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Natural Family Planning sounds like a hard project
« on: October 09, 2012, 11:09:45 am »

I'm ending my pregnancy soon, (actually, just days away) and I don't want to use again alternative family planning for several reasons:

1. though it balances my hormones I feel sick of using pills

2. i miss having period when im using DMPA

3. the love making without these contraceptives makes us more connected

The problem is i don't know how, or rather we don't know any method of NFP, Please help us.


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Re: Natural Family Planning sounds like a hard project
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2012, 12:42:03 pm »

Hi,

Yes, it's time for you and your husband to be truly free!

You don't deserve to be drugged with synthetic chemicals and be sick...while the contraceptive manufacturers profit from your money.

You deserve to be loved...in sickness...for your husband to be with you and share the natural pains of being a woman...in your fertility, ovulation and menstruation.

You deserve to be loved...in health...for you and your husband to have the complete experience of love making.

And with your new freedom, you will discover and re-discover the passion and intensity of being human...body and spirit...and you can achieve the fullest sexual expression towards each other!



Natural Family Planning is empowering!

You will get to know more about your body and you will be able to decide

There are several methods...I am aware of about eight to ten.  You may try one of the easiest yet highly accurate...the Two-Day Method (TDM)

Every morning, upon waking, getting up from bed and walking to the bathroom, one simply tries to notice the feeling of any secretion.  Once seated in the bathroom, the secretion maybe observed on the underwear.  The husband may help in determining this presence of secretion.

If it has been observed to be dry in the morning, in another time of the day and for two days...a couple can decide that its not a fertile day.  They can fully express their love and passion towards each other without the fear that what they do will result in another pregnancy.

If there's a presence of any secretion, specifically cervical mucus that resermbles raw egg white, then the couple can regard it as a fertile day.  They can explore creative yet equally complete expressions of their love and intimacy...but will have in mind that the conventional way, where sperm gets deposited inside the vagina...will result to pregnancy.

A new study, revealing the absense of live sperms in the pre-ejaculatory fluid now support the effectivity of what has been regarded as the Withdrawal Method.


 
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Re: Natural Family Planning sounds like a hard project
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2012, 05:32:08 pm »

Wow! thanks daddy Jojo. I learned a lot lalo na yung sa pills. ganun pala yun kaya mas malaki yung chance ne hindi mag buntis. Hindi naman kasi napapaliwanag ng mabuti yung ginagawa ng pills sa katawan ng babae once you take it. I just gave birth and as much as possible mas prefer ko ang NFP. Natatakot kasi ako sa side effects ng pills. Very helpful po talga yung post niyo. Thanks.
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Hi, please allow me to share here another way of determining if one is fertile or not.  May mga nag-che-check ng mucus internally, using a finger or two.  Pag-check ng mucus pagkagising sa umaga, pagpunta sa CR, at pag-upo sa bowl...pwedeng ma-check na rin ang position at feel ng cervix.  Helpful ito, lalo na kung parang di madaling ma-detect kung may mucus discharge

Pag madaling maabot at firm to the touch...safe day.  Kung mahirap maabot at soft siya...fertile...pwede mabuntis.



Share ko na rin dito ang discussion sa FB Page na Natural Family Planning - CLOSED group.  Karamihan foreign ang mga members dito at iba ang kultura sa atin.  Some are more comfortable with their bodies at okay lang ang mag-check ng mucus internally.

Allie 4:20am Mar 16
Does anyone have any helpful tips for checking the cervix? I have my last class for learning STM tonight, and even though I've been trying on and off for the last 2 months, I still find it really hard to check my cervix. I know it's not critical if I don't check it, but I would like to able to know I can if I need to.

Julie  4:51am Mar 16
I check my cervical fluid internally so I feel my cervix then. Really easy for me just reach in there. :) It is interesting to feel how it changes. NEVER knew that before.

Allie 7:57am Mar 16
Mostly my problem is just trying to reach it, but I think trying these recommendations will help. Thanks so much, ladies!

Marisa 8:36am Mar 16
I find it easiest to find my cervix while standing up, one foot propped on the bathtub. I use my left hand (for some reason this works better, even though I'm right handed) and bend and twist slightly, reach up and in. Most days I can reach far enough back to feel all the way around my cervix, with a swishing motion, if you will. Too bad this would be a really awkward and inappropriate video to post, because it's such a hard thing to explain, lol!

Shawn 9:08am Mar 16
Kinda odd for a man to reply to this. But my wife and I are instructors and she too had a hard time at first. It is easiest to find when you are in phase 3. So wait until then to check for it, once you find it there, then it will be easier for you to feel it change throughout your cycle.

Jo Jo   11:31am Mar 16
☼ Hi everyone. Thank you for having this thread. I'm currently preparing to give another short talk on Natural Family Planning. This time, for only four low-income couples working in a Mall here in the Philippines. Hi Mary Clare, with what you shared here, I'm now more interested in this topic of determining fertility patterns through changes in the cervix. In the talk I'm giving, I only discuss the basics on observing fertility and using the Two-Day Method (TDM). Hi Shawn, I'm glad to know that you and your wife are instructors.

Bria 12:54pm Mar 16
At the beginning it's easiest to find at it's lowest position, so when you are infertile. I find it easiest when I'm seated on the toilet, pelvis tucked under a bit. When it is low I find it right away but during my fertile time I can barely reach it. Also, it helps to know what you're looking for. It is like the stem end of a pear with the stem removed. And for me, I had a difficult time figuring out hard and soft. I did notice that it felt puffy sometimes and finally figured out that was the "soft" indicator. If it helps you to use your own words to describe what you are feeling, do that for a few cycles until you learn the pattern of your body.

Note: STM - SymptoThermal Method - A Natural Family Planning Method using daily records of mucus discharge and other signs, combined with body temperature to determine fertility and infertilility.


Sana pwedeng magkaroon ng thread dito na Natural Family Planning.  Hindi ako nag-start ng bago dahil nga related itong thread na ito na "Natural Family Planning sounds like a hard project"
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Natural Family Planning Methods: Intro., Sites/Links, Onine Courses
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2013, 07:05:30 am »

What IS NFP?
By Kristen, Sandy and 2 others
Natural Family Planning - CLOSED group [Facebook Page]


Natural Family Planning or, as many simply call it, "NFP" is a holistic and healthy way of planning a family. Essentially, it is the ability to monitor fertility and to modify behaviors according to the intention of either achieving or avoiding pregnancy. - Marquette University http://nfpstudy.marquette.edu/

NFP FAQ - what it is, how it works, etc:
http://www.njnfp.org/whatisnfp/faq.php

A comparison of different methods of NFP:
http://www.catholicmom.com/nfp_methods.pdf

IMPORTANT NOTICE:

NFP highlights the dual nature of the marital embrace: it is both unitive and procreative. Because of this nature, some subjects may be discussed within this group that are of a more delicate and adult nature."

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Natural Family Planning LINKS

NFP Related Links
Online Charting Resources
Fertility Awareness Links

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NFP Related Links
American Life League (pro-life site, also with pro-NFP resources available): http://www.all.org/

Biblical and historical support for NFP:
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/contraception.html

Living the Sacrament - community for Catholic NFP women.
http://www.livingthesacrament.com/

Catholic Fertility Clinic (Pope Paul VI Institute):
http://www.popepaulvi.com/

CatholiCity Links on NFP: http://www.catholicity.com/links/143/
NAPRO: http://www.naprotechnology.com/

NFP METHODS:

BILLINGS Ovulation Method: http://www.thebillingsovulationmethod.org
CREIGHTON Model http://www.creightonmodel.com/ and Creighton Fertility Care
http://www.fertilitycare.org/
MARQUETTE http://nfpstudy.marquette.edu/
SERENA http://www.serena.ca/
SYMPTO-THERMAL at Couple to Couple League: http://www.ccli.org/

CyclePro Charting: http://ccli.org/software

NFP Blogs:
http://www.OurNFPBlog.com
http://www.nfpworks.wordpress.com/

And a diocesan work page:
http://www.madisondiocese.org/nfp

Facebook Group for NFP instructors:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=14276321990
 
NFP Message Board (there is a 24 hour waiting period once you register before you can start posting)
http://forums.delphiforums.com/nfptalk

NFP and More: http://www.nfpandmore.org/index.shtml

NFP for Men:
Catholic Fathers http://www.dads.org/
True Knights- Defending the Family, Defending the Faith: http://www.trueknights.org/
 National Fellowship of Catholic Men  http://nfcm.net

NFP Outreach and related sites:
http://www.nfpoutreach.org/
http://www.nfpoutreach.org/doc/CANFF%20&%20NFP%20OUtreach.pdf
http://www.nfpoutreach.org/doc/nfp-outreach_0208PP2.pdf

NFP-related Wiki Articles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_family_planning
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theology_of_the_Body
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanae_Vitae

NFP Videos:
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=v56Z1DIMI58
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=ti9ZBGRf9qc
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=G0UomDP6ExM
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=u3ch8rdg9HE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqtx0IX8X7Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN8j2ILe_Gc

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=KwjGcPi-Z_4
ONE MORE SOUL http://www.omsoul.com/
And their list of contraceptive side-effects:
http://www.omsoul.com/contraception-side-effects.php

Physicians For Life - articles and information from the medical community on issues regarding family planning and life issues.
http://www.physiciansforlife.org/

Sacred Space (women's health, fertility, pelvic massage, NFP):
http://www.sacredspacenaturopathy.com/

Silent Voices (Protestant Pro-Life and NFP site):
http://www.silentvoices.org/home.html

Sweeter Than Honey (Protestant NFP site):
http://www.sweeterthanhoney.org/

THEOLOGY OF THE BODY online sources:
http://www.jp2institute.org/desc47.html
http://www.tobinstitute.org/default.asp
http://www.theologyofthebody.net/
http://www.theologyofthebody.com/store.asp
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Theology-of-the-Body-Institute/10870334084

US Conference of Catholic Bishops (NFP): http://www.nccbuscc.org/prolife/issues/nfp/cathteach.shtml

USCCB Marriage Building:
http://www.foryourmarriage.org/
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Online Charting Resources
http://go28days.com/
http://www.nfpcharting.com/
http://www.fertilitycircle.com/FertilityCircle/Forms/home.aspx
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/
http://ccli.org/software/index.php

FAM (Fertility Awareness Method) Links

FAM is not NFP. FAM advocates the use of a barrier method during the fertile period, while NFP advocates abstinence during the fertile period.

We are including the following link for secular reference for those of us "defending" NFP to family members and non-Catholics. Also, if you have low temperatures, the software has temperature choices down to 95.0

Taking Charge of Your Fertility: http://ovusoft.com/
Group Thread regarding FAM:
http://edinboro.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2229998645&topic=2728

Facebook group for FAM users:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5264947876


NFP Methods (in alphabetical order)
By Shawna and Jamie

Billings Ovulation Method - Mucus Only Developed by doctors and used by millions of women around the world. Women are taught to observe sensation at the vulva while going about normal daily activities and to note any visible mucus present while visiting the bathroom, there is no need to touch the mucus. Women use their own vocabulary to describe observations, as each woman's fertility is unique. 4 simple rules can be used at any stage of a woman's reproductive life.  99% effectiveness for avoiding conception has been verified in multiple clinical trials. Instruction and private follow up from an accredited instructor strongly recommended.

International website: www.thebillingsovulationmethod.org
US website: www.boma-usa.org
Online course:www.learnnfponline.org
Online charting: www.nfpcharting.com
App: nfpcharting



Boston Cross-Check Method
"The Cross Check method is based on the observation and interpretation of changes in cervical mucus, basal body temperature and includes hormonal monitoring with the Clearplan Fertility Monitor to determine the fertile and infertile phases of the menstrual cycle. This methodology is based on the work of various scientists including Billings, Doering, Roetzer , Vollman and Fehring.

Archdiocese of Boston Model - Small group or private instruction with private follow-up."
Website: www.bostoncatholic.org/Offices-And-Services/Office-Detail.aspx?id=11760&pid=480

Couple to Couple League Sympto Thermal Method
Couples learn to monitor 3 signs of fertility: cervical mucus, basal body temperature, and the position of the cervix (optional). In addition to the Sympto Thermal Method, classes also include basic Catholic theology. Home study course and charting software available. Charting app in development! Supplemental classes for Post Partum and Perimenopause available as well.
Website: www.ccli.org



Creighton Model - Mucus Only
Developed by Dr. Thomas Hilgers. Women are taught to make precise examinations of cervical mucus, using folded toilet paper. Observations are made before and after urinating, as well as before and after bathing, showering or swimming. Women are given a list of descriptions to choose from in order to classify the mucus observation. A variety of rules apply in different situations. Instruction includes a series of private consultations with a FertilityCare Instructor or Practitioner. Charting app in development!
Website: www.fertilitycare.org
Website: http://www.creightonmodel.com/
Website: http://www.naprotechnology.com/
Website: http://www.drhilgers.com/
International Website: http://www.fertilitycare.com.au
Website: http://www.unleashingthepower.info/

Doering System - Temperature Only
Women are taught to predict fertility by subtracting 7 days from the earliest thermal shift recorded in the previous 6-12 cycles. Effective if cycles are regular, may require prolonged abstinence in longer cycles. Does not account for the possibility of early ovulation.

Family of the Americas Ovulation Method - Mucus Only
An adaptation of the Billings Ovulation Method. Cervical is mucus is examined on toilet paper. Charting kits available through the website, an instructor list can be obtained by emailling: familyplanning@yahoo.net
Website: www.familyplanning.net/index.php

Marshall System - Temperature Only
Women record waking basal temperatures and abstain from menstruation until a thermal shift is confirmed. Abstinence may be prolonged in long cycles, post partum, or in peri-menopause.

Marquette Model
Utilizes the ClearBlue Easy Fertility Monitor, a device used at home which measures hormone levels in urine to estimate the beginning and end of fertility in a women's menstrual cycle. The monitor can be used in conjunction with observations of cervical mucus, basal body temperature, or other biological indicators of fertility. Cycles must be between 22-42 days. Includes breastfeeding protocols. Instruction from a Marquette Model teacher strongly encouraged.
Website: http://nfp.marquette.edu/



Serena Sympto Thermal Method
Daily observation of the woman's basal body temperature, cervical mucus signs, changes in the cervix, and periovulatory symptoms are made and recorded on a chart.
Website: www.serena.ca

Sympto Pro Sympto Thermal Method (Northwest Family Services)
Teaches women to observe changes in cervical mucus, basal temperature, and cervix. Instruction in a class setting or by way of the online course.
Website: www.nwfs.org/couples-a-singles/natural-family-planning.html
 
Taking Charge of Your Fertility
*this can be used as a form of NFP when abstinence is practiced on days of fertility. When barriers or other contraceptive practices are incorporated, it is the Fertility Awareness Method, not a form of Natural Family Planning. This method is primarily self taught. Charting software, online charting, and app available.
Website: www.ovusoft.com

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Re: Natural Family Planning sounds like a hard project
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2014, 10:47:26 pm »

I have tried Basal Body Temp for 5 months pero feeling ko hindi accurate. Siguro I need to get a thermometer specially made for BBT (I was told meron daw sa Mercury Drug).
Why I think it's not helpful kasi and daming factors that can effect the changes of my body temp
-changes on the room temp (cold/hot mornings)
-puyat
-late na paggising
Hindi na bale yung daily check ng temp, madali lang yon. I keep my thermometer under my pillow and my cel (with app) to track it. It's the result that's confusing.
For the past 5 months, hindi match and rise ng body temp ko sa dates na fertile ako.
For now, what I find effective is following the chart posted by Daddy JO combined with mucous method.
Here's the link to the chart.
http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php/topic,1092.msg887425.html#msg887425


So far here are the advantages and disadvantages I like to share.

Disadvantage:
- the "no-go" period is longer. You can shorten this naman if you combine at least 2 types natural method to determine your fertile days.
- Will not work if either partner is not cooperative nor willing to resort to other means if the urge sets in on your fertile days.
- There's a feeling of uncertainty even if you are sure it happened on safe days. Sanayan lang siguro.
- By nature, mas malakas ang urge ni Misis pag fertile.

Advantage
- mas natural ang response ng body mo for intimacy, something not fully felt and enjoyed when you're under contraceptive.
- You can feel your body "detox" from contraceptive, a confusing but a good feeling.
- Respect is developed if you say "no".
- You get educated on the different natural methods, hindi ka mukhang tan** kung pano ang tamang pag bilang.
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NFP Awareness Week - JULY 20 - JULY 26, 2014
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2014, 05:56:14 pm »

National NFP Awareness Week - JULY 20 - JULY 26, 2014
2014 theme:
Natural Family Planning:
It's Worth It.
Join the Revolution!


"Celebrate and reverence God's vision of human sexuality."
Discover Natural Family Planning



Natural Family Planning Awareness Week is a national educational campaign.  The Natural Family Planning Program of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops develops a poster each year with basic supportive materials.  It is the individual dioceses however, that offer a variety of educational formats in the local church to focus attention on Natural Family Planning methods and Church teachings which support their use in marriage.

The dates of Natural Family Planning Awareness Week highlight the anniversary of the papal encyclical Humanae Vitae (July 25) which articulates Catholic beliefs about human sexuality, conjugal love and responsible parenthood.  The dates also mark the feast of Saints Joachim and Anne (July 26), the parents of the Blessed Mother.

Source: http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/marriage-and-family/natural-family-planning/awareness-week/index.cfm

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Re: Natural Family Planning sounds like a hard project
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2014, 11:25:27 pm »

me seminar ba Daddy Jo?
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Re: Natural Family Planning sounds like a hard project
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2014, 05:19:51 pm »

Hi chardonnay,

Sorry, wala.  Naghanap pa ako ngayon ng maise-share na schedule sa iyo pero wala akong mahanap.  Itong post ko sa itaas, sa US yan.  Ganyan sila ka-organized doon.  Tatawag ka lang sa office ng Catholic Diocese doon...makakahanap ka ng schedule.  Meron pang online.

Thank you ha, for giving me an idea.  Maghahanap nga ako ng mga nago-offer ng seminar o training tapos ise-share ko dito.

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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2014, 11:02:22 pm »

^ Thanks Daddy Jo! Sana nga magkaroon or baka pwede ikaw na lang mag conduct hehe. Mas maganda kasi isang live discussion na para makapagtaong na din. ;) cheers!
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Re: Natural Family Planning sounds like a hard project
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2014, 06:07:44 am »

Hi chardonnay,

Nagko-conduct talaga ako ng seminar on Natural Family Planning sa group.  Yung simplified pero combined para mas effective.  This year nga lang, wala pa.  Mas preferred ko nga sana eh yung di ko personal na kilala.  Kasi medyo private at maselan ang topic.  Parang awkward kung mga familiar at madalas mong mami-meet ang participants. 

Okay na option itong online.  Pwedeng maging anonymous.  Marami na rin akong naka-private message, email at chat.  There had been times na 2 new persons every week.  Hindi ko na sinasabi dito sa board na pwede yun...parang personalized discussion, kasi baka dumami ng husto at di ko na ma-entertain.   They come and go...but new ones take their place.  Marami nga, zero post dito...nagmember lang ng SP para makapag-private message.

If I'm sent a YM or Gmail chat using private message, naibibigay ko ang accounts ko...nagiging mas interactive and immediate ang sharing.

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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2014, 07:31:24 pm »

Count Me In Sir Jojo, if there's any seminar that you will be conducted...

Remember me po? hehe.. I am one of those mommies na nag pm sayo regarding sa NFP.

And its my 8th month na since pinakilala mo sakin/samin ni hubby ang NFP( although ako lang ang nag lecture).
hehe. And i can say na Its an EYE OPENER for all of us mommies lalo na pag natutunan natin ang different methods. actually marami. pero may mas madali and simplest ways. dont hesitate na magtanong kay daddy J and very accomodating naman po sya...

KUDOS daddy J.

I'll be re visiting this thread.. thanks
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2014, 08:34:54 pm »

Hi SP Moms  :)

I want to share my natural family planning method, more than 1 year ko na itong ginagamit, kaya lang applicable lang sa regular ang period. Ang website na ito ang katulong ko para malaman kung kailan safe at hindi safe.

http://www.divine.ca/en/health/period-predictor-and-fertility-calendar/c_320/

1) dapat alam niyo ang first day ng period, cycle niyo at kung ilang araw tumagal. Sa akin ang cycle ko ay 32 days.



2)

Ganyan ang lalabas na result, yung titinganan po ay yung ovulation , yan po ang unsafe days. Pero nag aadjust po ako ng araw, ginagawa kong total of 2 weeks ang unsafe days, so ang unsafe days ko po ay from Nov. 30 - Dec. 13, 2014, the rest of the days are safe. Nag-adjust ako ng araw para siguradong hindi papalya.

3) Mas maganda kung ililista niyo ang first day ng period at ang unsafe days para hindi po tayo malilito.

4) Mas mabuti kung mapag-uusapan niyo to ng partner niyo at mapaintindi sa kanya.

Madami na sa atin ang may internet kaya hindi na ito mahirap gawin.
Sana makatulong. Thanks :)





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Re: Natural Family Planning sounds like a hard project
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2018, 11:27:10 pm »

Sharing DOH's Family Planning resources with links to info (in pdf) on NFP methods.
http://www.healthpromo.doh.gov.ph/resources---family-planning.html
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