insert ng inyong brand, mababasa po ninyo, thins the lining of the uterus.  Ibig sabihin nito, pagbaba ng baby natin sa matris, maghahanap siya ng makakapitan...dahil thinnned o pinatuyo ito...nalalaglag siya at namamatay!

Sana po makatulong tayo para matigil na ang Chemical Abortion dahil sa paggamit ng artificial birth control.  Please uphold the life of the unborn.

"Depotrust stops ovulation, thins the lining of the uterus and thickens the cervical mucus. In combination, these actions prevent pregnancy." Source: Depotrust Full Product Information from MIMS Philippines (http://www.mims.com.ph/Philippines/drug/info/Depotrust/Depotrust%20depot%20inj?type=full#Contraindications)
For my full comment on this, please go to: Re: Depotrust by Daddy Jojo (http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,5838.msg394429.html#msg394429)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on November 01, 2012, 04:19:44 pm
@KClaire

I checked the Smart Parenting Fertility Calculator
http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/community/tools/fertility-calculator/

Wala palang masyadong information kung paano kino-compute at kung ano ang basis ng computation.  Hindi ko ma-verify ang reliability at accuracy niya.

Here are Fertility Calculators that have explanations on them:

University of Rochester Medical Center. Ovulation Date Calculator
http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/document.aspx?ContentTypeID=41&ContentID=OvulationCalc

University of Maryland Medical Center. Ovulation Calculator:
http://www.umm.edu/pregnancy/000107.htm

Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center. Interactive Tool: When Are You Most Fertile?
http://www.wakehealth.edu/Health-Encyclopedia/Interactive-Tools/Interactive-Tool-When-Are-You-Most-Fertile.htm?LangType=1033
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: KClaire on November 01, 2012, 04:44:16 pm
:) dito po talaga ko sa SP unang nagtry gumamit ng fertility calculator,ok naman so far. pero ngayon di ko pa ulet nache'check,I just had my first day of mens yesterday. di ko alam bilangin kaya sa ferlility cal ako tumitingin. :) after I gave birth po kasi i never really tried pills. ewan ko natatakot ako uminom hehe.. saka natatakot din ako kasi marami na ko naririnig na pag nakalimutan mo daw uminom buntis ka agad. parang yung sister ko,kaka'1 year lang ng baby niya,nabuntis agad sya,kasi nag'skip daw sya ng inom ng pills. eh naisip ko,parang nasayang yung effort ng pag'inom kung magbubuntis karin lang pala ng di mo din inaasahan.parang pinurga mo lang katawan mo sa pills. mula nung nanganak ako wala akong iniinom o iniinject, "ingat'ingat" lang talaga hehe :D   
saka nagpe' pray ako palage na Please wag po muna ngayon Lord. siguro naman di magagalit si Lord saken kung ayoko muna talaga magbuntis. :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: KClaire on November 01, 2012, 05:05:11 pm
thanks daddy Jojo. may explanation nga,nakita na yung sa University of Rochester Medical Center. Ovulation Date Calculator. hmmnnn.. pano ko ba malalaman what exactly is my cycle? ???
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Firstymom&SAHM on November 01, 2012, 06:48:12 pm
whu!... haba ng na back read  ko! with calendar ballpen & cp as calculator pa sa tabi ;)
pero yung ibang nagpapaconsult kay daddy jojo nilaktawan ko na hehe... haba eh
nagmamadali na ko hahaha..
feeling ko naman naintindihan ko naman sya. kudos to daddy jojo!  :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: darling on November 05, 2012, 11:35:34 am
dady jo nag karun na po ako oct 31 grabe po ang tagal. last sep 15 po talaga ako nag karun pala.. tama po ba  cycle ko?

thank you po
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: wahmproject on November 05, 2012, 01:08:37 pm
This is a very informative thread.  Thanks to daddy jojo for patiently giving detailed explanation and answers.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on November 06, 2012, 10:01:14 am
@wahmproject
Thank you very much for the appreciation.  Sometimes I would think that giving detailed explanations might not be effective for some members here.  I've been repeating, rewriting and updating the information I share...for about 5 years now.

@KClaire
Nako-concern ako sa pagre-rely mo sa SP Fertility Calculator, baka mabuntis ka, kung halimbawa, may "activity" kayo ng husband mo 1-2 days before a computed fertile day.  Sinubukan ko kasi mag-compute.  Masyadong short ang estimated fertility dates na pinapakita.  At yun ay based lang sa isang Cycle.

Para malaman mo cycle mo, markahan mo kaya sa calendar or isulat sa isang notebook kung kailan ang dates ng menstruation mo.

@darling
Bilangin mo mula Sep. 15 to Oct 31 kung ilang days...that's 47 days.  Well, continue mo lang ang pag-take note ng dates ng menstruation mo.  May mga factors na nakaka-affect sa Ovulation.  Pag na re-schedule ang Ovulation...yung 14 days, uncluding yung Menstruation on the last day...ay namo-move.

Sana, mas ma-observe pa natin ang secretion/mucus/white mens.  Second priority pero halos kasing importante ang dates ng menstruation.  Mas simple and effective kasi na method ang mag-observe ng secretions (Two-Day Method, TDM), kesa mag bilang at mag-estimate ng cycle days (Standard Days Method, SDM).  Kung carry pa nga natin, mas okay na i-combine ang dalawa. 

Sana ma-observe mo rin ang presence ng secretion/mucus/white mens mo.  I-take note mo rin kung kailan mo napansin ito.  kung matutulog sa gabi, mas okay kung di gagamit ng pads/panty shields.  Para pag-gising sa umaga at pagpunta sa CR madali ma-notice.  Kung may time ako ire-research ko pa ang mga cause ng delay or absense ng menstruation.

@yssa
Salamat sa pag-back read ha.  Nag-iisip na ako na magbura na ng old posts dahil akala ko wala nang nagba-back read.  Salamat naman at isa ka sa mga kahit feeling eh naiintindihan na  ;D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: KClaire on November 08, 2012, 12:06:25 pm
@Daddy Jojo : OMG naman.. wag naman sana ako mabuntis muna, too early pa, kaya nga hangga't kaya mag'ingat, ginagawa namin. anyway, September 28 LMP ko, and next October 31 LMP ko last month. so my cycle is more than 28 days? hmmnn... sorry ang slow ko dito.. and we "did" it this morning,Nov.8.. you think it's safe?  :-\
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on November 08, 2012, 05:04:03 pm
@disneymom

Hi.  Lagi kong naririnig ang tungkol sa "Irregular Period."  Salamat sa question mo, napa-research ako.  Para sa iyo, ano ba ang meaning ng Irregular Period?  Isa daw kasi sa definition ng Irregular eh kung ang pagitan ng mens ay less than 21 days o more than 35 days.

Para malaman kung ano ang cycle length, at kung irregualr nga, kailangan bilangin at alamin.

Na-try mo na ba sundan ang Calendar-Based Natural Family Planning Method?

Referencess:
Mayo Clinic. Women's health. In-Depth. Menstrual cycle: What's normal, what's not (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/menstrual-cycle/MY01541/NSECTIONGROUP=2)
University of California, Davis Health Topics: Irregular Periods (http://shcs.ucdavis.edu/topics/periods.html)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on November 08, 2012, 10:41:36 pm
@KClaire

Heto, calendar.  Kung ang mga first days ng mens mo ay Sep. 28 at Oct. 31, ang latest cycle mo ay 34 Days. 

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DT_loktG7YM/UJvAWbjchNI/AAAAAAAAA2Y/iD3bRdeUeL4/s800/Sep-Oct%25202012%2520overstrike.jpg)

Before Oct. 31, magbilang tayong pabalik ng 14 days.  Sep.17ang estimated na Ovulation o Peak Day ng fertility mo.  Fertile days ay mula Sep. 13 to18.


 

Kung 34 days ka ulit next period, Sa Dec. 4 and esimated na next mens mo.  From Dec. 4,magbilang ka backwards, 14 days.  Nov. 20 ang next possible Ovulation O Peak Day mo.  Fertile ka from  Nov. 16 to 21.

Ngayong Nov. 8, safe pa.*

*
Ito ay kung 34 days ka ulit.  Sana ma-track mo lagi ang dates at observation mo, para marami tayong pagbabasehan. 
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: danel_em on November 08, 2012, 10:58:35 pm
walang trust sa idea ng calendar method ang partner ko. pano kaya un? gusto ko na tuloy makipag hiwalay dahil walang tiwala sa akin. parang ang dating shunga shunga ako :D hehe tawa nalang.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: KClaire on November 09, 2012, 08:09:31 pm
@ Daddy Jojo : Thank yuo so much po talaga. sobrang naa' appreciate ko talaga yung effort mo na i'explain saken.. :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Mommy Jazz on November 27, 2012, 05:17:34 pm
This topic is locked for pruning. Please stay on topic. This topic is exclusively about Calendar Method. Those who would recommend pills and those who wish to inquire about other methods, please post on the appropriate thread.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: toughmom moderator on November 30, 2012, 11:16:10 pm
This topic has been pruned.
Please stay on topic. Pros and cons can be discussed in an open topic as asked by the author. In an exclusive topic, deviating the subject or recommending a method or brand that's opposed to the topic is not allowed.
Ib. Special Interest Threads
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Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ChloeValkyrie on December 01, 2012, 12:21:02 am
Hi Mommies! I gave birth 5months ago pa lang. And i wish na sana di muna masundan kasi CS ako and magiging complicated if too soon ako magbuntis ulit. We haven't tried any other method but withdrawal. Eversince kasi yun na ginagawa namin, mag-2yrs na kami live in when unplanned, I got pregnant. Tsamba lang daw yun sabi ng husband ko. Pero I do trust him naman kasi he doesn't want me to take any pills kasi nga daw it might be harmful for me.

Now, I am willing to discover new info about my reproductive system. Kasi I never gave it too much importance until nanganak ako and I realized na fulfilling pero undeniably, mahirap sya.

Anyone who can give me tips and advice regarding the calendar method? Kasi atleast ito natural and mukang effective naman. help naman mommies! :) TIA
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: aldrin923 on December 01, 2012, 02:31:39 pm
HI....my gf po had her mens on november 12, 2012... irregular daw sya sabi niya... i had sex with her on the dates nov 19-23 no withdrawal,.. on the nov 26 not withdrawn,.. i started withdrawing na nov 27-29... she had experienced tiredness and masakit ang puson on nov 27-29.... is she pregnant na ba or not clear pa? need help naman po  :-[

paki email or personal message po pls ng answers di kc ako masyado active coz i'm working
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: aldrin923 on December 01, 2012, 02:35:36 pm
i used calendar method,.. her mens started november 12 and her spotting ended on 16th....  irregular daw sya sabi niya... i had sex with her on the dates nov 19-23 no withdrawal,.. on the nov 26 not withdrawn,.. i started withdrawing na nov 27-29... i was counting 14 days for her ovulation and i started counting from nov 17th so the 30th is her 14th day,.. tama po ba? she had experienced tiredness and masakit ang puson on nov 27-29.... is she pregnant na ba or not clear pa?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on December 01, 2012, 09:37:08 pm
What do you mean by saying you used Calendar Method?

Nov. 25 is Day 14 after Nov. 12. 

Nov 25 is her most fertile day in a 28-Day Cycle.  Day 14 is when you have the highest possibility of getting pregnant. Her full fertile days (if on a 28 Day Cycle) is Nov. 21 to 26.


<with corrections in boldface>
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: aldrin923 on December 02, 2012, 06:58:39 am
@ Daddy joe,..
  Naku sir lagot,... she had cramping for 2 days only and fatigue until now,... diba sign yan ng pregnancy? to count the 14 days ovulation ba is the next day after her fist day of mens is 1?  not on the last day of her mens? but shes irregular,.. she said na if this week is her week of mens (her mens is 5 days on day 4&5 spotting) the next month her mens would fall on the week after ( say nov 1-5 last month the next month will be on dec 13-17 there is a 1 week differential)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: IanAndDina on December 02, 2012, 11:27:26 am
^Kuya ang alam ko, since irreg siya, you should base your counting of days sa current mens niya, walang kinalaman muna yung next. Kaya nga yung ibang mommies dito na irreg wait muna nila na magkaron sila so they'll know their safe days, hanggat di nagkakar0n hndi pwede maglabing.labing. :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on December 02, 2012, 04:27:09 pm
I keep on encountering the word "irregular"  Para sa inyo, ano ba talaga ang ibig sabihin ng irregular?

It's not accurate to refer to a menstruation cycle as a "Monthly Period" because each month has a different set of days and a cycle length can be different on each period.

Para masabing irregular, kailangan alam mo kung ano ang mga dates ng menstruation period mo, may listahan ka nito, alam mo kung paano mag-count ng Cycle Days at kung ano-ano ang mga Cycle Lengths mo...with consultation sa isang authority on this topic (like a Pro-Life OB Gyn/Doctor)...saka mo lang maide-declare kung irregular nga.

Ang nakikita ko dito, parang pinaiisip sa atin na "irregular"  tayo...para i-endorse sa atin na mag-pills/contraceptive...palalabasin na kailangan gawing "regular"...pero ang totoo para kumita sa atin ang mga multinational contraceptive companies..

@aldrin923

Nag-compute ulit ako at ginawan ko ng illustration ang Cycle Days at actual Dates.  Dahil nga isa lang ang naibigay mong date na sure, nag-base ako sa 28 Days Cycle.  Naka boldface at red ang date of menstruation.  Naka-underline ang Fertile Days, naka-overstrike ang dates of sexual contact.

28 Days Cycle (Average)
01|02|03|04|05|06|07|08|09|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|

Nov. 12 to Next date of menstruation period
12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|01|02|03|04|05|06|07|08|09|

Ang tamang pagbibilang ng possible peak day ay pabalik.  Kaya sa isang 28-Day Cycle...magbibilang ka ng 14 days from Day 28.  You will arrive at Day 14.



I just want to make it clear that I have answered the question above for the benefit of everyone's understanding of Natural Family Planning and for the person asking to be fully informed and take responsibility.  However, I would like to state that I am very much against (1) Pre-Marital Sex, (2) getting married just because of an unwanted pregnancy, and (3) dragging the name of God and calling an unwanted pregnancy out-of-wedlock...a "blessing".  I have told this to those I exchange private messages with...please consider getting married first.  The fullest, most complete sexual expression is meant to be experienced after a man and a woman has vowed to love each other exclusively...and receive the sacrament of matrimony.  I am not imposing my personal belief to anyone.  Please, don't use what I share here about Natural Family Planning...as a Birth Control method (intending to avoid pregnancy to continue engaging in pre-marital sex or, in some cases, extramarital sex).  My contributions are intended for married couples, for parents...for families.


Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: aldrin923 on December 03, 2012, 01:35:08 pm
@ daddy joe,..
sir is it possible po ba na yung PT ay false lang kc we had PT this morning and it turned out to be negative,..
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: AkosiJanna on December 20, 2012, 10:23:14 am
im a newbie here mga sis. nag wworry lang po ako kwento ko lang po sainyo then pa advice nadin po. I had my mens last nov.20 and nagstop ng mga nov.25. Me and my bf had our do last dec.17 but accidentally the condom broke :l it happened na na ejaculate niya ng konti sa lood pero tinanggal niya din agad pero madami padin lumabas. an opo ba pwede nyo ma iadvice? HElppppppp. :( Paki explain nadin po ang calendar method
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Mommy Jazz on December 20, 2012, 05:37:11 pm
@Daddy Aldrin, may mga test kits na mabagal ang reading. I remember sa pangalawa ko, it read negative. 4 hours later I got the kit back from the trash can may 2nd line na. Some kits take 5 minutes to give the result. Some naman seconds lang. Pag masyado pang maaga to take the test , hindi pa ma pick-up ng test kit yung hCG hormone at lalabas negative kahit may nabuo na pala.


If you were to test earlier than the first day of your missed period, the result may be incorrect. It may show a negative result if your hCG levels are not yet high enough to detect the pregnancy
http://www.bellybelly.com.au/pregnancy/pregnancy-test-faqs-how-do-pregnancy-tests-work

@AkosiJanna
Maraming beses na pong inexplain ang Calendar Method on this thread. Back read nalang pls.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: preciouslara on December 21, 2012, 03:17:16 pm
super useful yung mga apps sa phone about this, atleast now easy access para malaman natin yung safe and not safe days natin...ieenter na lang yung date nung 1st day of your period and yun na,lalabas na sa calendar lahat ng info na kelangan natin malaman ;D
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: sweetpumpkin on December 22, 2012, 09:09:33 pm
Yes sis preciouslara,ako din i'm using what to expect- fertility app sa iphone... Sobrang helpful sa tulad kong makakalimutin.. :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: wakuzave on January 02, 2013, 09:00:32 am
guy i need your help like ko n sana mgkababy kami ng hubby ko pero almost mg1year n kming married until now wala p rin kming baby ano po b dpt gawin pano b malalaman kung isa sami my problem b shared naman po kayo kung my nkaexprience n rin ng ganito thanks..

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Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: imnizzygirl on January 13, 2013, 12:42:26 am
ask po kung ang first day of my menstruation is Dec 21 . .so kelan po ba ovulation ko,next menstruation,safe for not getting pregnant??salamat po
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: preciouslara on January 15, 2013, 10:41:10 pm
OT: @wakuzave if you want to know kung meron isa sa inyo ni hubby ang may problem, why not seek for professional help, go to your ob for consultation, only doctors can tell kung meron talagang problem, pero sana wala naman...minsan kasi medyo matagal talaga bago makapag conceive, yung cousin ko almost 4yrs silang married bago nakabuo, pero they have to take some medications na prescribed ng doktor nila...or baka naman hindi niyo lang matimingin yung fertile days mo kaya hindi makabuo ;) goodluck sis, try and try until you succeed
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on January 21, 2013, 11:35:23 pm
hi mga mommies! pag meron bang white mens or discharge ba yun? basta yung makikita mo sa undies mo na kulay white, ibig sabihin ba fertile?  :-\
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on January 27, 2013, 02:15:16 am
Pasensya na po kung panget / d maganda ang tanong ko.. at sorry sa paulit ulit na tanong ko at pangungulit.. :( that time kase, i'm really scared at hindi na ako makapag isip ng maayos at kung anong dapat kong gawin .. :( bago pa sabihin ni daddy jojo about sa morning after pills, nabasa / narinig ko na ang tungkol about jan .. at inaamin ko, parang eto na siguro yung sagot sa problema ko.. kaya para makacguro ako, nagtanong ako dito kung may iba pabang paraan at pasensya na kung napaka pangit ng term ng pagkakatanong ko.. :( inaamin ko, balak ko na sana uminom ng nordette pills pero bago ko gawin yun, nag search talaga ako ng nag search at may serious bad effect ito.. nag worry ako kaya hindi ko na naituloy.. :(

well, since the answer is NO iba nalang po itatanong ko daddy jojo or kung sino man
 (ok lang po ba magtanong ng ibang topic kahit hindi na related sa title na pinost ko? kung hindi po, pasensya na)
bago ko pinag isipan ang mga dapat kong itanong, binasa ko ng halos isang oras yung calendar method, & inintidi ko mabuti ang pagbabasa sa mga sagot ng mga nagtatanong .. lalong lalo na yung mga dati kong tinanong sayo daddy jojo at pati paliwanag mo.. naiintindihan ko sya at effective / nakatulong ang pinaliwanag mo sa calendar method.. ;) now eto po tanong ko .. paano ko po maicocondiser na day 1 ang unang araw ng period ko? nabasa ko kasi sa iba't ibang forum / sites hindi daw counted ang spotting, brown spot.. ang sabi daw, kapag nag bleed na dapat color red.. naalala ko po kasi nung january 4 ng gabi pag ihi q, meron sa panty liner ko na red blood.. pero light red at parang drop lang sya.. light red po ha? hindi po yung red na red katulad nung dugong dugo na talaga..at kinabukasan, ganun pa din may konted red at parang drop lang din.. (light red) kinabukasan, january 6, ayun dun na po yung malakas na malakas yung period ko.. alin po sa 3 na araw na nabanggit ko ang firsy day of mens ko? .. at eto pa po .. nabasa ko din sa iba't ibang forum / site na panu malalaman qng kelan fertile o hindi.. tulad nalang nung paliwanag mo sa calendar daddy jojo.. dati po kasi laging 25th day ang nagccmulang magkaroon ako at 11 lang ang binawas nyo dahil hindi aplicable sakin yung 14 dahil pang 28th day lang yun . at para malaman daw kung panu mo icocompute kung kelan ka safe o hindi, dapat daw, sa loob ng 6months, nililista / sinusulat kung kelan ang unan araw ng period mo .. hindi ko na po maalala ako exact date kung kelan ang unang araw ng period ko sa loob ng anim na bwan.. pero 1thing 4 sure na siguro ako, tuwing ika 26, 27 28th day, nagkakaperiod na po ako .. alin po sa tatlo na yan ang basehan ko? for example, gaya nga ng sinabi nyo da daddy jojo na pag 28th day ang period, i babawas sya sa 14 .. ganun din po ba sa 26, 27, 28?  :-\ at here's my last question po.. sinabi ko po kasi dito na yung time na nag "do" kami ni hubby, may discharge ako .. at sabi mo, pag may discharge, posibleng mabuntis nga ako .. nung january 20 po kasi, dry an dry yung loob.. as in.. at kinabukasan naman po, january 21 moring pag ihi ko, wala naman po lumalabas na mala uhog, clear strechy white kagaya ng mucus.. pero pag dating ng tanghali, ang dami lumabas sa panty liner ko na white.. ang itchura niya, thick or clumpy like cottage cheese at d pa maganda yung amoy nito .. sabi nyo po kasi sa calendar method, kapag sticky ang lumalabas, safe pa ito .. yung denedefine ko na ito, ito po ba yung sticky? at minsan kulay yellow green color niya (i think my infection ata ako) posible parin po ba akong mabuntis?  :-\
hintay ko po ang sagot nyo .. maraming salamat
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on January 27, 2013, 06:56:08 am
@¸¸.♥ кяιzzℓє ♥.¸¸

Thank you sa pagsasabi mo na nagba-backread ka  at nagbabasa ng mga sagot ko sa post mo.  Maganda ang tanong mo, heto ang na-research ko:

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Your chart starts on the first day of your period. This is the first day that you have red flow (not spotting). This is cycle day one. If your period arrives in the night or late in the evening, you can record it for the following day.
Source: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/Faqs/When-to-start-a-chart.html

Magsimula ka magbilang ng cycle mo sa first day ng menstrual flow, hindi sa spotting.  I sulat mo, o markahan sa kalendaryo ang date.  Iyon ang pinaka-importante.  Iba't iba ang number of days in a month at nagbabago ang cycle dahil sa iba't ibang factors like stress.  Magkakamali ka at hindi magiging sure kung iisipin mo lang na 25th to 28th day of the month.  Isulat mo ang date sa isang notebook o i-type mo at i-email o i-private message mo sa sarii mo.

Sa example mo, Jan. 6 ang first day ng mens mo.

Bakit ka nagsa-spotting?  Naitanong mo na ba ito sa Obsterics and Gynecology doctor?

Tungkol sa isa pang question mo.  Kung nakapag-"do" at nakapag-deposit sa loob ng Jan. 20...within 24 hours, hindi accurate mag-check ng mucus.  Kasi hindi mo masasabi kung mucus nga ba yung mao-observe mo o semen ng husband mo.  Kaya Jan. 21, unsure yon...baka semen yung lumabas sa iyo.

Kaya natin ine-establish ang cycle days mo at ginagamit ang Standard Days Method (SDM), eh para ma-pinpoint o ma-estimate kung kailan mo ie-expect ang mucus o fertile days.

At kaya natin ginagamit din ang Two-Day Method (TDM) ay para malaman kung pwede bang mag-"do" kahit na accoding sa count mo ay dapat fertile days na.  Kung both Jan.19 and 20, na-observe mo properly ang mucus mo at dry ka nga (for two days), then hindi pa nagsimula ang fertile days mo.

Aside from Jan. 21, may na-observe ka ba noong Jan. 22, 23, 24 and onwards?

Huwag mo na munang i-complicate ang observation mo ng mucus.  Ganito lang tandaan mo, dapat dry..for two days. Kung hindi dry (kahit ano pang type ng mucus yan)...fertile.  Kung kailangan mag-"do" during fertile period,just be sure na mag-withdrawal" at laging possible na mag-orgasm ang babae.

Ang dalawang pinaka-importante na gagawin mo lagi ay ang isulat ang dates ng observation mo ng mens at mucus.  At lagi kong paalala, hindi lang ikaw ang gagawa nito...kayong dalawa ng asawa mo.  Dalawa kayong responsable rito.  Patitibayin nito ang pagsasama ninyo at magkakatulungan kayong dalawa.  Iyong pag-deposit niya sa loob ay pagiging selfish yon.  Lumalabas na wala siyang pakialam.

Kung fertile ka nung time na iyon...gugustuhin mo rin na magtuloy-tuloy /mag-all-the-way kayo.  Isa kasi sa sign ng fertility ay ang mas mataas na sex drive.  Dapat ang asawang lalaki ang mas may disiplina.  Kung may penetration dapat mag-withdraw..

After na magwithdraw, dapat mag-CR muna para umihi at mag-wash ang lalaki....tapos itutuloy ang love-making hanggang sa maka-reach ng orgasm(s) ang babae.
 
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: ¸¸.♥ kyutie ♥.¸¸ on January 27, 2013, 11:48:11 am
Thanks sa quick response daddy jojo.. naging responsable naman yung hubby ko, ako lang kasi yung may kasalanan kaya nadisgrasya  :-\ .. thank you.. kahit papano naliwanagan ako .. hmmm nung 19, hindi ko maalala kung dry na dry ba ako nun.. ang sure lang ako nung 20 dry na dry talaga.. at nung 21 yung nag "do" kame.. then nung 22, 23, 24, until now, may napapansin ako na white discharge na lumalabas sakin minsan kulay yellow green sya eh .. kung posibleng buntis nga po ako, hmm... sign po ba yun? (tingin ko hindi ata kasi lumipas ang maraming bwan, meron talaga akong ganun b4 magkaroon ata basta monthly po) what i mean is kung buntis po ako, mawawala po ba ang mga white discharge na lumalabas sakin?  :-\
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Aerielle on January 27, 2013, 05:40:19 pm
hi mommies pano po ba ang calendar method??? 3weeks pa lang po kasi si baby And naglalambing na si daddy... i must say na almost everyday gusto niya. help naman po
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Mommy Jazz on January 30, 2013, 12:42:43 pm
Part of  the discussion from the topic "Is there a way to prevent pregnancy after sex?" merged with this thread.
@Aerielle, please back read as the answer to your question has been discussed on this thread many times before.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: dudey on March 14, 2013, 03:14:54 pm
hi sis,,

confuse lang ako.. my husband and i have been practicing calendar method for 5 years na at d naman pumapalya. after ng menstruation ko na do do kame without protection. e lately kc nagdownload ako nung app na MY DAYS. 24 days cycle last menstruation ko. nag do kami on the 6th. parang natakot ako pagkatingin ko fertile ako ng 2nd day kaagad. medyo paranoid lang ako mga mommies.. ask ko lang kung meron bang katulad ko na 24 days cycle.. at sana safe parin ako.. d pa kc ako ready to have another baby.. thank you mga mommies..    :) :-*
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Mrs. Anderson on March 14, 2013, 03:48:10 pm
Merged with existing topic.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on March 19, 2013, 01:20:30 pm
Hi dudey

I also got your PM and read it on the same day you sent it.  Ngayon lang ako nagkaroon ng time para mag-reply.  Dito na ako magre-reply ha, para yung iba, hopefully baka may matutunan sa exchange natin.

Here's a summary of your information:

Mar. 4 - Day 1 - first day of previous menstruation period
Mar. 9 - Day 6 - intercourse

Mar 11 - Day 8
Mar 15 - Day 12

Fertility Cycle: 24 - 25 days

Thank you for these ha.  I think this is the first time somebody provided their Fertility Cycle.  Napa-review tuloy ako ng counting and found out na may error ako ng 1 day. 

Estimated next mentruation day: Mar. 28 or 29
Mar 4 to Mar 27 (24 days cycle)
Mar 4 to Mar 28 (25 days cycle)


Anyway, since menstruation occurs about 14 days after a woman ovulates, compute your ovulation day by subtracting 14 days from your total cycle days.
24 minus 14 = Day 10
25 minus 14 = Day 11

Mar. 27 minus 14 days = Mar. 13 - Day 10 - estimated Ovulation Day (24 days cycle)
Mar. 28 minus 14 days = Mar. 14 - Day 11 - estimated Ovulation Day (25 days cycle)

Complete Fertile Days Five (5) days with mucus observed (sperm life) and about 1 day for the life of the egg:
Mar. 9 to Mar. 14 (24 days cycle)
Mar. 10 to Mar. 15 (25 days cycle)


Start na ng fertile day mo ang Mar. 9.  Ang mga safe days mo ay Mar. 4 to 8 and Mar. 16 to April 1.

About the App, My Days...kung ang sabi ay fertile ka sa Mar. 11 to Mar 15 or Day 8 to 12...it seems na naka-set yan sa 26 days cycle.  Napansin ko parang ganito ang mga lumalabas na App.  Some are for 26 to 32 day cycles (Standard Days Method) and some seem to only compute based on a 28 days cycle.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: dudey on March 20, 2013, 10:55:32 am
thank you Daddyjojo for your reply.. medyo natakot po ako d po pala ako safe.. pero i hope na d naman po ako.. upon observation po sa sarili ko.. i think po nagstart ko ma feel yung white sticky mucus nung march 13 po. then nung march 15 po i think ovulation ko.. kc po every ovulation ko lately nagkaka brown dicharge ako na medyo madame at minsan may stinge of blood. pero konti lang po yung blood. tsaka po sumasakit puson ko. after that po wala na. so kung nagovulate po ang babae may posiblidad po ba na buntis siya? thank you po..  :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on March 20, 2013, 03:18:17 pm
Hi,

Mar. 13 is Day 10 and Mar. 15, Day 12. 

Sure ka na mucus yung na-observe mo ha...walang do noong Mar. 12...so hindi yon galing sa husband mo.

May mga levels ang mucus.  Kapag sticky pa, lowest ang fertility.

Kapag may mucus, at nag-ovulate, ibig sabihin non hindi buntis.  In about 14 days after ovulation, ex. Mar. 29, you can expect menstruation.

Kapag buntis, stop ang pag-ovulate.  Ang ovulation ay yung pag-release ng egg cell.  Hindi muna maglalabas ng egg cell ang body kung may fertilized egg sa womb.

Kaya, just realized this, isang indicator na buntis nga, ay kung walang ma-observe na mucus...at di na kailangan maghintay pa na walang mens.

BTW, very good ang ginawa mong pago-observe ha.  Minsan may mga iba pang fertility or ovulation signs in some women.

Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: dudey on March 21, 2013, 09:48:40 am
Hello Daddyjojo,

thank you ulit sa pag reply. Sure po na Mucus un kc po hindi po kami ng do ng hubby ko dahil po natakot ako. :) dami ko po natutunan sa inyo. i hope na mag mens ako end of march. hehe.. next time po magiingat na ako. depende rin po pala sa mga cycles ng isang babae. Godbless Po.. :)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Mommy Jazz on May 27, 2013, 12:58:13 pm

"hindi accurate ang calendar method regarding fertile days."
Ang sine-share ko sa thread na ito ay hindi ang Rhythm o Calendar Method.  Obsolete na ang method na ito

Many would agree that Calendar Method is passe. Please refer to this link to know more about paano malaman kung safe/not fertile or unsafe?
http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,1092.90.html
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: aNgeLaLcKia on June 28, 2013, 04:15:56 pm
hello po... june 16 2013, nag karoon po ako. kailan po kaya ako fertile para po mag kababy na kami ng hubby ko. 3years na po kami nag sasama.. gustong gusto n namin nag ka baby. kaso po irreg po ang mens ko. :'(
sana po matulungan mo po ako

thanks..
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: chillerz0029 on July 14, 2013, 08:15:07 pm
good eve to all my ask lang  po ako 1year na kaming mariage ng husband ko pero until now hindi pa rin kami ngkakababy ngpacheck up naman po kami ng asawa ko ok naman po daw..ano po ba dapat ang gawin ko sana po matulungan ninyo po ako ..thanks god bless
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Mommy Jazz on July 15, 2013, 02:49:56 pm
I'm contemplating on switching to Natural Method for the main reason na gusto kong mag detox ;)
Helpful naman yung Barangay HEalth Center namin, even referred me to the family planning clinic so I can get more info about NFP. I was given leaflets and brochures on Natural Methods. Nakakatawa nga kasi komics ang dating para maintindihan ng madla.
What I want to share is, the Calendar Method is not among the choices given. Tama si Daddy Jojo, obsolete na nga ito.

@chillerz and aNgeLalcKia
please go to the link I previously posted to know when your fertile days are
http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,1092.90.html


Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: chillerz0029 on July 16, 2013, 08:15:02 pm
hellow guys help me naman kung pano b malaman kung kylan pwdeng maging fertile days ko share ko lang ang mens ko kc ganito na 1st day niya mahina talaga hindi man lang mapuno yung isang pad then for the nxt day ganun den yung png 3rd day wala n normal lang b un..wala p po akong baby almost 1yr n kami ng hubby ko pero until now wala p rin help nio naman ako kung anung dpt gwin...ngpacheck n rin kami s ob ok naman daw kami.

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Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: chillerz0029 on July 16, 2013, 08:30:33 pm
daaddy jo but d po kita maend hindi ako mkapgprivate message syo pwede po ba na i ad ninyo ako i need your help pleassssssssssse i want to talk you ............
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Firstymom&SAHM on July 20, 2013, 05:21:45 pm
Natutuwa ako dito s threand na to! 7mos c hubby nandito s pinas walang nabuo ibig sabihin tama yung ginagawa naming calendar method ibig sabihin naintindihan ko sya.thank you po :)...
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: mariann on July 20, 2013, 09:09:45 pm
hi, sissies!

i haven't took time to backread.  in fact, i've posted here before which i didn't have time to review.  i wasn't even able to visit the forum for so long. anyway, i just took this time to share with you regarding this method of contraception.

hubby and i have been practicing calendar method for more than 10 years.  last time, we were strict with 7 days after mens and 7 days before mens.  this time, having uploaded an app on my phone (My Days), we have clearly confirmed my cycle days.  so we made an allowance that 10 days after mens and 10 days before mens are still safe for us.  unfortunately, it was a mistake!

hubby and i made contact on the 10th day after my mens, boom!!! alas, i'm pregnant again after 6 years.

the reason is that there could be some changes on my ovulation period due to stress and change in schedules this june, or hubby's sperm were that aggressive since he stopped drinking alcoholic drinks for 2 weeks.

hope this would be an enlightenment to some of you...
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: J0 on July 23, 2013, 08:43:15 am
@chillerz0029
I have read your message on this thread on the day  you posted but I just haven't been able to reply.  Naging busy ako for the past two weeks.

@mariann
Thank you for sharing.  I have been trying to convince a number of people here that the apps are not reliable.  One needs to know their Cycle Lenghts.  Those who have 26 to 32 Day Cycle Lengths can use Standard Days Method (SDM)...a calendar-based method.  In SDM safe days are from Day 1 to Day 7, Day 20 to Day 26...32. The Fertile Days for a 26-32 day cycle are from Day 8 to 19.  This was why your 7 days before and 7 days after mens worked for you.  It was a simplified way of understanding Standard Days Method. 

When you changed to "10 days before mens", that's Day 17 for a 26 Day Cycle...Day 19 for a 28 Day Cycle...which are Fertile Days and very close to one's Ovulation or Peak Day.  You are within 2 Days where you may have released an egg.  There is also a high possibility that you will have a girl on this pregnancy.  Take Care and God bless you and your family.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Andy Morgan on January 08, 2017, 10:01:45 am
Hello po.. pa tulong naman po.. irregular kasi ako. kung di ako puwede mag calendar method ano pa bang puwede namin e control ng bf ko? aside sa withdrawal? di kasi namin type yung condom at pills.. gusto ng bf ko na iputok sa loob ;D kaso worried kami di pa kasi kami ready mag ka baby  :(
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Eeraah Montefalco on February 27, 2017, 12:15:34 am
Hello po ask ko lang po if may possibility ba na buntis ako? Kasi nung feb 24 and 25 nag do kami ng boyfriend ko, halos katatapos lang din ng period ko nun. Feb. 15 ako dinatnan pero di ko na maalala kung kelan yung last day. Lagi ko lang kasi naaalala first day ng period ko. Medyo nagtataka din ako kasi ngayong feb 26 nag white discharge ako. Bago ako datnan alam ko nag wawhite discharge ako after ng transparent na discharge mga ilang araw white na then ilang araw nanaman period ko na. May possibility ba na buntis ako? Medyo makati na din yung ano ko di ko alam kung bakit. Every nag do kami ng boyfriend ko always withdrawal lang kaya alam kong safe kami. Pero this time nababahala na ako eh. Eto yung mga past month kung kelan ako dinatnan.
June 23
July 20
August 18
September 16
October 15
November 14
December 12
January 14
February 15
Sana may makasagot.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Elle Mac on February 27, 2017, 11:09:03 am
Hi. Using calendar method for me is safe. Pero pag withdrawal im not sure. Bawal n kasi sa akin ang mga contraceptives like pill injection etc. Lumalabas mga sakit ko. Kaya nag stop na ko pag dito asawa ko. Base on your mentrual cycle regular ka 28days cycle ka. If your 1st day of mens is feb 15 safe ka from that day up to 21. If na do kayo ng bf nyo feb 24? Sabi mo withdrawal kaya im not sure if pregnant ka. Pero starting feb 22 di na po kayo safe. My possibility na pregnant po kayo.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: love mendoza on April 02, 2017, 08:59:23 am
Hi mga sis, can someone teach how to use calendar method, medyo nakalimutan ko po kase yung mga dates ng period ko kaya pag nag DL ako ng mga calendar method applications di siya accurate, well last na nagkaron ako nga sis feb 22 or 21 mga ganun then up to now still wala pa din ako mens, and nag DO kami ni BF april 1 nasa fertile pa stage na po kaya ako nun?  can someone help me hahaha medyo worried ako kase di kami safe dalawa eh :(
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Shaira may Polintan on June 26, 2017, 08:36:36 am
Ask ko lang po kung safe po ang irregular menstruation gusto ko po gamitin calendar method kaso po irregular pwdi ku parin po ba gmitin any method na tan kahit irregular
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Jerrhice Naras on September 19, 2017, 10:17:57 pm
Ano po ba cycle ko? Last aug 25 ako ngkaron dis sept 19 naman? Kelan po ako fertile? At kelan kami puwede mgsex ng hubby ko?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Jerrhice Naras on September 20, 2017, 05:59:45 pm
Gsto ko lang po itanong....bkt po di prprho ang date ng mens ko? Last month po 25 ngyn po 19? Ano po cycle ko?kelan po ako fertle
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Mommy Jazz on September 21, 2017, 04:14:58 pm
@Jerrhince
Nagiiba-iba talaga ang length ng cycle. Our body has its own natural cycle na hindi sumusunod sa calendaryo kaya we need to know kung ilang ang araw ng shortest cycle at longest cycle natin. Hindi sapat na matandaan yung ilang araw ng huling cycle mo lang. Kung matatandaan mo as far as the past 6 months, the better. It's not enough na maging basehan ng fertile days mo ang 1 cycle lang o ang average. Kung ang cycle mo ay 26 days ang shortest at 32 days ang longest, you can practice the Standard Days Method (SDM) as explained on Method#3 of this article:
http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/health/your-health/5-natural-birth-control-methods-their-levels-of-effectiveness


@ Shaira, how irregular? If you mean paiba-iba ang bilang ng cycle pero within 26-32 days pa rin, you can still practive the SDM (as explained above). Pero kung talagang mas maiksi o mas mahaba sa 26-32, you can practice the Billings Method (also called the Mucus Method) as explained here.
http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/pregnancy/getting-pregnant/the-billings-ovulation-method-the-natural-way-to-achieve-or-postpone-pregnancy/page/1


What worked for me is the BBT (Basal Body Temperature). BBT is not easy to understand. I need to have a Family Planning Counselor to explain to me, plus, I need to make my own research din. It is sad na sa gov't clinics, they promote the contraceptives when the RH bill states that women will be educated on the options. Medyo kulang ang pag push nila on educating the public on Natural forms of Family Planning leading the majority to think that contraceptives are the first option.





Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Aiden Clyde on August 11, 2018, 12:59:01 pm
Hi Mommy Jazz,

gudafternoon po! tanong ko lang po regarding NFP, nanganak po ako last April 9,2018 then nagkamens po ako ng July 12 then last mens ko po nitong August 3-8(pahabol) kelan po ba nag safe & unsafe ko? Thanks po😊
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: gret gaspar on August 20, 2018, 02:40:05 pm
hi mga mommies, asked ko lang po im using calendar methods, im a single mom, and my bf po sa ngayon,last naming ng make love nakalagay sa calendar ko medium chance of pregnant, pero medyo worry tlaga ako sa ganun.gusto ko sanang mag pill ngayon pwede pa kaya un?hindi ba ko mabubuntis?please help po, any suggestion po,
thanks
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Mommy Jazz on August 21, 2018, 12:49:58 pm
Mommy Gret and Aiden, you can check other signs of fertility and ovulation to know if you're safe or not. App can be your guide but since iba-iba ang pangangatawan natin, hindi ito accurately para sa lahat. You should still check your body signs as mentioned here:
(https://images.summitmedia-digital.com/smartpar/images/2018/08/20/ovulation-aug2018.jpg)
Click this link:
https://www.smartparenting.com.ph/pregnancy/getting-pregnant/how-to-make-a-baby-when-to-know-you-are-ovulating-a00041-20180820?ref=parentchat

If you start pills somewhere in the middle of your cycle, you still need to abstain for 7 days.

Natural Family Planning may not be easy for starters. It requires planning, counting and observing body signs. Pero there are benefits not enjoyed by pill users.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Michelle Calades on February 28, 2019, 07:23:26 pm
Need an advice i am worried my last mens is jan24 so expected feb24 dadating dalaw q ulit but it was not coming that day then feb25 may contact po may positively po ba ba mabuntis ako kc till now wala prn po thanks po in advance
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Zeed Zeed on September 26, 2019, 03:36:31 am
Hi po...ask ko lang po bakit ang sv ng iba 7days simula ng regla ay safe...8-12 days naman ai hindi safe..pero sa calendar method apps ai safe ang 8days simula ng regla...ano po ba talaga??kc po sa pang 8days simula ng regla ko may nanyri po smin...imposible bang mabuntis po ako kahit withdrawal??salamat po sa magrereply.😘
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Zeed Zeed on September 26, 2019, 03:40:08 am
Halimbawa po..SEPT 7 SIMULA NG REGLA KO TAS MAY NANYARI SAMIN NG SEPT 14 (pang8days po)...
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Parentchat Admin on September 26, 2019, 09:49:12 am
@Zeed Zeed
 Ang pangangatawan ng babae ay magkakaiba. Ang araw ng safe days sa iba ay maaaring hindi tugma sa pangangatawan mo kaya't mabuting gumawa ng sariling pagbibilang. Makakatulong ang apps at magiging mas accurate ito kung ima-marka mo din ang iba pang sintomas ng cycle mo tulad ng mucous consistency and color, sintomas ng PMS, pagkaganang kumain at iba pa.

 Kung ang pagbibilang lang ng mga araw ang pagba-basehan, kailangan malaman ang haba ng pagreregla sa loob ng 6 hanggang 12 na buwan, hindi lamang ang araw ng huling regla. Sundin ang mga hakbang na nakasaad dito: Click  HERE
 Alamin Dito ang Paraan Kung Paano Malaman Kung Safe o Hindi Ka Fertile
(https://images.summitmedia-digital.com/smartpar/images/2019/01/05/fertile-period-ovulation.jpg) (https://www.smartparenting.com.ph/health/your-health/paano-malaman-kung-safe-not-fertile-a1810-20190105?ref=parentchat)
Title: Ask lang kung mabubuntis kapag 5 or 6 days lang period ko
Post by: Anna jessah Garcia on October 01, 2019, 10:39:28 pm
Nagkaroon ako ng sept 5 tpos ntpos mga 9 or 10
Then nakipagtalik nung sept 17 walang gmit na condom , mbbuntis bko nun
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Parentchat Admin on October 03, 2019, 09:35:22 am
@Anna
Maari kang mabuntis kung 27 days ang cycle mo. Para malaman kung kailan pwedeng mabuntis ang babae base sa kanilang menstrual cycle, basahin ito:
How to Make a Baby: When to Know You Are Ovulating
(https://images.summitmedia-digital.com/smartpar/images/2018/08/20/ovulation-aug2018.jpg) (https://www.smartparenting.com.ph/pregnancy/getting-pregnant/how-to-make-a-baby-when-to-know-you-are-ovulating-a00041-20180820?ref=parentchat)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Margie Garcia on January 20, 2020, 06:16:21 pm
My menstruation is always on 30th of the month and the 1 to 2nd weeks of this month ill go to my ob asking for help to getting pregnant but my first checkup my ob told me to have contact that date and i have a small egg cells that why im fertile on 10th of this month  then followup check up the 2nd week then the 2nd followup checkup my ob told me my eggcells make it large than last week she told me its goodnews and she gave a again the dates we need to contact of my husband and now i want to know if my eggcell get large if its possible to get pregnant? Than you i hope you understand
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Parentchat Admin on January 20, 2020, 09:51:07 pm
Hello Margie! Hope you will find your answer in this article.
Click HERE
How To Track Ovulation And Find Your Fertile Window If You're Trying For A Baby
(https://images.summitmedia-digital.com/smartpar/images/2019/12/17/ovulation-period.jpg) (https://www.smartparenting.com.ph/pregnancy/getting-pregnant/ovulation-period-and-fertile-window-a00228-20191217?ref=parentchat)
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Queen Adeline Berja on December 16, 2020, 12:26:50 am
Hi mga mommies! I've been using trust pills last na gamit ko is nov. 28 then nov. 29 hindi na ko naka-take then nov. 30 start na ng period ko so I decided na i-stop then may nangyari samin ng hubby ko may possibility ba na mabuntis ako? Thank you.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Parentchat Admin on December 17, 2020, 02:47:17 pm
@Queen, naubos niyo po ba yung pack?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Queen Adeline Berja on December 19, 2020, 11:57:57 am
@ParentChat Admin may natira po na 3 to 4pcs siguro pero yung color brown nalang po.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Parentchat Admin on December 19, 2020, 01:23:28 pm
Wala na pong active ingredient yung last 7 na brown pills. Iron po iyon. Kung ipinagpatuloy ninyo ang tamang paginom ng pills (bagong pack matapos ang last brown pill) continuous ang pagiging safe niyo. Kung gusto niyo i-delay ang pagbuntis niyo at ayaw niyo na mag pills, better find a different method of birth control na. Maybe natural form of birth control will work well with you. Alamin niyo po yung body indicators ninyo na magbibigay ng signs kung kailan kayo fertile (maaaring mabuntis) o hindi fertile at iwasan ang pagtalik sa mga araw na fertile ka kung ayaw mong mabuntis. I won't suggest ovulation calculator yet kasi kaka off mo pa lang sa pills at hindi pa natin alam ang bilang ng araw ng natural cycle mo.

Moderator's note:
Community members can share references, their related experiences and feedback on products and services. Online parenting groups can be comforting and helpful, but they CANNOT replace medical advice (https://www.smartparenting.com.ph/pregnancy/labor-and-childbirth/free-birth-45-weeks-a00041-20190722?ref=parentchat). For inquiries on health and medical concerns, please get professional advice from a doctor or a healthcare provider.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Queen Adeline Berja on December 19, 2020, 06:11:09 pm
@Parentchat Admin, so may possibility po na mabuntis ako? Ready na po kasi kami for 2nd baby.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Parentchat Admin on December 21, 2020, 11:28:20 am
Yes @Queen, possible na mabuntis ka pero kung gaano kalaki o ka-slim yung chance, I can't say. Ikaw ang kailangan gumawa ng sarili mong calculation base sa ovulation signs ng katawan mo at length ng cycle mo as mentioned here:
8 Reliable Signs That Tell You When You Are Ovulating or Fertile
(https://images.summitmedia-digital.com/smartpar/images/2019/07/09/primary-and-secondary-signs-of-ovulation.jpg) (https://www.smartparenting.com.ph/pregnancy/getting-pregnant/ovulation-symptoms-a00041-20190710-lfrm?ref=parentchat)
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Kung gusto niyo na magkababy, try mo combination ng BBT (checking your body temperature daily) and Billings (checking your vaginal discharge) para malaman kung kailan mataas ang chance niyo magka baby.
How to Make a Baby: When to Know You Are Ovulating
(https://images.summitmedia-digital.com/smartpar/images/2018/08/20/ovulation-aug2018.jpg) (https://www.smartparenting.com.ph/pregnancy/getting-pregnant/how-to-make-a-baby-when-to-know-you-are-ovulating-a00041-20180820?ref=parentchat)
PHOTO BY ISTOCK

Moderator's note:
Community members can share references, their related experiences and feedback on products and services. Online parenting groups can be comforting and helpful, but they CANNOT replace medical advice (https://www.smartparenting.com.ph/pregnancy/labor-and-childbirth/free-birth-45-weeks-a00041-20190722?ref=parentchat). For inquiries on health and medical concerns, please get professional advice from a doctor or a healthcare provider.
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Queen Adeline Berja on December 27, 2020, 01:19:58 pm
Hello po! Kelan po kaya ako pwede magtake ng pregnancy test?
Title: Re: Calendar-based Methods
Post by: Parentchat Admin on December 28, 2020, 11:24:09 am
Hello Queen. Maaaring mag-pregnancy test anim na araw pagkatapos na hindi dumating ang regla ayon dito:
Delayed ang Iyong Regla
(https://images.summitmedia-digital.com/smartpar/images/2019/08/31/delayed-period.jpg) (http://smartparenting.com.ph/pregnancy/getting-pregnant/sintomas-ng-pagbubuntis-sa-pang-apat-na-linggo-delayed-na-ang-pagdating-ng-iyong-regla-a00041-a1849-20190901-lfrm?ref=parentchat)
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