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Lalaki naman i-birth control
« on: July 27, 2009, 12:44:28 pm »

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Di na ba talaga ma-control at kailangan mag-artificial birth control.  O sige game, lalaki naman.  Bakit babae ang iinom ng pill o magi-injectible?

Bakit, hindi, di ba pagiging Real Man yon, sabi nga sa Red Horse Beer.

Sana maglabas din ng mga Chemicals and other Contraceptives na pang-lalaki.

Siguro naman sa dami ng profit ng mga contraceptive manufacturer kaya na nilang gumawa ng injectible or pill para gawing incapacitated and sperm. Kung stop na, sige vasectomy na agad.

Pag lalaki ang magte-take ng pill o mag-iinject, kung may danger man sa tao, isa lang ang in-danger.

Pag babae kasi pati mga innocent unborn children nagbubuwis ng buhay...para lang sa isang bagay na hindi makontrol.

Tama na please, marami nang buhay ang nawala.

Madali na ngayon makakuha ng impormasyon para malaman na ang contraceptives ay isang uri ng abortion.  Sinisira na Chemical na nasa contraceptive ang walls ng womb kaya ang fertilized egg (na isang nang buhay na tao) ay hindi maka-implant...kaya nalalaglag.

Matuto rin sana tayong kumilatis ng impormasyon, kung totoo o may bahid ng commertialization.

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Re: Lalaki naman i-birth control
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2009, 01:05:40 pm »


what are the CONS of Vasectomy?
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Re: Lalaki naman i-birth control
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2009, 01:34:09 pm »

SAna nga meron for guys no
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Re: Lalaki naman i-birth control
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2009, 04:05:24 pm »

Sana nga nd hindi puro babae ang nahihirapan ;D

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Re: Lalaki naman i-birth control
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2009, 04:41:16 pm »

pwede naman mag "jacket" si daddy di ba...  ;)
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Re: Lalaki naman i-birth control
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2009, 05:13:00 pm »

pwede naman mag "jacket" si daddy di ba...  ;)

ew. ayaw na ayaw q "jacket" sis..

ayan tuloy..................

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Re: Lalaki naman i-birth control
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2009, 05:31:22 pm »

pwede naman mag "jacket" si daddy di ba...  ;)

ew. ayaw na ayaw q "jacket" sis..

ayan tuloy..................


oo nga parang wala lang..  ;D
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Re: Lalaki naman i-birth control
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2009, 09:11:03 am »

May Chemical din ang "Jacket" like spermicide and yung "flavor"...imagine these Chemicals on the most sensitive, most delicate part of a woman's body.  Bakit ba kailangan nito? dahil ba we are being made to think (by their manufacturers) that we need it?

Harang sa bonding, sa intimacy...kung iisipin pa ang paggamit nito. 

All we need to do is understand and appreciate our bodies more and know how they work...when is the time that we may get pregnant...and that's just about 4 to 6 days in a fertility period....the rest of those days are okay.  Having the monthly period means that it's the end of that fertility period.  The egg has not been fertilized by a sperm so all the preparation to conceive life, the blood that collected in the walls of the womb come out.  I'll post some more short tips on safe days in a new thread.

 


pwede naman mag "jacket" si daddy di ba...  ;)

ew. ayaw na ayaw q "jacket" sis..

ayan tuloy..................


oo nga parang wala lang..  ;D

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Re: Lalaki naman i-birth control
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2009, 10:22:44 am »

Daddy Jojo,, naaaliw naman ako sa yo coz you know all these stuff. Yeah, generally, women have 4 to 6 days fertility period. But I'm still scared na baka masundan baby ko coz I know someone from our office who got pregnant around the days when she was not supposed to be fertile. And I know that female sperms are resilient. So, if you'll make love a few days before ovulation...say within 2 to 3 days....don't you think it's possible for the female sperms to live up to ovulations days. Needless to say, there is a possibility for any of those female sperms to unite with the eggs...and thus a baby in the mommy's womb?

May Chemical din ang "Jacket" like spermicide and yung "flavor"...imagine these Chemicals on the most sensitive, most delicate part of a woman's body.  Bakit ba kailangan nito? dahil ba we are being made to think (by their manufacturers) that we need it?

Harang sa bonding, sa intimacy...kung iisipin pa ang paggamit nito. 

All we need to do is understand and appreciate our bodies more and know how they work...when is the time that we may get pregnant...and that's just about 4 to 6 days in a fertility period....the rest of those days are okay.  Having the monthly period means that it's the end of that fertility period.  The egg has not been fertilized by a sperm so all the preparation to conceive life, the blood that collected in the walls of the womb come out.  I'll post some more short tips on safe days in a new thread.
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Re: Lalaki naman i-birth control
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2009, 01:48:54 pm »

Hi Mommy Cutie,

I like this topic.  It was cool way back in my 4th Year High school when I had a conversation like this with my female classmates, trying to be objective and not be affected despite being an adolescent like them with fired up hormones.  This was after our Health Education teacher (female, public school) discussed Sex ed. with some malicious unnecessary details.

My mother worked as a nursing aide and she had these books which were fully illustrated.  Anyway, it seemed more worthwhile for me instead of opening pornographic magazines like other teenagers. 

Let's bullet on how we get pregnant.  This is for everyone ha.  Sort of like a review

  • Males are always fertile
    Females are only fertile on a few days

Female Fertile Days
- When the time for the female to release an egg (Ovulation) becomes near, her body prepares for it
- Inside her womb and at her cervix (womb's opening), mucus will form (this is not the lubrication ha)
- This mucus will become slippery

Peak Day
Our body is such a wonderful creation, it's really made to participate in the creation process.  During the fertile days, females become very sensitive and easily stimulated.  Their breast will feel full as if they're swelling.

- When she releases her egg, it will travel through her Fallopian Tube
- The egg will be like a bride with an outer layer like gown with flowing trail
- On the wall of the womb, blood will collect and build up

- When a male deposits sperms inside a female particularly at the opening of the womb, they will swim on the mucus, enter the womb and race to meet the egg inside
- the sperms need the mucus to be slippery enough and not too acidic to survive the journey towards the egg
- when one sperm reaches the egg, the outer layer and the egg itself will close
- the rest of the sperms, millions of them, will perish

- when an egg does not meet a sperm immediately, it will rest on the wall of the womb (where blood has been thickening)

- when this egg does get fertilized, a new life begins and the womb will nourish this life

- if the egg doesn't meet a sperm, the wall of blood will rupture and will come out of the body as mensturation

Okay, how do we not get pregnant.

1. If the sperm is not deposited inside
2. If there's no slippery mucus

What does artificial contraceptive do that makes it abort a life?
Please refer to this other post:
http://www.smartparenting.com.ph/parentchat/index.php?topic=4073.0

To finally answer your question:

It's not the sperm (male) nor the egg (female) that is resilient.

The key is the mucus.  The mucus can protect the sperm for up 2 days (some claim up to 4 days) if the egg hasn't arrived yet. The weaker sperm may even die earlier.* 

Without the slippery type of mucus...if it's sticky or there's no mucus at all (dry days), the sperm could not survive the acidic environment of the womb.  No conception will occur.

Cheers,


Dad jojo



*The weaker sperms are those with more male genes, they swim faster but will not stand the acid.  The "stronger" sperms are those with more female genes, the swim slower but survive longer.  So, if a couple wants to have a baby boy, they should aim for the day nearest to the ovulation day.  If they want a girl, they could aim farther like 1 to 2 days before this peak day.  (We wanted a girl, we got one.  That's enough for us.  Natural Family Planning na)



 

Daddy Jojo,, naaaliw naman ako sa yo coz you know all these stuff. Yeah, generally, women have 4 to 6 days fertility period. But I'm still scared na baka masundan baby ko coz I know someone from our office who got pregnant around the days when she was not supposed to be fertile. And I know that female sperms are resilient. So, if you'll make love a few days before ovulation...say within 2 to 3 days....don't you think it's possible for the female sperms to live up to ovulations days. Needless to say, there is a possibility for any of those female sperms to unite with the eggs...and thus a baby in the mommy's womb?

May Chemical din ang "Jacket" like spermicide and yung "flavor"...imagine these Chemicals on the most sensitive, most delicate part of a woman's body.  Bakit ba kailangan nito? dahil ba we are being made to think (by their manufacturers) that we need it?

Harang sa bonding, sa intimacy...kung iisipin pa ang paggamit nito. 

All we need to do is understand and appreciate our bodies more and know how they work...when is the time that we may get pregnant...and that's just about 4 to 6 days in a fertility period....the rest of those days are okay.  Having the monthly period means that it's the end of that fertility period.  The egg has not been fertilized by a sperm so all the preparation to conceive life, the blood that collected in the walls of the womb come out.  I'll post some more short tips on safe days in a new thread.
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Re: Lalaki naman i-birth control
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2009, 06:47:33 pm »

vasectomy sana..ayaw naman ni hubby.. >:(
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2009, 08:10:43 pm »

daddy jo nag work po ba yung fam planning nyo? first time pa lang kasi na magsasama na kami ni hubby,
Big NO tlaga ako sa contraceptives..
Im reading all the info I could get about natural fam planning
But my problem is daming negative feedbacks dito sa akin na hindi daw nag work sa kanila. sometimes It would be a prob tlaga pag irreg menstruation mo
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Re: Lalaki naman i-birth control
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2009, 01:13:19 pm »

There is ongoing research into a male "pill". I'm not though what the status is on that. While Daddy Jojo does make very compelling and educated points on natural family planning, practitioners do have to have discipline to have it work. And this is the main reason why natural family planning is hard to implement even on a personal level, no two couples are in the same situation. I bet that this type of birth control is especially difficult to execute if one of the spouses works overseas and gets to come home on very rare occasions. The urge to have (a lot of) sex will probably be very great and will probably fall on those times that the woman is fertile. I agree with Daddy Jojo that it would foster a level of intimacy and love between the couple because using this method requires both parties to be very committed to it.

More on the topic, I do agree that there should be more research done for contraceptives on the male side. Be it natural or otherwise.
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Re: Lalaki naman i-birth control
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2009, 07:51:07 am »

Very effective ang family planning namin.  We know when it's fertile and non-fertile days.  Fertile time means slippery mucus is present, very sensitive ang feeling, cervix is lower.  Non-fertile days are dry and there are not much remarkable signs present.  Non-fertile days are our free-to-express-the-wholeness-of-our-love-unlimited days  ;D, while fertile days are our bonding days...where we respond to fertility with more touch, affection, embraces, kisses :) ...well, we still end up doing it all the way...but we remain conscious what day it is.  Natural Family Planning Methods: Billings or Cervical Mucus Method, 2-Day Method

Bonding
Whether it's fertile or non-fertile, we don't do it all the way inside.  We both prefer na outside.  There had been non-fertile days that one of us or both get so excited and would want it inside...often that would be me, but I ask her first and only do it if she agrees.  If she doesn't like it, okay lang.  For me there is a disadvantage pa nga pag inside...it will be too slippery and there's a great loss of sensation.  Somehow, we both enjoy it all the way outside...may bonus rounds pa  :D Note: Withdrawal is not a standard Natural Family Planning Method

We enjoyed the first 6 months of our marriage.  We lived alone in a spacious house that we rented.  It was one storey but elevated.  Sunlight illuminated the house through the glass windows even if they and the curtains are closed.  The nearest relative is one barangay away  :).  We were like Adam and Eve in paradise.  Parang tree of life ang ref...ready if you both get hungry na kahit madaling araw  ;).

Deciding to have a child
We were both quite religious so we were quite prayerful.  I was praying for a more stable job to prepare to raise a family (with the intersession of St. Joseph).

On the sixth month after we got married, I got a stable job so we decided to have a child.  My wife prayed to the Blessed Virgin Mary.  I prayed to the Holy Family. 

Timing and Achieving Pregnancy
We consulted with an OB-Gyn who recommended that we now focus on our fertile days.  So we observed "delaying of gratification" kaya naipon lahat on the fertile days.  We both wanted to have a girl, so first day na may signs of fertility pa lang, start na kami.  After two days  :), we gradually concluded everything na  :D. Note: Shettle's Gender Selection Method

We know our conception day, May 9, 2002.  A month later, positive.

(Pregnancy, how were both actively involved, and preparing for a new member of the family starting at conception...are off topic even if I want to share them, so in another thread, upon request na lang)

A few months more, ultrasound revealed we have a girl.

We wanted one child, a girl, we got her so we stopped having children but continue to enjoy the wholeness of our love...in an all-natural way.  Our daughter is now 6 years old and both of us, her father and mother remain actively involved in raising her.
 

daddy jo nag work po ba yung fam planning nyo? first time pa lang kasi na magsasama na kami ni hubby,
Big NO tlaga ako sa contraceptives..
Im reading all the info I could get about natural fam planning
But my problem is daming negative feedbacks dito sa akin na hindi daw nag work sa kanila. sometimes It would be a prob tlaga pag irreg menstruation mo

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Re: Lalaki naman i-birth control
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2009, 08:05:59 am »

Don't be too affected by negative feedbacks.  Totoo nga bang they used natural Family Planning.  Was it done properly.  I can't understand how Natural Family Planning would not work.

One could not get pregnant if the following are not present:
Sperm - when you don't do it all the way (there's no sperm in Pre-ejaculatory Fluid, check research)
Slippery Mucus - if it's been dry for two days, the sperm will not survive the acidity inside
Blood - if you just had your period, there is no blood inside to nourish a fertilized egg

Check www.fertilityfriend.com for real, actual use of charting fertility to achieve pregnancy and when it doesn't happen




daddy jo nag work po ba yung fam planning nyo? first time pa lang kasi na magsasama na kami ni hubby,
Big NO tlaga ako sa contraceptives..
Im reading all the info I could get about natural fam planning
But my problem is daming negative feedbacks dito sa akin na hindi daw nag work sa kanila. sometimes It would be a prob tlaga pag irreg menstruation mo
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